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How do I burn Divx for DVD Players?
#1
14 Aug 2002 @ 19:39
falconmog
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I'm having trouble burning Divx Files into files watchable on DVD players...I have it encoded as an mpeg with Avi2Vcd, but that's it...if anyone can help me, please do...thanks
-Rich
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#2
14 Aug 2002 @ 23:21
Wire
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If you made mpeg (VCD standard) file at DivX. Burn it with Nero Burner then you have "real" VCD. Now you can watch it with StandAlone DVD-player.
aD have guide for DivX->VCD
aD have guide for DivX->VCD
#3
15 Aug 2002 @ 3:46
Snowface
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There's also the possibility to drag your avi's in Nero. Just select a new project -> vcd's or svcd's -> drag 'n drop avi -> Nero will create mpeg's.
But since Nero isn't the fastest conversion, try it with small files first. Or, if you don't mind remuxing, try CCE: very fast, excellent quality, works with AviSynth.
But since Nero isn't the fastest conversion, try it with small files first. Or, if you don't mind remuxing, try CCE: very fast, excellent quality, works with AviSynth.
#5
15 Aug 2002 @ 5:13
Wire
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Snowface: I never even think about to build DVD-rips type "We make all At one click!!!!" programs. Almost every time quality is terrible.
You must remember CCE is also very expensive.
You must remember CCE is also very expensive.
#6
15 Aug 2002 @ 8:49
I've tried to drag and drop the DivX file into VCD of Nero, but I get no sound when I watch it on my DVD player...do you know how to fix this?
-Rich
#7
15 Aug 2002 @ 23:40
Wire
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What version you use. In 5.5.8.x versions have VCD build problems. Upgrade to 5.5.9.0
#8
16 Aug 2002 @ 4:51
Snowface
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I know that CCE is expensive (offically)
but since software changes too much too fast, I don't use legal software anymore (sorry !)
Except for WindowsXP, but that came with my computer
but since software changes too much too fast, I don't use legal software anymore (sorry !)
Except for WindowsXP, but that came with my computer
#9
16 Aug 2002 @ 7:02
Ok...I just downloaded 5.5.9.0. I'm gonna see if my VCD will have audio and video instead of just video.
-Rich
#10
16 Aug 2002 @ 9:04
Well, Nero 5590 works perfectly...the only problem I have now, is that my movies are too big to fit on CD...does anyone know how to compress Divx (avi) files moreso than they already are?
-Rich
#11
16 Aug 2002 @ 23:13
falconmog: Easy, simply re-encode using VirtualDub. Movie quality will just drop around 90% making movies virtually unwatchable.
#12
16 Aug 2002 @ 23:16
...umh.. Now after re-reading, your problem is that you are converting DivX to VCD with Nero and it doesn't fit to one CD? VCDs virtually never fit on one CD and it can't be changed -- 10mins of VCD takes 100megs, always.
#13
17 Aug 2002 @ 1:14
loaded
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Apparently, you can extend the length of your movie from the 74 odd minute CDR by using the Advanced options in Nero, by 'adding a few minutes to your CDs rated length' but this NEVER works (for me anyway). Anyone managed to get it to work? And with which media? I hear of 99 minute CDRs and would hope that most films (OK not Titanic, but who wants that anyway?) would fit on CDRs of that length...
P.
PS : It is not that I mind paying a few pence for an extra CD to record 3 minutes of movie and ten minutes of credits, mind you, just that (until Sony produce a DVD Changer) I don't like getting up and changing discs after sitting comfortably for over an hour...
P.
PS : It is not that I mind paying a few pence for an extra CD to record 3 minutes of movie and ten minutes of credits, mind you, just that (until Sony produce a DVD Changer) I don't like getting up and changing discs after sitting comfortably for over an hour...
#14
17 Aug 2002 @ 2:23
Snowface
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The problem with 99 minute cds, is that there are very few cd-recorders which can handle the full 99 minutes. In fact, the only one I know of which can read/write 99 minute cds is Lite-On. My Plextor will quit at 95:30. I can't even read beyond this. So I need the 90 minute version.
#15
17 Aug 2002 @ 3:14
loaded
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Yes, I suppose it is also important that the (preferably standalone) can read the disc after burning it. Does anyone have experience with these longer discs working in standalones? By the way, my recorder is a Pioneer DVD R/RW A04/104.
#16
17 Aug 2002 @ 5:10
Normally 90min discs work with new stand-alones.
Obviously the "Chinese players" (zillions of different brands like KISS, Yamakawa, Apex, etc) play longer discs as well, but they can't be used as reference players anyway since they're not real DVD players (but PC parts stucked inside DVD player case).
Obviously the "Chinese players" (zillions of different brands like KISS, Yamakawa, Apex, etc) play longer discs as well, but they can't be used as reference players anyway since they're not real DVD players (but PC parts stucked inside DVD player case).
