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brianbuck
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21. August 2004 @ 15:58 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Well ive jst baught a network adapter and am trying to set it up & i cant get this thing going, please could someone help me before i eject the ps2 out the first floor window

Im trying to connect the ps2 na to a wireless laptop using ics, through a crossover cable

Ok ill jst give you the settings im using @ the moment.
And maybe you could take a look to see if they are right.

The host computer:
this computer is connected to a usb adsl modem. it has a bridge of a wired and a wireless lan.
the ip address of the bridge is 192.168.0.20, subnet is 255.255.255.0 for all computers on network.
there is no default gateway or DNS server set.
ICS is running on this computer

The client:
a wireless laptop,
for wireless adapter - ip 192.168.0.53, default gateway 192.168.0.20, DNS server 192.168.0.20.
Etehrnet adapter - ive tried ip 192.168.0.x, 192.168.1.x with and without the above gateway and dns.
the internet gateway is showing up here and is working with internet browsing. i tried to bridge the ethernet and wireless here and give it a ip of 192.168.0.x but then i lose all connections with gateway and wlan. so im leaving them unbridged

i have matched the settings on the ps2 and when i try to run a connection test it will only get as far as the dns test, and then it gives an error of DNS reslove failed no response from server (2)

anyone know whats goin on?
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Icemonkey
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22. August 2004 @ 05:31 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Do you have a wireless router or a basic wireless access point for your wireless connections. Also I'll try to diagram my understanding of how you're connected:


+------------+
| ADSL Modem |--------> Internet
+------------+
|
| USB
|
+--+
| |
| +--+
| | | Host PC
+--+--+
|
|/ Wireless
|
|
\ | /
+-----+
| | Wireless Access Point or Router???
+-----+ Important
|
|/
|
|
+--------+
| Laptop |
+--------+
|
| <-- What kind of connection
| from PS2 to Laptop???
+---------+
| PS2 ++
+--------+



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22. August 2004 @ 05:31 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Well, that diagram didn't turn out too well after posting. Anyway, I hope you understand what I'm trying to figure out.



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Lets try this:




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brianbuck
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22. August 2004 @ 18:31 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hi icemonkey thanks a million for replying

Ya dats my setup,i like the diagrams, i understood the first one.

Well its a D-link adsl router model dsl-604+ ,it is not connected to anything except power lead.

The lead to the ps2 is a crosswired patch cable
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22. August 2004 @ 18:34 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Icemonkey
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25. August 2004 @ 12:28 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
That is an extremely complicated setup and to simplify the problem, you're having a routing issue between the PS2 and the Internet with all the multi-homed devices you have installed between the two points. Rather than explain how to get the existing setup working I'd rather you modified your setup to match the following diagram unless you have reason to do otherwise then I can try to explain what to do with what you have already. Note my 1st recommendation requires purchasing two new components and based on the specs sheet you linked to I'm assuming that your wireless router can double as an ADSL modem. The components you will need for this setup will be a D-Link DWL-810 http://www.dlink.com/products/?pid=21 and a DWL-520 for the Host PC http://www.dlink.com/products/?pid=42 .



Again, if this is not feasible for you, I'll try to explain how to get your existing configuration working but it gets extremely complicated if you aren't comfortable with TCP/IP routing.





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25. August 2004 @ 12:31 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Also, I couldn't find this on the spec sheet you linked to but does your wireless router have a WAN port? If so, does it support USB, Ethernet, or both?



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26. August 2004 @ 11:41 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I can see what you are getting at, but im afraid i will not be able to implement it because i forgot to mention that the host computer is in another building, the host already has a DWL-G520 but it is connected to an antenna placed on the roof of the building because the distance between the host and router is too great to just use a normal wireless card.

If i was to move the router to the host building there would be problem, the router would not connect to the antenna.

I also wanted to mention that i could set up ps2 so that it connects to the router rather than the laptop if this is any easier for you

im not sure what you meant by a WAN port so i took a pic of the back of the router, but didnt have anywhere to post it. So ill just tell you, it has a port called console, 4 ethernet ports, a port called adsl, and it does not have any usb capabilities.

sorry we have to go about this the hard way!

Thanks
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26. August 2004 @ 15:30 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Setting up the PS2 to connect directly to the wireless router instead of through the laptop PC using ICS would be a much more desirable situation. We already know that the original setup I diagramed works until the PS2 is introduced so if you can't change it, that's fine. When you configure the PS2 to connect directly to the router try a manual TCP/IP configuration of 192.168.0.54 MASK 255.255.255.0 Gateway 192.168.0.20 DNS 192.168.0.20. The whole issue with the initial problem statement you gave me is directly related to the use of ICS. To oversimplify the problem, you cannot have two TCP/IP subnets connected with Windows ICS. They will attempt to auto-issue duplicate IP addresses wreaking havoc on your routing tables.



