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lovefta
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17. May 2008 @ 13:41 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by 80sguy:
I was wondering if anybody else is having this problem. I upgraded from CS5000 to CS6100. Problem is that it's been some time now and it hasn't autorolled? I have the current bin in it?
I set mine up now. It says scramble channel for the last 5 minutes. Did urs autoroll yet?
lovefta
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17. May 2008 @ 14:18 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Why is the coolsat 6100 scrambled for me? Does anyone else have that problem?
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17. May 2008 @ 14:53 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by lovefta:
Why is the coolsat 6100 scrambled for me? Does anyone else have that problem?
Make sure AR is on, leave on encrypted channel and let AR work. If you notice it takes 30 minutes or more or does not work then its time for factory reset, flash with factory bin, redo settings and then should work immediately. Sometimes from copying file over file after awhile data is left and files become corrupt.
lovefta
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17. May 2008 @ 15:45 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by Blnkstare:
Originally posted by lovefta:
Why is the coolsat 6100 scrambled for me? Does anyone else have that problem?
Make sure AR is on, leave on encrypted channel and let AR work. If you notice it takes 30 minutes or more or does not work then its time for factory reset, flash with factory bin, redo settings and then should work immediately. Sometimes from copying file over file after awhile data is left and files become corrupt.
AR is on. I waited. I did the factory reset, loaded the factory bin, then the current bin, but it still says scramble channel. (I think I have the right factory bin- Cs6100-v112-factory???)

Still not working...
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17. May 2008 @ 15:49 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by lovefta:
Originally posted by lovefta:
Originally posted by breck68:
Originally posted by lovefta:
Originally posted by 80sguy:
I was wondering if anybody else is having this problem. I upgraded from CS5000 to CS6100. Problem is that it's been some time now and it hasn't autorolled? I have the current bin in it?
Do you have the current bin in it? If so, it should autoroll. But at least you already set urs up. I try to set my cs6100 with the usb drive. (Is a flashdrive supposed to come with the reciever? Because I have a flashdrive, but theres no place to enter it into the back of the reciever.) And I can't find the loader for the cs6100- (its supposed to be the 7000 loader?)
I'm losing my MIND!
HOLY CRAP! lol. Thanks . I feel stupid now. lol.

The 6100 uses the 7000/7100 loader. Same thing.
The USB slot is in the front. Open the faceplate door on the right front. It's hidden behind it.


My 6100 was scanning for channels automatically but it froze on 18% on 110. What do I do?
Try manual scan - this last bin isn't the greatest.
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17. May 2008 @ 15:51 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by lovefta:
Originally posted by Blnkstare:
Originally posted by lovefta:
Why is the coolsat 6100 scrambled for me? Does anyone else have that problem?
Make sure AR is on, leave on encrypted channel and let AR work. If you notice it takes 30 minutes or more or does not work then its time for factory reset, flash with factory bin, redo settings and then should work immediately. Sometimes from copying file over file after awhile data is left and files become corrupt.
AR is on. I waited. I did the factory reset, loaded the factory bin, then the current bin, but it still says scramble channel. (I think I have the right factory bin- Cs6100-v112-factory???)

Still not working...
Yep here is a link change xx to tt for factory bin
hxxp://forums.f2atv.com/showthread.php?t=217477

bin v149

hxxp://forums.f2atv.com/showthread.php?t=276353

above is loading instructions
lovefta
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17. May 2008 @ 16:19 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Yes! It's working. I had to leave it on channel 170 and then it came several minutes later.

But is there a new factory bin? Do I have to load it?
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17. May 2008 @ 16:24 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by lovefta:
Yes! It's working. I had to leave it on channel 170 and then it came several minutes later.

But is there a new factory bin? Do I have to load it?
good, enjoy tv. No its fine.
breck68
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17. May 2008 @ 16:38 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Just update with the thumb drive. No need to rescan.
Load and picture should come right on.
spider232
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17. May 2008 @ 21:41 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
hey do you guys know were can I find a guide to get my sv 4000 to work its new and i dont know the steps load the first bin file
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17. May 2008 @ 21:45 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by spider232:
hey do you guys know were can I find a guide to get my sv 4000 to work its new and i dont know the steps load the first bin file
Goto xxx.bindepot.ca xxx=www

All the info you need is there, free registration and free downloads
spider232
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17. May 2008 @ 21:49 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by Blnkstare:
Originally posted by spider232:
hey do you guys know were can I find a guide to get my sv 4000 to work its new and i dont know the steps load the first bin file
Goto xxx.bindepot.ca xxx=www

