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New Cinavia DRM takes aim at pirates

news article released on: 3 March, 2010

FileShareFreak has a very interesting report out today about Cinavia DRM, which is a new audio watermarking technology that takes aim at pirates, and those trying to playback movie downloads via their PlayStation 3s. The site says the watermarking works by "comparing the source of the audio to the format in which a movie was released (ie theatrical or commercial disc), and if the watermarked ...

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#51 26 Sep 2010 @ 16:47
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#52 06 Dec 2010 @ 11:03
ljbanner Suspended due non-functional email address
been messing around with the ps3 and cinavia protected file and have worked out that when you play the file you get about 20 mins watch then the cinivia banner kicks in and mutes audio.
i have found that when this happens exit file go to time settings in the ps3 options change time zone to any other and change the date to a different date (say 2042) then go back to the video file and it plays perfect for another 20 mins or so!!!!!!!!
hope this is of help to people. please bow down to the BANNERMAN
#53 09 Dec 2010 @ 6:14
dudizz Unverified new user
dude that's not a solution, it's barely a workaround
pausing the movie every 20 minutes for a settings change is a pain in the S
we should find a solution that needs one action only before playing the movie
oh and of course playing the movie in any speed other than x1 is not a real solution either

it should be some kind of audio recoding, don't know what codec, quality etc. i guess we have to figure out the specifics by trial and error, but i'm pretty limited with no ps3 to try it on (i'm trying to help a friend)
#54 11 Dec 2010 @ 17:52
Hey people-
FYI if you downgrade your PS3 to V3.01 and below, (i downgraded at 3.01) the bastard C*****via is not on that firware. I've tested with Karate Kid and Resiednt Evil After Life ( Bluray rips ) and 100% working. BTW - I have a fat Ps3 and using JBreak......
Hope this helps
Cheers
#55 11 Dec 2010 @ 17:59
Originally posted by tin23uk:
i figured a way around the little cinavia problem and have a file protected by cinavia now playing perfectly on my ps3.
Well ? Go eat S****T
#56 14 Dec 2010 @ 5:41
If you take just a quick look at the patents logged for this watermarking technology, you'll know there wont be a solution any time soon. The patents mention any attacks you might readily think of such as analysing/editing in audio software. I've done several experiments and know these facts:

It isn't affected by small time increases/decreases.
It is reliably detected within 4 seconds of audio.
It is not affected by direction i.e. it is still detected when playing audio backwards.

There are currently 2 workarounds for a PS3 on firmware 3.55:

1. Select 'Sound Settings' under the 'Settings' section, select 'Optical' and place a tick against all output options. You will get a warning that this could damage speakers so proceed with caution. There is another setting under the 'Sound Settings' which relates to enabling multiple outputs, set this to 'On'. I have tried this and it works, movie plays without any banner popping up.

2. If the above doesn't work then this one will (similar to ljbanner's method). When the cinavia message pops up, go to the date/time settings and set the hour back 1. Try playing the movie again and the banner should come straight up. Go back to date/time settings and move the hour forward again. You should now get another 20 mins.
#57 15 Dec 2010 @ 18:38
Select 'Sound Settings' under the 'Settings' section, select 'Optical' and place a tick against all output options. You will get a warning that this could damage speakers so proceed with caution. There is another setting under the 'Sound Settings' which relates to enabling multiple outputs, set this to 'On'. I have tried this and it works, movie plays without any banner popping up.


i hope that idea works.
#58 16 Dec 2010 @ 20:29
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great attempt at spamming us the the cartier $hit. Reported
#59 16 Dec 2010 @ 22:47
yeah.. real quality that ..
I nicked the post.. should come in useful .. hehehehehe



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#60 17 Dec 2010 @ 2:32
nitsua Unverified new user
I switched from Linear PCM to Bitstream so my receiver does the decoding and that seemed to work. Unfortunately, if you do not have a receiver, I don't know another workaround.
#61 17 Dec 2010 @ 2:59
nitsua8 Unverified new user
Nevermind that last post, it didn't work.
#62 18 Dec 2010 @ 15:09
Originally posted by Kyo_47:
Select 'Sound Settings' under the 'Settings' section, select 'Optical' and place a tick against all output options. You will get a warning that this could damage speakers so proceed with caution. There is another setting under the 'Sound Settings' which relates to enabling multiple outputs, set this to 'On'. I have tried this and it works, movie plays without any banner popping up.


