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Sony president denies upcoming PS3 price cut rumors
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article published on 8 July, 2009
Sony president Sir Howard Stringer has once again denied that the company will be dropping the price of the PlayStation 3, despite source after source asking for one.
Stringer responded first directly to Activision CEO Robert Kotick's comments that the developer may not support the PS3 if the price isn't cut this year.
"He likes to make a lot of noise," added Stringer, via GI.biz. ... [ read the full article ]
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17. July 2009 @ 21:09 |
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Originally posted by chris4160: Originally posted by ZippyDSM: Originally posted by chris4160: Originally posted by ZippyDSM: Originally posted by chris4160: Originally posted by ZippyDSM: Originally posted by chris4160: Originally posted by Oner: I think my point has been very well PROVEN here. But believe what you will, I already know this is a waste of time since you have never provided proof with your "points".
Wtf is your point??? You keep saying it has been "proven", it has not! Zippy posted one link to an article written by a biest author trying to sell books (i will be sure to post equally irrelevant links once I get home).
And if he is baised where is the proof, via links he is not?
He's the author of exposing the 360 book, he's just creating more hype/interest around the subject.
*sigh*
Quote: And if he is so biased where is the proof, links?
At least try and defend your argument with some researched evidence to place some validity in it.
Here are a few more 30% rate claims
http://gizmodo.com/271487/xbox-360-failure-rate-30-says-retailers
(30%)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xbox_360_technical_problems
(higher than 15%)
http://www.marketingvox.com/in-australia...tailers-030879/
(30%)
http://www.smarthouse.com.au/Home/D3Q7G8S2
(30%)
You can not ignore MS's sloppiness, its just too widely reported.
Sigh.
Originally posted by chris4160: i will be sure to post equally irrelevant links once i get home
It's a bit hard to memorise an entire url. Btw, I said the xbox 360 had a 30% failure rate at release, you are just contradicting you 60% failure rate remark.
*yawns* thats wut R bookmarks iz for.
The 60% remark is based on the PRODUCTION LINE issues combined with off the self issues.
Unless they had a full 60% fail rate(gaaa been up all night I'll see if I can run down where in my arse that number came from,most likely its a combination of stuff) on the line where then they patched them got them working and then sold them....which could explain alot of things really..............
*yawns* I think you don't disagree with the 30%(all time high) fail rate number as much as the slightly ridiculous 60% right?
I do not claim that number to be off the self I do claim it as either whole or part of production and or off the shelf issues.
Production generally weeds out bad units the 360 had a high rate of them now I'll have to see if I can find what lead me to the 60% number I am sure it was a mix of things but fuzzy bwains seems to haz forgotten >> and I need sleep, I wrote all this together at once(and these lines last) so forgive the incoherence...I take nap now K bubye =X.X=
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Ok I did it for you
http://tech.yahoo.com/blogs/patterson/12...-percent-report
Quote: Gaming site 1UP.com got its hands on a survey from SquareTrade, a firm that sells warranties for various consumer electronics. The company recent took a thousand claims it received and compiled statistics about relative gaming console failure rates. The results? The PlayStation 3 and the Wii both clocked in with failure rates of three percent, pretty standard when it comes to the average gadget. The Xbox 360, however, racked up a failure rate of 16.4 percent, according to SquareTrade, with 60 percent of those failures due to the dreaded Red Ring of Death.
Which basically means, of what square trade covers they report a fail rate of 16% of which 60% accounts for the RROD.
Oh wait....... what its a is a statical study of 1000 people who bothered to fill out the form they were sent....
This basically means by then end of 07 the 360 may have had a fail rate around 16%, it also means out of the 30 million or so 360 users they hit a sweet spot in the 70%/30% working/nonworking statistic.
If you side with caution or reason there is really is nothing holding you back by saying that the fail rate can easily be above 15% even double it for older units possibly those made in and before 06-07 and the newer the units mid/late 07 to now will have a fail rate as high as 16%.
It really dose nothing to paint the 360/MS in a better light......... its still 5 or 6 times the normal fail rate for such devices....
Lol, so you were addding the failure rate from the production line with the failure rate off the shelf? What if some consoles failed on both the production line and off the shelf. Let's just say the xbox 360 use to have a high failure rate, which has been fixed now (to some extent).
I believe so, mind you I do not think the high production line fail rate, either it being 30% or 60% lasted long(and yes I haz 10 links and 20 odd pages to read through so I haz not found the solid basis for my pew..er..60% opinion :P), maxium 2 years more likely a year and some months and got the manufacturing troubles dealt with only to still have issues remaining from the design itself.
I think the 360 was plagued with issues, a poor design, poor manufacturing/build in its first 2ish or less years.
They fixed the build issues rather quickly but the design issues remain present to this day, altho because of the new chips its halved .