All the info you need is there, free registration and free downloads



thank you blnk



thank you blnk
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17. May 2008 @ 22:12 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by spider232:
Originally posted by Blnkstare:
Originally posted by spider232:
hey do you guys know were can I find a guide to get my sv 4000 to work its new and i dont know the steps load the first bin file
Goto xxx.bindepot.ca xxx=www

All the info you need is there, free registration and free downloads



thank you blnk



thank you blnk
Your welcome spider now promise you wont bite me?
spider232
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18. May 2008 @ 03:05 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by Blnkstare:
Originally posted by spider232:
Originally posted by Blnkstare:
Originally posted by spider232:
hey do you guys know were can I find a guide to get my sv 4000 to work its new and i dont know the steps load the first bin file
Goto xxx.bindepot.ca xxx=www

All the info you need is there, free registration and free downloads



thank you blnk



thank you blnk
Your welcome spider now promise you wont bite me?

no i dont bite hey I check bindepot but I didn't find any steps I found how to load the bin files but I dont know if i should load the factory bin first or just the most recent bin file
breck68
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18. May 2008 @ 09:54 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by spider232:
Originally posted by Blnkstare:
Originally posted by spider232:
Originally posted by Blnkstare:
Originally posted by spider232:
hey do you guys know were can I find a guide to get my sv 4000 to work its new and i dont know the steps load the first bin file
Goto xxx.bindepot.ca xxx=www

All the info you need is there, free registration and free downloads

thank you blnk



thank you blnk
Your welcome spider now promise you wont bite me?

no i dont bite hey I check bindepot but I didn't find any steps I found how to load the bin files but I dont know if i should load the factory bin first or just the most recent bin file
Because the site is fairly new, there is still a lot of info missing.
That's why we rely on members to post any info that may be of help to others.

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18. May 2008 @ 11:39 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
WOW, I think someone actually heard me, this is eerie and odd but:
C/P
BRACE YOURSELVES:

COOLSAT 4/5/6 news...brace yourselves

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cut and paste but from a reliable source

CoolSat upgrade program

We are proud to introduce an upgrade program for the older CoolSat 4000/5000/6000 STB’s that we can no longer get parts to fix. Send you’re none working box in for an upgrade.

Effective immediately you can trade your old stb in for an upgrade to a CoolSat 6100 by sending in your old box and $79.00 U.S Dollars.

Any repairs that your stb may need for the 2 years will only cost $10.00 U.S Dollars for shipping back to you. You will need to fill out an rma and attach a copy of the upgrade paper work for repair work.

This warranty is only good for upgrades for all others the standard warranty applies.

We do apologize for any inconvenience having to upgrade has caused and hope that you choose to buy CoolSat for your future purchases. We are trying to be responsible for our promise to our loyal customers.

This warranty is only good for boxes with the original factory software on it as we do not support any 3rd party software and not for clones of our equipment.


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I can tell you if you have a clone then please do not tell them when you fill out the paper work because they are just going to crush whatever comes in without bothering to look at it, But I am not suppose to tell you that part lol..


Also no dealers will be able to offer you this it only works thru the importer.
Coolsatusa.com has the link to the Canadian site.

As of 11pm PST May 17th, the link was apparently not up yet.
Expected soon though.
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18. May 2008 @ 11:51 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
If its true, not really a customer service stragety, send the box and 79.00 for a 6100? Keep the box if they are only going to give 10 or 20 credit and move on. If they asked for 79.00 + box for lets say 7100 then that the right move.
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18. May 2008 @ 17:19 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by Blnkstare:
WOW, I think someone actually heard me, this is eerie and odd but:
C/P
BRACE YOURSELVES:

COOLSAT 4/5/6 news...brace yourselves

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cut and paste but from a reliable source

CoolSat upgrade program

We are proud to introduce an upgrade program for the older CoolSat 4000/5000/6000 STB’s that we can no longer get parts to fix. Send you’re none working box in for an upgrade.

Effective immediately you can trade your old stb in for an upgrade to a CoolSat 6100 by sending in your old box and $79.00 U.S Dollars.

Any repairs that your stb may need for the 2 years will only cost $10.00 U.S Dollars for shipping back to you. You will need to fill out an rma and attach a copy of the upgrade paper work for repair work.

This warranty is only good for upgrades for all others the standard warranty applies.

We do apologize for any inconvenience having to upgrade has caused and hope that you choose to buy CoolSat for your future purchases. We are trying to be responsible for our promise to our loyal customers.

This warranty is only good for boxes with the original factory software on it as we do not support any 3rd party software and not for clones of our equipment.


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I can tell you if you have a clone then please do not tell them when you fill out the paper work because they are just going to crush whatever comes in without bothering to look at it, But I am not suppose to tell you that part lol..


