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New guide to burning XGD3 games (with ImgBurn 2.5.6.0)
#76
03 Jan 2012 @ 4:47
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Originally posted by marshy312:You need LiteOn Ihas X24 B (where X=1,2,3,4,5,6) burner and that should be flashed with burner Max FW.
thanks funksoulb i managed to flash my xbox but now i have the problem of fitting 8.7 gb game to 8.5 gb disk is there any way round this i.e maybe shirink it a bit i dont knw lol thanks for ur help just hope you can point me in right direction for this problem
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#77
03 Jan 2012 @ 4:56
Originally posted by marshy312:
thanks funksoulb i managed to flash my xbox but now i have the problem of fitting 8.7 gb game to 8.5 gb disk is there any way round this i.e maybe shirink it a bit i dont knw lol thanks for ur help just hope you can point me in right direction for this problem
Have a look here mate: -
http://forums.afterdawn.com/t.cfm/f-152...ed_here-913418/
Click HERE for up to date 360 tutorials that may help you!
#78
03 Jan 2012 @ 5:53
Originally posted by marshy312:are you serious bro its the first post on this thread of this post?
thanks funksoulb i managed to flash my xbox but now i have the problem of fitting 8.7 gb game to 8.5 gb disk is there any way round this i.e maybe shirink it a bit i dont knw lol thanks for ur help just hope you can point me in right direction for this problem
...post first .... read second..... :) (i thought i was bad)
Originally posted by funksoulb:
4. Burning XGD2 and XGD3 games WITHOUT Burner Max.
XGD2 - If you have done everything I've mentioned above, insert your blank disc, double-click the .dvd file which will launch ImgBurn, then press the burn button. Wait for the disc to burn and verify (verification is optional, but it's a good idea to do it). Job done.
XGD3 - If you have done everything I've mentioned above, insert your blank disc, double-click the .dvd file which will launch ImgBurn, then press the burn button. As XGD3 ISOs are too large to fit on a dual-layer disc, an extra window will open. Choose the option to "Write to end of disc (Truncate)" and hit OK. Wait for the disc to burn and verify. Job done.
As only around 97% of an XGD3 ISO will fit on the disc if you're not using a Burner Max burner, this is not the optimal method for burning XGD3 games. Certain games (Forza 4, for example) feature new checks that will fail if you burn the game using this method, so it's recommended to get a Burner Max-compatible drive and burn using the instructions in steps 5 and 6.
5. Burning XGD2 and XGD3 games WITH Burner Max.
XGD2 - Use the same procedure as mentioned for XGD2 games in step 4.
XGD3 - You can burn the games as you would burn XGD2 games, although pay attention to the recommended media and burn settings in step 6 of this guide. There is no longer any need to truncate the ISO as 100% of it will fit on the disc and ImgBurn will no longer give you this option at the start of the burn once your burner is flashed with Burner Max.
6. Recommended media and burn settings for Burner Max burns.
Verbatim is the recommended media. You can try other media, but your mileage may vary.
Recommended settings for Verbatim media: -
MKM-001-00 discs (rated at 2.4X) - Burn at 2.4X.
MKM-003-00 discs (rated at 8X) - Burn at 2.4X, or at 4X with OPC turned on in ImgBurn (Tools - Settings... - Write (tab) - Place check mark next to "Perform OPC Before Write").
My personal recommended settings for Verbatim MKM-003-00 discs (based on Lightning UK's settings): -
Fire up EEPROM Utility, make sure you select the correct burner if you own more than one, then click on the Options tab. Clear the OPC history and power cycle the drive (just reboot your PC) if you've used other settings previously that haven't worked for you, then enable the following options: -
Smart Burn
Hyper Tuning
Do NOT enable Over Speed Writing or Online Hyper Tuning.
That only needs to be done once, then you can burn MKM-003-00 discs at 4X with OPC off and you should find that the results are excellent. These settings may also improve burn quality with other media so experiment with them and see how it goes.
