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Should I get DVD-R or DVD+R?

Discussion in 'DVDR' started by gera229, Aug 29, 2010.

  1. gera229

    gera229 Regular member

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    I want to burn movies on a dvd and watch them on a dvd player. Should I get DVD-R or DVD+R? What are good brands? Thanks.
     
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    http://www.digitalfaq.com/reviews/dvd-media.htm Taiyo Yuden is probably the best, any Made in Japan are good too. Years ago DVD-R had the edge by a few percent but they're pretty even now. I would say DVD+R because it gives the ability of booktyping (makes the DVD+R appear to be a DVD-ROM) if you have a compatible burner. ImgBurn is free and booktypes, also if an older player make sure it plays + if not booktyping. Btw, TY prefers a higher burn speed, burn 8x at 8x and 16x at 12x, makes a difference in quality, very little in time.
     
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    gera229 Regular member

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    burn 8x at 8x and 16x at 12x, makes a difference in quality.

    Which one would have better quality? Thanks.
     
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    Interesting question but never compared, both well over 90% according to DVD Speed. Used to burn the 8x at 4x and never had a problem but Nero reported quality levels under 10%. Hard to believe but that's what it said.
     
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    gera229 Regular member

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    "burn 8x at 8x and 16x at 12x, makes a difference in quality."

    So if a DVD supports higher burn speed and you burn it at a lower speed, it will be higher quality then if it supports a burn speed that you burn it at?
     
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    A good rule of thumb is to burn DVD at 1/2 the rated speed of the media, personally I don't know what use these high burning speeds are on writers, makes very little difference timewise. Awfully rare but I actually heard of a CD flying apart inside the writer at around 48x, CD's I burn around 16x and so far no problems.
     
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    I've never really noticed a major difference between Dvd-r & dvd+r.Both seem to work fine for backing up movies and data( *now might be a good time to point out a major difference*).I have noticed cds almost too hot to handle after burning at really high speeds.verbatim are suppose to be really good.
     
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    DVD-R uses a land pre-pit as an address filing system during recording. Each DVD-R also requires a factory recording in the control data zone before leaving the factory in order to provide copy protection. DVD+R uses a high-frequency wobble modulation signal as its address filing system during recording. No factory recording is required. The fact that DVD+R discs can have their book type changed merely means that they can be converted to appear to be the equivalent of a recorded DVD-R, that is, a DVD-ROM as far as a player is concerned. (See the DVD Forum specs.) Long-term environmental tests seem to indicate that the DVD+R is more stable than DVD-R, but there is not enough data to confirm that. In all practical aspects, it makes no difference except for how well one's recording drive is tuned for a particular brand/format. Some drives favor a certain brands +R medium; other drives may favor that same brand's -R version.

    When in comes to rewritable discs, DVD+RW is superior to the DVD-RW whose design is intended only for sequential recording. The DVD+RW erases and formats faster and allows packet-writing formatting. The DVD-RW does not.

    For DL discs, the DVD+R DL has far more firmware support than does the DVD-R DL. It is better to buy the DVD+R DL discs unless one knows for sure that his or her drive supports a particular DVD-R DL disc.
     
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    I used to have problems when using dvd-r's.. since I switched to DVD+R no problemas at all with burning or skipping videos
     
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    From what has been posted it doesn't appear that DVD-RW can be book-typed,am I right or just another clueless neophyte?
     
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    From what I understand and don't quote me as I'm unsure but it may be possible if a second session is recorded to the same disc. Not worth it in my opinion and a greater consideration is that a great deal of DVD players aren't compatible with + or - RW' I have three and none play RW. Quote-"DVD-R bitsetting

    Although you will understand that it’s not possible to change the booktype field for DVD-R discs there still excists a DVD-R bitsetting. Some claim that this increases the compatibility but this has not been independently confirmed by anyone and as it’s technically impossible to change the booktype field it will still be possible for the hardware to find out that a disc is a DVD-R. The booktype setting for DVD-R discs seems to be based on a workaround that has not been proven to be working.

    According to Michael Spath who studies both the +R and -R format and is known as an expert on technical DVD recording issues; ”the trick is based on the fact that some drives read the booktype from the last border-in and not from the lead-in. Therefore if you create a second session on the disc you will create after the first session a new border-in, where you should normally copy the informations from the lead-in (including
    the book type). With this trick, you instead write a DVD-ROM booktype in this second session, which violates the – standard. Also drives which read the booktype from the lead-in will not be fooled by this method (eg. some Pioneer drives”)"
     
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    The DVD Forum recognized the DVD, DVD-RAM,DVD-R, and DVD-RW. All DVD players that have a DVD logo on them conform to the DVD Forum specifications. The only reason to change a bit setting is to alter a disc that is not recognized--that means only DVD+R and DVD+RW--so that it appears to conform and so that players will also recognize it as conforming to the spec. There is no need to change book type settings for DVD-RAM, DVD-R, or DVD-RW. (Some staunch DVD Forum supporters, mostly Panasonic whose DVD-RAM was threatened with extinction as it crawled from its shell, built players that refused to play DVD+R/+RW discs. That only hurt them in the market and forced +R/+RW supporters to develop the bit-setting workaround.)
     
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    The DVD Forum recognized the DVD, DVD-RAM,DVD-R, and DVD-RW. All DVD players that have a DVD logo on them conform to the DVD Forum specifications. The only reason to change a bit setting is to alter a disc that is not recognized--that means only DVD+R and DVD+RW--so that it appears to conform and so that players will also recognize it as conforming to the spec. There is no need to change book type settings for DVD-RAM, DVD-R, or DVD-RW. (Some staunch DVD Forum supporters, mostly Panasonic whose DVD-RAM was threatened with extinction as it crawled from its shell, built players that refused to play DVD+R/+RW discs. That only hurt them in the market and forced +R/+RW supporters to develop the bit-setting workaround.)
     

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