I used the latest free version of dvd rebuilder, avisynth, and hcenc to re-encode one of my dvds. I had the settings at best and only get the english audio and subtitles. I want to keep the extras so I did not remove any of them. For the most part, everything went well, but I noticed that a couple of scenes came out looking pretty bad. Because of this, I decided to see what the resulting video would look like from dvdshrink. Although the entire movie is slightly less quality, the same scenes do not look as bad as they did with dvd rebuilder. I have attached photos of both to show you what I am talking about. I know that dvd rebuilder is supposed to provide much better results, and I can see that throughout most of the movie, but I can't use it if scenes will continue to come out as they did. Does anyone have any suggestions as to how I could fix this problem, or need anymore information to help me out? DVD RB: DVD Shrink:
DVD Rebuilder is indeed vastly superior to DVD Shrink. Yes we need a lot more info, for instance the relevant entry from the Rebuilder logfile which is Rebuilder.log in Rebuilder's work folder
How large was the original file? I believe there are no settings on the free DVD-RB version, except for 'Normal' or 'Best' modes, which you've already did. "Sometimes" you can get better quality out of DVD-RB/HC if the compressed/reduced rate is lesser than 70%, but sometimes it can turned out to be a disaster - like how you had it. Regarding DVD Shrink (and some folks here find it hard to believe): There is a trick to achieving better results, if you're compressing a large file; choose the 'Maximum Smoothness" option and the video WILL come out crystal-clear, and at most times superior to DVD Rebuilder's. I certainly wouldn't keep the result from the first pic, that is full-proof, no ifs, ands or buts, and there shouldn't be any arguments against it. You'd be a fool to keep that one.
Here is the entry from the log file: - Detected ANGLE and/or INTERLEAVING on source. [00:29:01] One Click encoding activated... ----------------- [00:29:02] Phase I, PREPARATION started. - VTS_01: 3,283,063 sectors. -- ANGLE and/or INTERLEAVING is present. -- Scanning and writing .D2V file -- Processed 223,569 frames. -- Building .AVS and .ECL files - VTS_06: 77,935 sectors. -- Scanning and writing .D2V file -- Processed 7,181 frames. -- Building .AVS and .ECL files - VTS_09: 49,633 sectors. -- Scanning and writing .D2V file -- Processed 4,428 frames. -- Building .AVS and .ECL files - VTS_10: 54,250 sectors. -- Scanning and writing .D2V file -- Processed 5,083 frames. -- Building .AVS and .ECL files - VTS_11: 333,674 sectors. -- Scanning and writing .D2V file -- Processed 38,034 frames. -- Building .AVS and .ECL files - VTS_12: 159,147 sectors. -- Scanning and writing .D2V file -- Processed 14,753 frames. -- Building .AVS and .ECL files - Reduction Level for DVD-5: 11.5% - Overall Bitrate : 600Kbs - Space for Video : 430,368KB - HIGH/LOW/AVERAGE Cell Bitrates: 624/502/600 Kbs [00:33:35] Phase I, PREPARATION completed in 4 minutes. 