Happy new Year funksoulb ..... :)
#79
03 Jan 2012 @ 6:31
#80
04 Jan 2012 @ 19:16
People useing MKM-001 disc should check out these settings:
http://forums.afterdawn.com/t.cfm/f-152/burning_mkm-001_at_4x-921136/
What i did was clear all the settings, cleared the OPC history and rebooted. i then enabled these settings:
FHT:on, OHT:off, OS:on, SB:on, 4x speed
After buring and useing KProbe these are the results i got:
PI max = 14 AVG = 0.69
PIF max = 3 AVG = 0.07
http://forums.afterdawn.com/t.cfm/f-152/burning_mkm-001_at_4x-921136/
What i did was clear all the settings, cleared the OPC history and rebooted. i then enabled these settings:
FHT:on, OHT:off, OS:on, SB:on, 4x speed
After buring and useing KProbe these are the results i got:
PI max = 14 AVG = 0.69
PIF max = 3 AVG = 0.07
#81
06 Jan 2012 @ 15:18
Originally posted by funksoulb:If you update a ihas 624 it gets a driver called GL29. Dont use this as it wont allow the burning of discs for XGD3. If anybody updates to that firmware you have to downgrade and then upgrade to the version before the GL29 driver. Its sorted now, ive burnt a few discs and they seem ok. Thanks
What do you mean by "Burner Max and the firmware"? Burner Max IS the firmware. It replaces the stock firmware of the burner, the same as LT+ 3.0 replaces the stock firmware of a 360 drive.
EDIT - Sorry, I'm not being very helpful. Perhaps you could list the exact steps you took to flash your drive with Burner Max, and also expand on what you mean when you say "it's not working".
#82
07 Jan 2012 @ 5:25
That's odd, cos I have a 624 that I updated to GL29 and it worked fine. The version of Burner Max for the 624 is actually based on GL29 which is why it appears as "GL29" in KProbe: -
As long as it's working for you and you can burn games, it's all good though.
As long as it's working for you and you can burn games, it's all good though.
Click HERE for up to date 360 tutorials that may help you!
#84
07 Jan 2012 @ 14:35
Originally posted by keeks750:
I'm confused. The only way to burn new games now is to get a lite on drive and flash it to burner max firmware? I'm sure my laptop isn't compatible and I can't flash burner max to it(its a dell studio)correct? thanks for helping.
It's not the only way to burn new games, but it's the only safe way. Some games have new checks which will fail if you truncate the burn.
The 6 burners that can be used for Burner Max are all full sized burners. If you only have a laptop, you could get an external caddy like these: -
http://www.microcenter.com/single_produ...duct_id=0310131
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817392031
Or a much cheaper option is to buy a bunch of cables like this: -
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/USB-2-0-SATA-...=item4a985cd9a8
Click HERE for up to date 360 tutorials that may help you!
#85
07 Jan 2012 @ 14:52
Thanks. I have a desktop I can use to burn the games. I'll just buy a lite on and install in the desktop. Thanks for the quick reply!
#86
08 Jan 2012 @ 23:38
Originally posted by funksoulb:http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/USB-2-0-SATA-...=item4a985cd9a8 works with lite on drives. :)
Originally posted by keeks750:
I'm confused. The only way to burn new games now is to get a lite on drive and flash it to burner max firmware? I'm sure my laptop isn't compatible and I can't flash burner max to it(its a dell studio)correct? thanks for helping.
It's not the only way to burn new games, but it's the only safe way. Some games have new checks which will fail if you truncate the burn.
The 6 burners that can be used for Burner Max are all full sized burners. If you only have a laptop, you could get an external caddy like these: -
http://www.microcenter.com/single_produ...duct_id=0310131
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817392031
Or a much cheaper option is to buy a bunch of cables like this: -
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/USB-2-0-SATA-...=item4a985cd9a8
#87
10 Jan 2012 @ 11:15
Originally posted by xd3nis3x:Hi, I'm getting that same problem, how did you fix it?
hiya
just to let you know i sorted my problem out
cheers
#89
15 Jan 2012 @ 19:44
I think I have a problem? I bought the iHAS 124 B and flashed it with burner max following all of the instructions. I bought Verbatim 2.4x disks made in Singapore. Patched the file and burned in ImgBurn. Everything wen t great. Then I tried it on my XBXox. It seems that the disk reads in my console, but when I tried to install it on the HDD it couldn't get past 24% so I figured I had an issue and came back and started reading more. I installed kprobe and I can't even get it to start the test. It's like it will not even read my disk. The only thing I have found that might be a problem is I am running in RAID. I was told that the flash to burner max might fail....but it went off without a hitch so I thought I was in the clear. My blank disk even shows in the drive as 8.13 so I figured that was good enough confirmation that flashed properly. Would running in RAID be what is preventing a proper burn? Would that make it burn only 24% and quit? I need help
#90
01 Feb 2012 @ 7:25
ajennice
Junior Member
you mentioned an "eeprom" utility. What is that... and where do I get it?