I really think they blamed the bad build for everything and put off or ignored issues with design until it was to late to really do anything. MS should bone up and do the 360 like a hard drive warranty.... 3 years parts and labor, fixed units have either 3 years from date of repair or from time of purchase of the original unit. Hell offer a exstend warranty for 50$ that ups the current 3y frist/90D on repaired setup to 3/3 with a 25$ deductible to re up the warranty to a full 3 years.
It would be nice if they did a bit more... then again putting a better heatsink/fan in it could fix everything....
Until lobbying is a hanging offense I choose anarchy!
Ah modern gaming its like modern film only the watering down of fiction and characters is replaced with shallow and watered down mechanics, gimmicks and shiny-er "people".
http://zippydsmlee.wordpress.com/
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rvinkebob
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17. July 2009 @ 21:13 |
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Originally posted by chris4160: Originally posted by ZippyDSM: Originally posted by chris4160: Originally posted by ZippyDSM: Originally posted by chris4160: Originally posted by ZippyDSM: Originally posted by chris4160: Originally posted by Oner: I think my point has been very well PROVEN here. But believe what you will, I already know this is a waste of time since you have never provided proof with your "points".
Wtf is your point??? You keep saying it has been "proven", it has not! Zippy posted one link to an article written by a biest author trying to sell books (i will be sure to post equally irrelevant links once I get home).
And if he is baised where is the proof, via links he is not?
He's the author of exposing the 360 book, he's just creating more hype/interest around the subject.
*sigh*
Quote: And if he is so biased where is the proof, links?
At least try and defend your argument with some researched evidence to place some validity in it.
Here are a few more 30% rate claims
http://gizmodo.com/271487/xbox-360-failure-rate-30-says-retailers
(30%)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xbox_360_technical_problems
(higher than 15%)
http://www.marketingvox.com/in-australia...tailers-030879/
(30%)
http://www.smarthouse.com.au/Home/D3Q7G8S2
(30%)
You can not ignore MS's sloppiness, its just too widely reported.
Sigh.
Originally posted by chris4160: i will be sure to post equally irrelevant links once i get home
It's a bit hard to memorise an entire url. Btw, I said the xbox 360 had a 30% failure rate at release, you are just contradicting you 60% failure rate remark.
*yawns* thats wut R bookmarks iz for.
The 60% remark is based on the PRODUCTION LINE issues combined with off the self issues.
Unless they had a full 60% fail rate(gaaa been up all night I'll see if I can run down where in my arse that number came from,most likely its a combination of stuff) on the line where then they patched them got them working and then sold them....which could explain alot of things really..............
*yawns* I think you don't disagree with the 30%(all time high) fail rate number as much as the slightly ridiculous 60% right?
I do not claim that number to be off the self I do claim it as either whole or part of production and or off the shelf issues.
Production generally weeds out bad units the 360 had a high rate of them now I'll have to see if I can find what lead me to the 60% number I am sure it was a mix of things but fuzzy bwains seems to haz forgotten >> and I need sleep, I wrote all this together at once(and these lines last) so forgive the incoherence...I take nap now K bubye =X.X=
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Ok I did it for you
http://tech.yahoo.com/blogs/patterson/12...-percent-report
Quote: Gaming site 1UP.com got its hands on a survey from SquareTrade, a firm that sells warranties for various consumer electronics. The company recent took a thousand claims it received and compiled statistics about relative gaming console failure rates. The results? The PlayStation 3 and the Wii both clocked in with failure rates of three percent, pretty standard when it comes to the average gadget. The Xbox 360, however, racked up a failure rate of 16.4 percent, according to SquareTrade, with 60 percent of those failures due to the dreaded Red Ring of Death.
Which basically means, of what square trade covers they report a fail rate of 16% of which 60% accounts for the RROD.
Oh wait....... what its a is a statical study of 1000 people who bothered to fill out the form they were sent....
This basically means by then end of 07 the 360 may have had a fail rate around 16%, it also means out of the 30 million or so 360 users they hit a sweet spot in the 70%/30% working/nonworking statistic.
If you side with caution or reason there is really is nothing holding you back by saying that the fail rate can easily be above 15% even double it for older units possibly those made in and before 06-07 and the newer the units mid/late 07 to now will have a fail rate as high as 16%.
It really dose nothing to paint the 360/MS in a better light......... its still 5 or 6 times the normal fail rate for such devices....
Lol, so you were addding the failure rate from the production line with the failure rate off the shelf? What if some consoles failed on both the production line and off the shelf. Let's just say the xbox 360 use to have a high failure rate, which has been fixed now (to some extent).
FFS people, shorten your quotes!!!! ;)
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17. July 2009 @ 21:48 |
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Originally posted by rvinkebob:
FFS people, shorten your quotes!!!! ;)
the system should only quote the last quote to keep things organized...it also should edit the last post and add to it for double posting.
:P
Until lobbying is a hanging offense I choose anarchy!
Ah modern gaming its like modern film only the watering down of fiction and characters is replaced with shallow and watered down mechanics, gimmicks and shiny-er "people".
http://zippydsmlee.wordpress.com/
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