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[01:14:23] Phase III, REBUILD started. - Copying IFO, BUP, and unaltered files... - Processing VTS_01 - Reading/processing TMAP table... - Rebuilding segment 0 VOBID: 1 CELLID: 1 - Rebuilding segment 1 VOBID: 1 CELLID: 2 - Updating NAVPACKS for VOBID_01 - Rebuilding ILVU Area VOBID: 2 CELLID: 1 - Rebuilding ILVU Area VOBID: 3 CELLID: 1 - Rebuilding ILVU Area VOBID: 2 CELLID: 2 - Rebuilding ILVU Area VOBID: 3 CELLID: 2 - Rebuilding ILVU Area VOBID: 2 CELLID: 3 - Rebuilding ILVU Area VOBID: 3 CELLID: 3 - Rebuilding ILVU Area VOBID: 2 CELLID: 4 - Rebuilding ILVU Area VOBID: 3 CELLID: 4 - Rebuilding ILVU Area VOBID: 2 CELLID: 5 - Rebuilding ILVU Area VOBID: 3 CELLID: 5 - Rebuilding ILVU Area VOBID: 2 CELLID: 6 - Rebuilding ILVU Area VOBID: 3 CELLID: 6 - Rebuilding segment 2 VOBID: 4 CELLID: 1 - Rebuilding segment 3 VOBID: 4 CELLID: 2 - Rebuilding segment 4 VOBID: 4 CELLID: 3 - Rebuilding segment 5 VOBID: 4 CELLID: 4 - Rebuilding segment 6 VOBID: 4 CELLID: 5 - Updating NAVPACKS for VOBID_04 - 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Rebuilding ILVU Area VOBID: 17 CELLID: 2 - Rebuilding ILVU Area VOBID: 18 CELLID: 2 - Rebuilding ILVU Area VOBID: 17 CELLID: 3 - Rebuilding ILVU Area VOBID: 18 CELLID: 3 - Rebuilding segment 33 VOBID: 19 CELLID: 1 - Rebuilding segment 34 VOBID: 19 CELLID: 2 - Rebuilding segment 35 VOBID: 19 CELLID: 3 - Rebuilding segment 36 VOBID: 19 CELLID: 6 - Updating NAVPACKS for VOBID_19 - Updated VTS_C_ADT. - Updated VTS_VOBU_ADMAP. - Updated IFO: VTS_01_0.IFO - Updating TMAP table... - Processing VTS_06 - Reading/processing TMAP table... - Rebuilding segment 0 VOBID: 1 CELLID: 1 - Updating NAVPACKS for VOBID_01 - Rebuilding segment 1 VOBID: 2 CELLID: 1 - Updating NAVPACKS for VOBID_02 - Updated VTS_C_ADT. - Updated VTS_VOBU_ADMAP. - Updated IFO: VTS_06_0.IFO - Updating TMAP table... - Processing VTS_09 - Reading/processing TMAP table... - Rebuilding segment 0 VOBID: 1 CELLID: 1 - Updating NAVPACKS for VOBID_01 - Rebuilding segment 1 VOBID: 2 CELLID: 1 - Updating NAVPACKS for VOBID_02 - Updated VTS_C_ADT. - Updated VTS_VOBU_ADMAP. - Updated IFO: VTS_09_0.IFO - Updating TMAP table... - Processing VTS_10 - Reading/processing TMAP table... - Rebuilding segment 0 VOBID: 1 CELLID: 1 - Updating NAVPACKS for VOBID_01 - Rebuilding segment 1 VOBID: 2 CELLID: 1 - Updating NAVPACKS for VOBID_02 - Rebuilding segment 2 VOBID: 3 CELLID: 1 - Updating NAVPACKS for VOBID_03 - Rebuilding segment 3 VOBID: 4 CELLID: 1 - Updating NAVPACKS for VOBID_04 - Updated VTS_C_ADT. - Updated VTS_VOBU_ADMAP. - Updated IFO: VTS_10_0.IFO - Updating TMAP table... - Processing VTS_11 - Reading/processing TMAP table... - Rebuilding segment 0 VOBID: 1 CELLID: 1 - Updating NAVPACKS for VOBID_01 - Rebuilding segment 1 VOBID: 2 CELLID: 1 - Updating NAVPACKS for VOBID_02 - Updated VTS_C_ADT. - Updated VTS_VOBU_ADMAP. - Updated IFO: VTS_11_0.IFO - Updating TMAP table... - Processing VTS_12 - Reading/processing TMAP table... - Rebuilding segment 0 VOBID: 1 CELLID: 1 - Rebuilding segment 1 VOBID: 1 CELLID: 2 - Updating NAVPACKS for VOBID_01 - 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Correcting VTS Sectors... [01:22:28] Phase III, REBUILD completed in 8 minutes. Done. [01:22:28] PREPARE/ENCODE/REBUILD completed in 53 min. As for the size, it was 7.76gb. The overall compression for DVDShrink was 53.9% with keeping everything. I actually have never messed with the aec options. I know about them, but never worried about them because I was always happy with the results. But now I have decided its time to start looking into making the best possible backups I can and I am trying out all the options. EDIT: Just another piece of info, I tried using nero recode as well and it came out with spots that were green and pixelated. So far DVDShrink is the only thing that hasnt messed up part of the video.