Thanks
Thanks
#91
01 Feb 2012 @ 7:32
Originally posted by ajennice:
you mentioned an "eeprom" utility. What is that... and where do I get it?
Thanks
You don't say what you want it for, but this thread should help: -
http://forums.afterdawn.com/t.cfm/f-152...eatures-915138/
Click HERE for up to date 360 tutorials that may help you!
#92
01 Feb 2012 @ 17:07
ajennice
Junior Member
Originally posted by funksoulb:The original post had a line about using the EEPROM utility. Just getting all the things togeher before trying to do these new games.
Originally posted by ajennice:
you mentioned an "eeprom" utility. What is that... and where do I get it?
Thanks
You don't say what you want it for, but this thread should help: -
http://forums.afterdawn.com/t.cfm/f-152...eatures-915138/
#95
16 Feb 2012 @ 14:06
Great guide! With your suggestions I've been able to burn and verify XDG3 games with an iHas 224 and MKM-003 dvd's! Thanks you all, friends!
#96
02 Mar 2012 @ 4:59
Hi everyone,
First of all, I'd like to thank everyone who has contributed to help me, and all who had questions about this. This thread was really helpful! Thank you.
Second, I'd like to know if there is a way to know which xgd3 games have those checks you were talking about (like forza4). I have burnt xgd3 games with no problem, using the truncate method. I have burnt LotR war in the north; and Dark Souls. But I am now attempting to burn Kingdoms of Amalur and it won't work. The 360 recognizes the game, as the game's graphics (a fat golden and bald boy with an axe) appear in the menu along with the game's name. I can install the game, but it won't play. I've already wasted a number of verbatims, using different methods and I always get the same result. Could it be because of those checks you mentioned?
Third, someone also said that LG burners might pose a problem. I own a LG burner. What kind of problems am I potentially looking at?
Finally, if indeed KoA doesn't burn correctly because of those checks, is there anyone who has encountered the same problem with other games and made a list of some sort? It would be helpful to know in advance what games have extra checks in them.
Thanks in advance to any response that anyone here may give.
Cheers
First of all, I'd like to thank everyone who has contributed to help me, and all who had questions about this. This thread was really helpful! Thank you.
Second, I'd like to know if there is a way to know which xgd3 games have those checks you were talking about (like forza4). I have burnt xgd3 games with no problem, using the truncate method. I have burnt LotR war in the north; and Dark Souls. But I am now attempting to burn Kingdoms of Amalur and it won't work. The 360 recognizes the game, as the game's graphics (a fat golden and bald boy with an axe) appear in the menu along with the game's name. I can install the game, but it won't play. I've already wasted a number of verbatims, using different methods and I always get the same result. Could it be because of those checks you mentioned?
Third, someone also said that LG burners might pose a problem. I own a LG burner. What kind of problems am I potentially looking at?
Finally, if indeed KoA doesn't burn correctly because of those checks, is there anyone who has encountered the same problem with other games and made a list of some sort? It would be helpful to know in advance what games have extra checks in them.
Thanks in advance to any response that anyone here may give.
Cheers
#97
03 Mar 2012 @ 7:05
Originally posted by NoMustard:I have that problem also.. I have a stupid question .. do I have to mod my box too or just use the ihas124b to create a copy and play in any xbox360.. also can I rent a game rip it and burn it that way or is that a pain.. I have been messing with trying to get this to make useable copies for bout 6 months.. I wasted about 60 bux in discs that dont work,,,, I would bail on this but Im into it a coulpe hunderd bux.. burning using ihas124b with verbatum discs.. and I dont get any error prompts durring the burn
After i burn it says play but the game art never shows if i click play game the screen become black and returns me back to the xbox menu.. I even followed the new clonecd instructions and it did the same thing
#98
04 Mar 2012 @ 22:48
I have a quick question about Imgburn and the layerbreaks for XGD3 vs XGD2.
Usually after I've popped in a disk and I've uploaded the ISO via the DVD file the layerbreak appears in Imgburn like so:
DVD±R DL Boundary Information:
L0 Data Zone Capacity: 2,133,520
Changeable: Yes
Am I correct in my understanding that that is the layerbreak information that Imgburn is going to use when it burns the disk?