i hope that idea works.
a saw the entire movie resident evil afterlife, and did work, next day i try to see The Social network on my ps3 and that fuckin cinavia appears again, any other solution? i don't understand why it works the first time and now it doesn't work.
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#63 18 Dec 2010 @ 18:56
in this link follow the video an d job done f**k you cinavia and sony www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Htgh9L87XY
#64 18 Dec 2010 @ 19:02
it works for resident evil afterlife and salt...but doesn't work for The Social Network, maybe because it's new movie with new update protecion cinavia.
#65 19 Dec 2010 @ 5:09
Originally posted by Kyo_47:
it works for resident evil afterlife and salt...but doesn't work for The Social Network, maybe because it's new movie with new update protecion cinavia.
ive watched social network through a memory stick on my ps3 and had no probs after using the sound settings work around www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Htgh9L87XY
#66 19 Dec 2010 @ 11:00
i have the firmware 3.55, and doesn't work for The social network, only play 20 minutes with audio.
#67 20 Dec 2010 @ 3:40
Originally posted by eza17:
2. If the above doesn't work then this one will (similar to ljbanner's method). When the cinavia message pops up, go to the date/time settings and set the hour back 1. Try playing the movie again and the banner should come straight up. Go back to date/time settings and move the hour forward again. You should now get another 20 mins.
The 'audio settings' workaround can be a bit hit and miss and it seems to depend on what the ps3 decides to do with the audio. If you do still have a problem then the above method will work, it's better than nothing and only interrupts the movie for 20 seconds.
#68 24 Dec 2010 @ 10:15
mikey7373 Unverified new user
Originally posted by eza17:
If you take just a quick look at the patents logged for this watermarking technology, you'll know there wont be a solution any time soon. The patents mention any attacks you might readily think of such as analysing/editing in audio software. I've done several experiments and know these facts:

It isn't affected by small time increases/decreases.
It is reliably detected within 4 seconds of audio.
It is not affected by direction i.e. it is still detected when playing audio backwards.

There are currently 2 workarounds for a PS3 on firmware 3.55:

1. Select 'Sound Settings' under the 'Settings' section, select 'Optical' and place a tick against all output options. You will get a warning that this could damage speakers so proceed with caution. There is another setting under the 'Sound Settings' which relates to enabling multiple outputs, set this to 'On'. I have tried this and it works, movie plays without any banner popping up.

2. If the above doesn't work then this one will (similar to ljbanner's method). When the cinavia message pops up, go to the date/time settings and set the hour back 1. Try playing the movie again and the banner should come straight up. Go back to date/time settings and move the hour forward again. You should now get another 20 mins.
Thank a lot. #1 worked. My Mannnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn
#69 30 Dec 2010 @ 4:02
Shermhead Unverified new user
PS3 goes on ebay and I wont reccomend it to any of my friends.
#70 04 Jan 2011 @ 11:02
julesrules9969 Unverified new user
I recently bought a pirated version of resident evil 4 on blu ray and it gives me this error. I have only seen people talking about this on their regular dvds but the protection is on blu ray too. Any way around this?
#71 04 Jan 2011 @ 17:02
can't help you as piracy is not condoned on this site.
#72 23 Jan 2011 @ 1:40
gzu355 Unverified new user
Originally posted by eza17:
If you take just a quick look at the patents logged for this watermarking technology, you'll know there wont be a solution any time soon. The patents mention any attacks you might readily think of such as analysing/editing in audio software. I've done several experiments and know these facts:

It isn't affected by small time increases/decreases.
It is reliably detected within 4 seconds of audio.
It is not affected by direction i.e. it is still detected when playing audio backwards.

There are currently 2 workarounds for a PS3 on firmware 3.55:

1. Select 'Sound Settings' under the 'Settings' section, select 'Optical' and place a tick against all output options. You will get a warning that this could damage speakers so proceed with caution. There is another setting under the 'Sound Settings' which relates to enabling multiple outputs, set this to 'On'. I have tried this and it works, movie plays without any banner popping up.

2. If the above doesn't work then this one will (similar to ljbanner's method). When the cinavia message pops up, go to the date/time settings and set the hour back 1. Try playing the movie again and the banner should come straight up. Go back to date/time settings and move the hour forward again. You should now get another 20 mins.
option 1 worked great for resident evil afterlife, have not tried with any other movie yet. as soon as i do i will post the results
#73 31 Jan 2011 @ 22:54
Crypto138 Unverified new user
Originally posted by Mr-Movies:
Originally posted by tin23uk:
i figured a way around the little cinavia problem and have a file protected by cinavia now playing perfectly on my ps3.
Fantastic!, and by the way I found out who created the Universe, but I'm not tell'n.... LOL
Well said.
#74 01 Feb 2011 @ 7:45
rollinsoundz Unverified new user
Originally posted by Crypto138:
Originally posted by Mr-Movies:
Originally posted by tin23uk:
i figured a way around the little cinavia problem and have a file protected by cinavia now playing perfectly on my ps3.
Fantastic!, and by the way I found out who created the Universe, but I'm not tell'n.... LOL
Well said.
So please tell all it would be very helpful.
#75 10 Feb 2011 @ 21:00
Dark Knight 2042 Unverified new user
Originally posted by rollinboy:
anyone confirm that this works...Quote...people with ps3's have you tryed this....I was able to watch it when I used convertxtodvd to burn the video and disconnected the PS3 from the internet. It played it just fine for me.

Last edited by yajdragon79 at 2010-05-20 12:29:12 anyone else with a ps3 who can't usually play this due to the cinavia crap confirm does this actually work ?
**I tried this and it doesnt work
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