Here is your problem: Reduction Level for DVD-5: 11.5% - Overall Bitrate : 600Kbs - Space for Video : 430,368KB How did you get the video to be that low? Was there DTS Audio and all the other languages that you're intended to keep? Try unchecking the audios you don't want. Even though, it shouldn't be this low. Your compressed file yielded less than of a 650MB/74 min CD-R! Check if you are using any of these versions: DVD Rebuilder Version 0.98.2-Free HCencoder 0.24 Avisynth 2.58 This should help improve whatever problem that is causing that kind of reduction
I have no idea why the bitrate was that low. I had only english audio and subtitles selected and dts files removed. I had all of those versions except hcencoder, which was .23. The .24 was beta so I stuck with .23. I will try out this and let you know what happens. I will post a log file to let you see as well. As for as the size and bitrate of the video, I dont know what happened. I have it set to high under the drop down menu. The resulting files came out to be 4.4gb EDIT: I was watching the hcenc popup during the process and after the first pass it would say bitrate set to 600. I didn't set it as that, and I put best for the profile in DVD Rebuilder. I am trying something else out to see if it works. I copied everything from the .24 version of hcenc over and renamed the hcenc_.24.exe to hcbatch.exe. Initially I hadnt copied over the ini file (as I read on the internet that all you had to do was replace the hcbatch file) but I copied over the ini file now. EDIT 2: Apparently that didnt help. Its still around the 550 - 600 kbps range in the popup EDIT 3: I noticed that in the status window of dvd rebuilder that it says "Reduction Level for DVD-5: 11.5% Overall Bitrate : 600Kbs Space for Video : 430,368KB " like before. I have everything set to best and have removed any audio and subtitles that weren't needed. I don't know what else to do.
I believe the setting lies in DVD-RB. Check the 'Mode' and 'Options' settings and see if it's properly selected. Also,under 'Mode'; uncheck 'Angle Processing' if you will. Funny, I didn't get that option, it's faded out. I think that's where the problem is.
I'm really stoked here. From the amount compressed based on your log, DVD-RB is basically hacking and throwing out close to 90% of material and keeping only 11% whereas the built file should be at around 55-56%, or close to Shrink's! Something is definitely NOT right here. Yor log does show Angle, not sure if that has anything to do with it, and I don't recall my encoded logs ever recorded anything like this before in the past. "Here is the entry from the log file: - Detected ANGLE and/or INTERLEAVING on source. [00:29:01] One Click encoding activated... ----------------- [00:29:02] Phase I, PREPARATION started."
Yea I have no idea what is going on. I saw that in the log, but I still have that one option greyed out. I am almost positive I have set it all up correctly. I mean, you never commented about my setup being the wrong way to do it. So I have no idea what is going on. Any more ideas?
My suggestion is to uninstall everything and reinstall in this order: Avisynth 2.58 (this is the latest version), DVD-RB 0.98.2-Free, HCencoder 0.24 (replace this with the current one that came with DVD-RB) and try again.
Hey sorry I got back so late. I still see the same entry in the log. EDIT: Disc 2 works out fine though. So the issue is with Disc 1 not dvd rebuilder. EDIT 2: I put Disc 1 through fixvts and that didnt help this problem. It caught a lot of stuff, but the bitrate and size didnt change.