The reason I'm asking is because that number is the layerbreak for an XGD3 ISO, however lately I was trying to burn an XGD2 ISO which has a layerbreak of 1913760. Unfortunately when I load the DVD file for the XGD2 ISO the above Boundary Information doesn't change, it stays at 2,133,520. I've checked the DVD file and it has the proper XGD2 layerbreak info.
I'm pretty certain that this number used to change based on the layerbreak information that is written in the ISO's DVD file.
Has it always worked like this? Am I going crazy? Even when I go into the options and force Imgburn's layerbreak from Optimal to forced 1913760, the information in the Boundary Information doesn't change.
Am I simply confused, is the Boundary Information not the layerbreak info taken from the DVD file, or does Imgburn simply not update its interface but it will still use the correct layerbreak anyway, or is my Imgburn acting wonky?
I am using Imgburn version 2.5.6.0. I'd really like to know if anybody knows anything about this, that way I can better understand whether or not I'm doing something wrong and what exactly that might be.
In the meantime I didn't want to waste a DL DVD just to prove myself wrong. So I decided to use CloneCD to burn the XGD2 ISO. With CloneCD I'm able to see the proper layerbreak information when I load the XGD2 ISO from the DVD file. Still, maybe somebody can set me straight about Imgburn.
Thanks in advance :)
Usually after I've popped in a disk and I've uploaded the ISO via the DVD file the layerbreak appears in Imgburn like so:
DVD±R DL Boundary Information:
L0 Data Zone Capacity: 2,133,520
Changeable: Yes
Am I correct in my understanding that that is the layerbreak information that Imgburn is going to use when it burns the disk?
The reason I'm asking is because that number is the layerbreak for an XGD3 ISO, however lately I was trying to burn an XGD2 ISO which has a layerbreak of 1913760. Unfortunately when I load the DVD file for the XGD2 ISO the above Boundary Information doesn't change, it stays at 2,133,520. I've checked the DVD file and it has the proper XGD2 layerbreak info.
I'm pretty certain that this number used to change based on the layerbreak information that is written in the ISO's DVD file.
Has it always worked like this? Am I going crazy? Even when I go into the options and force Imgburn's layerbreak from Optimal to forced 1913760, the information in the Boundary Information doesn't change.
Am I simply confused, is the Boundary Information not the layerbreak info taken from the DVD file, or does Imgburn simply not update its interface but it will still use the correct layerbreak anyway, or is my Imgburn acting wonky?
I am using Imgburn version 2.5.6.0. I'd really like to know if anybody knows anything about this, that way I can better understand whether or not I'm doing something wrong and what exactly that might be.
In the meantime I didn't want to waste a DL DVD just to prove myself wrong. So I decided to use CloneCD to burn the XGD2 ISO. With CloneCD I'm able to see the proper layerbreak information when I load the XGD2 ISO from the DVD file. Still, maybe somebody can set me straight about Imgburn.
Thanks in advance :)
#99
05 Mar 2012 @ 15:24
Are you sure you're not looking at the info for the last burned disc?
If the layerbreak is set to "Calculate Optimal" under Tools - Settings - Write, then ImgBurn will use the layerbreak in the .DVD file and if a .DVD file does not exist it will calculate the optimal layerbreak based on the disc capacity and size of the image you're burning.
If you have set a manual layerbreak under Tools - Setttings - Write, then ImgBurn will use that regardless, which is why it's not a particularly good idea given that there are now 2 different layerbreaks for 360 games so it's better to leave it on "Calculate Optimal" and use a .DVD file.
If the layerbreak is set to "Calculate Optimal" under Tools - Settings - Write, then ImgBurn will use the layerbreak in the .DVD file and if a .DVD file does not exist it will calculate the optimal layerbreak based on the disc capacity and size of the image you're burning.
If you have set a manual layerbreak under Tools - Setttings - Write, then ImgBurn will use that regardless, which is why it's not a particularly good idea given that there are now 2 different layerbreaks for 360 games so it's better to leave it on "Calculate Optimal" and use a .DVD file.
Click HERE for up to date 360 tutorials that may help you!
#100
17 Apr 2012 @ 23:02
Originally posted by xd3nis3x:how did you solved your problem? please let me know as im facing the same problem.. When i try to play the disc, its says "The disc is not supported" or something like that..
hiya
just to let you know i sorted my problem out
cheers
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