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27. August 2004 @ 01:37 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Ya, ok that sounds good ill try that later, im at work now. It's just a bit awkward because ill have to move a tv, playstation, & router into a different room.

I was jst wondering, what does the other option involve? Is it very awkward to set up? Do i need new hardware/software?

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27. August 2004 @ 03:27 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
The other option would involve creating a new logical TCP/IP subnet for the wired lan on the laptop although I am not sure if ICS can handle that. Can you leave everything where it is and use a DWL-810 to simply make the ethernet on the PS2 wireless or is there a distance issue between the PS2 and the wireless router?



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27. August 2004 @ 06:46 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I dont tink there would be a distance problem with the PS2 to the router but ill go try to see if i can connect the ps2 to the router useing wires first.


Thanks for all your help so far
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27. August 2004 @ 06:59 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
If connecting directly to the router with a cable works then the wireless bridge connection should work as well. At that point, it just matter where you want to setup the PS2.



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brianbuck
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28. August 2004 @ 16:23 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
No luck,
couldnt get the thing going!

I assigned the settings to the ps2 as you told me to, and connected the ps2 directly to the router (using crossover cable) but no luck.
The ps2 test stops at the first step this time, it doesnt even get a response from the network

Just wondering do i have to change any of the settings on the router, i have never changed anything on it since i got it.

I found a site with alot of information about the router if you want to take a look at it -
http://www.adslguide.org.uk/hardware/reviews/2003/q3/dlink_dsl604.asp

Maybe its time for plan B, what do you think?

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28. August 2004 @ 16:24 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Sorry double post

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28. August 2004 @ 16:31 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
If you connected to the switched ports on the router you should probably be using a patch cable and not a crossover. Try it with a patch cable assuming you have one around.



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29. August 2004 @ 06:27 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Okay the patch cable kinda worked!

I passed the diagnostic tests, with a ping of about 70-80ms.

But then when i go to connect to central station, the connecting screen comes up, but it never connects. Ive left it for 5 or 10 minutes but still it wont connect. Have you ever seen this before?
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29. August 2004 @ 06:32 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Does your network setup disc come with any TCP/IP diagnostic utilities that for example would let you ping a remote host? If so try pinging an IP address or Internet host from one of the PC until you find one that allows replies. Then try this on the PS2 and see if you get replies. Note whether you got replies when trying to ping a host by name or IP address from the PS2. At this point, I'm thinking there's a possible DNS problem. Do you know the inside IP address of the ADSL modem that's connected to the Internet? Try using that IP address as the DNS server on the PS2. Often people's ADSL modems/routers act as DNS proxies for all clients attached on the inside network.



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29. August 2004 @ 07:12 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
No it doesnt come with a utility like that. It jst comes with the utility for pinging the central station server, which was successful in my case

I trid to use the modems ip but no luck it is on a different subnet (255.255.0.0) & so couldnt connect to it
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29. August 2004 @ 07:31 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I mean rather try using the modem's internal IP address for the DNS server configuration on the PS2. That address does not have to be on the same subnet. Kinda like how your ISP provides DNS resultion but it's servers aren't located on your internal IP subnets. Also, if the wireless router or any other device on that subnet is assigning DHCP addresses you can try allowing the PS2 to be configured dynamically. The fact that you can ping the central server successfully indicated that traffic is routing from the PS2 to the central serve across your network properly. It's likely a DNS issue you're having at this point.



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29. August 2004 @ 14:08 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
ITS WORKING!!!

Thanks so much for all your help icemonkey, i couldnt have done anything without you!

All i had to do is turn off the laptop - strange i know but it seems to only work once the laptop is turned off!

The ip on ps2 is 192.168.0.54
dns 192.168.0.20
gateway 192.168.0.20

When i used the patch cable, the ps2 passed the diagnostics but couldnt connect to the server but when i turned of the laptop all worked well. i jst played Socom 1!

Thanks again icemonkey.
If theres anything i can do for you just call!

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29. August 2004 @ 14:23 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Maybe it was because ICS was still enabled on the laptop? Anyway, problem solved. Glad to help. Now that you know it works you can alwasy get a wireless bridge if you want to move your setup back where it was.



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