I have been thinking of getting into freesat and have seen this box quite cheap on ebay. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/280976697193?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649 On the bru at the moment so finances aint that good - Any recommendations or do you think the dreambox would be best. I need it for diseqc as I have a motorised dish currently working off a pci card in my server but want a decent pvr which i believe the f3 can be if you connect up a usb hard drive. I am not into cs , really just need freesat and the ability to receive Televisia Markisa in Slovakia which my current Technisat Dvb-s pci card int he pc and software just cannot seem to pull in on my 1.5mtr dish.