First off looking to upgrade my case fans. Looking for something that can move plenty of air but still runs fairly quiet. I just bought one of these:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811999145 a few weeks ago, and it wasnt really what I was looking for. I dont want something with a controller like this. Plus on full blast this thing ROARS. I can hear it in the other room with the door shut. I just want automatic speed control from the PSU like the stock case fans. I may invest in a fan controller unit at a later date though.I have heard good things about Scythe fans. Whats your thoughts? My case holds 11- 120 MM fans and 1- 80 MM fan.

Next up is I am thinking of investing in a 4870 in about a week to a month. I am debating on which of the 4870s to get:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102801
This is the weaker of the two(not by much).
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102815
This is the more powerful of the two. It also boasts the Vapor-X cooling design which I have heard does offer better cooling. So with the performance boost and the Vapor-X cooling is it really worth the $20 jump, and does this in fact offer better cooling over the cheaper 4870? Will the small performance boost generate more heat canceling out the Vapor-X cooling design?

I want to make sure it stays good and cool since it is known to generate alot of heat, so would it be good to invest in a cooler for the 4870(for either card) like these:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835186016
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835186021

Now from what I can see the 4870 is already more card then I need, and the price seems fair enough, so should I really worry about holding off for a DX11 card?

Originally posted by KillerBug:

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The only difference between the cards is the overclock and the cooler. The vapor-x cooler is better than the cooler on the cheap card, but only by a tiny bit. The cooler you found is poorly designed, and the fan wires often jam the fans or get ripped off. Personaly, I'd stick with the cheaper 4870.

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I heard the Vapor-X can lower temps by about 10*C.

As for the cooler the cooler is fine as far as I see, but indeed the fans are pretty bad. I think I am going to see how the cooling is stock and then possibly pick up the heat sink. If worse comes to worse I will mount a fan on the heat sink myself to where I know its good and sturdy.

Why do you suggest the cheaper? To met it seems like $20 is reasonable enough for a OC with a better stock cooler.

Well I took the time to read over the 4* and under reviews of the OCed card since there was only 9 or 10. I believe only one or two mentioned problems with the fan. Throw in a DOA or two, a few people knocking eggs off for its size, and a few bad driver experiences and that about covers the cons from that group.

The non OC card has far more 4* and under reviews, but is also the more popular card so its sort of to be expected on a more popular card.

The thing is I am worried about the costs of the of the DX11 card.

Originally posted by KillerBug:

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Originally posted by Xplorer4:

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The thing is I am worried about the costs of the of the DX11 card.

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There is a handy rule for all hardware: When the new stuff comes out, the old stuff gets cheap. Even if the cost of a new part keeps you from buying it, the older generation will drop in cost...saving you money or letting you buy a higher-end part.

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Well obviously. Im not some idiot off the street :p

Nor am I really that interested in say a 4870x2 even if it comes down in price. I really like the looks of the 4870s I posted, and there already more then I need. I rarley play any new games. I gave a train simulator(Railworks - which is fairly new I believe) a run the other week and my 9800GTX was having a rough time with it. It played smooth but there was alot of artifacts if I zoomed out. Seeing as the 4870 demolishes the 9800GTX+ I have no worried.

After thinking about it I am a bit concerned as to weather my Corsair HX520 will handle the 4870, 5 HDDs(4 of which will be dropped in favor of a 1 TB Caviar Green to consolidate storage before years end), DVD Burner,and several fans(about 8).

Speaking of fans, I am out of connections to run any more fans as it is, so considering fans probably draw little power, is it alright to place a splitter on the molex so I can run 2 fans from one molex?

Ok thanks Killer.

I think I am going to grab set of these molex splitters:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16812706015
Will this lessen the power to the fans causing them to run at slower RPMs?

Thanks and btw do you agree with Sam on the Sytche fans? Not that i dont have faith in Sam just like to hear multiple opinions, analyze them, and decide what the best option is? :)

NewEgg just got the 4870 OC in stock today and the regular 4870 has an ETA of this weekend I believe. So looks like there getting one last shipment.