#17
17 Aug 2002 @ 5:53
loaded
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OK, so I can burn with Pioneer A04, probably play with Philips or Panasonic, but why does Nero never allow me to overburn? (OK wrong forum, sorry dRD :-))
By the way, just got back from holiday, it was not supposed to be a sailing holiday, but as I have an apartment in Prague...... Oh Well, thats the price you pay for river views.
By the way how is the sleep coming along ¦-)
P.
PS (stupid question 4) what is a reference player?
By the way, just got back from holiday, it was not supposed to be a sailing holiday, but as I have an apartment in Prague...... Oh Well, thats the price you pay for river views.
By the way how is the sleep coming along ¦-)
P.
PS (stupid question 4) what is a reference player?
#18
17 Aug 2002 @ 8:02
Well, I got it to work, as much as I hate getting up from my chair and switching CDs...Nero won't overburn for ya? It always does with me...maybe you're not doing it with DiscAtOnce? You also can change the settings to say how much overburn you are allowed. Where do you guys find these 99 minute CDs? I saw 'em at Staples once, and next time I went there, they were all gone.
-Rich
#19
17 Aug 2002 @ 8:14
loaded
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I am assuming you are a Brit, or at least residing in that delightful little island, as Staples is a big local chain, I think only in England. There is an English company called CD-R Media (link follows:)
http://www.cd-rmedia.co.uk/cgi-bin2/cdrmedia/listproducts.pl?type=direct&catid=4
That link should get you straight there...
I have not used the company, however.....
Good Luck, P.
PS What is DiskAtOnce?
http://www.cd-rmedia.co.uk/cgi-bin2/cdrmedia/listproducts.pl?type=direct&catid=4
That link should get you straight there...
I have not used the company, however.....
Good Luck, P.
PS What is DiskAtOnce?
#20
18 Aug 2002 @ 9:45
Well, I'm not a Brit...I'm from Rhode Island...the state, not part of New York (you're thinking of Long Island). Anyway, DiscAtOnce is an option you click on when you're about to burn a CD with Nero. This is the only way you can overburn CDs. Basically, it means that this is it, no Multisession; this disc will be burned once, and only once. In order to do it with nero, click on New CD, and then click on "no multisession" (if you're doing a data CD) under the multisession tab. Then, under the Burn tab, click "Disc At Once". You'll be allowed to overburn, but it says it might damage the CD, or the CD Writer (although I've never had any problems...just don't do too much). Also, I put a DivX to a VCD, and the quality it shit...is there a way to fix this quality problem?
-Rich
#21
18 Aug 2002 @ 11:18
Quote:The rule with lossy compressions: you put shit in, you get shit out. Lossy compression formats, like MPEG-1, MPEG-2, MPEG-4 (DivX), etc always lose quality.
I put a DivX to a VCD, and the quality it shit...is there a way to fix this quality problem?
Think it like this:
DVD is your full 1,500 page novel. You encode it into some format (VCD, SVCD, DivX) that loses information -- you shrink it down, cutting "not important" parts from it and can fit it into 500 pages. Then you want to cut it shorter again, to 50 pages (wrong analogy in here, I agree, as VCD/SVCD/DivX normally are roughly the same size, but still the idea is there) -- making the 50-page abbreviation from 1500 pages might be possible, but as the guy who needs to do the 50-page version, only has the already-cut-down 500-page version and not the original, the result will be much worse than from the original.
#22
18 Aug 2002 @ 19:54
Yeah...I got what you're saying, but the only thing I don't get is that it's good quality on the computer...why does it lose so much when it's put to CD? It's not losing memory or anything, cuz It keeps it the same size.
-Rich
#23
19 Aug 2002 @ 1:18
You're re-encoding it. This can be demonstrated "easily" with DivX as well:
-encode 2min clip with bitrate of 600kbps, using DivX5
-take the resulting clip and re-encode it to 600kbps DivX5 again
-take this second result, re-encode it to 600kbps DivX5 again
-rinse / repeat
By end of this funny experiment, where the encoding method is 100% the same all the time and the file size will stay 100% same all the time, you end up having one 600x360 sized colorful pixel that flashes with different colors every now and then.
-encode 2min clip with bitrate of 600kbps, using DivX5
-take the resulting clip and re-encode it to 600kbps DivX5 again
-take this second result, re-encode it to 600kbps DivX5 again
-rinse / repeat
By end of this funny experiment, where the encoding method is 100% the same all the time and the file size will stay 100% same all the time, you end up having one 600x360 sized colorful pixel that flashes with different colors every now and then.
#25
19 Aug 2002 @ 2:41
To put it very simply:
From excellent source, you get good lossy results.
From good source, you get below-average results.
From below-average source, you get useless piece of video.
This applies to all lossy compression formats, not just video, but audio (MP3, OGG, WMA, etc) and images (JPEG) as well.
From excellent source, you get good lossy results.
From good source, you get below-average results.
From below-average source, you get useless piece of video.
This applies to all lossy compression formats, not just video, but audio (MP3, OGG, WMA, etc) and images (JPEG) as well.
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