Also no dealers will be able to offer you this it only works thru the importer.
Coolsatusa.com has the link to the Canadian site.

As of 11pm PST May 17th, the link was apparently not up yet.
Expected soon though.
F-(k them!

We're supposed to give them more money so that they can stop supporting the 6100 also?
JerryRock
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18. May 2008 @ 17:50 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by Blnkstare:
WOW, I think someone actually heard me, this is eerie and odd but:
C/P
BRACE YOURSELVES:

COOLSAT 4/5/6 news...brace yourselves

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cut and paste but from a reliable source

CoolSat upgrade program

We are proud to introduce an upgrade program for the older CoolSat 4000/5000/6000 STB’s that we can no longer get parts to fix. Send you’re none working box in for an upgrade.

Effective immediately you can trade your old stb in for an upgrade to a CoolSat 6100 by sending in your old box and $79.00 U.S Dollars.

Any repairs that your stb may need for the 2 years will only cost $10.00 U.S Dollars for shipping back to you. You will need to fill out an rma and attach a copy of the upgrade paper work for repair work.

This warranty is only good for upgrades for all others the standard warranty applies.

We do apologize for any inconvenience having to upgrade has caused and hope that you choose to buy CoolSat for your future purchases. We are trying to be responsible for our promise to our loyal customers.

This warranty is only good for boxes with the original factory software on it as we do not support any 3rd party software and not for clones of our equipment.


---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------


Quote:
I can tell you if you have a clone then please do not tell them when you fill out the paper work because they are just going to crush whatever comes in without bothering to look at it, But I am not suppose to tell you that part lol..


Also no dealers will be able to offer you this it only works thru the importer.
Coolsatusa.com has the link to the Canadian site.

As of 11pm PST May 17th, the link was apparently not up yet.
Expected soon though.
This is a cut and paste from "The Boss (Blind Scan)" on Coolsat's own F2ATV site. The replies to this post on F2ATV are right on target. The replies say that people no longer trust Coolsat and will never buy another one and they are saying it right on Coolsat's website without fear of retribution of being barred from the site because they don't care. Coolsat made a big mistake by trying to force people to spend more money and upgrade by abandoning the 4000, 5000 and 6000's. Upgrading for $79.00 to a 6100 with a return of your now unsupported receiver is really a ridiculous attempt by Coolsat to try to repair the very bad marketing decision they made because they now are seeing the backlash. Because of this very poor decision, Coolsat probably will not make the same mistake again by abandoning the later models like they did with the older ones, but even if they have learned and don't make the same mistake again, they're not getting one red cent from me again, period. I've been trying to warn people about this for months but each time I said it I was the "Coolsat Basher" who didn't know what I was talking about. OK, no problem. Breck, you out there somewhere?

This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 18. May 2008 @ 19:35

JerryRock
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18. May 2008 @ 18:14 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I now have 3 paperweights that were usable Coolsat receivers but will remain paperweights because I'm not going to upgrade for $79.00 or for one cent! Coolsat will have to pay me to upgrade to another Coolsat receiver because there are many alternatives that have not and will not be abandoned, at least not in a reasonable amount of time. Coolsat thought they were slick, but they just slicked their selves right out of the market. I wouldn't be surprised if this was a calculated decision to try to make some more money before they cut and run because of the lawsuit against Freetech. If that happens even the newer model owners will get screwed too - only time will tell.

This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 18. May 2008 @ 19:21

coldwell
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18. May 2008 @ 19:58 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hey Blnk do you know anything about the VS Platinum Lite? Is it up now and do the files come out quick?

Thanks for any help
harlechpr
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18. May 2008 @ 19:59 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hey guy's as much as I don't want to agree with JerryRock believe me I don't. This time I have to. c/s is not gonna get another penny from me. I will order my s/v4000 at the end of the week.
harlechpr
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18. May 2008 @ 20:03 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by coldwell:
Hey Blnk do you know anything about the VS Platinum Lite? Is it up now and do the files come out quick?

Thanks for any help
All of the v/s products come out at pretty much the same time for the fix. I have the ultra and we love it!!!
coldwell
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18. May 2008 @ 20:05 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by harlechpr:
Originally posted by coldwell:
Hey Blnk do you know anything about the VS Platinum Lite? Is it up now and do the files come out quick?

Thanks for any help
All of the v/s products come out at pretty much the same time for the fix. I have the ultra and we love it!!!
Do you know if the Lite is about the same as the Ultra?
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JerryRock
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18. May 2008 @ 20:06 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Oh yea, one more thing. Do you know why Coolsat (NORWGROUP) wants your 4000, 5000 and 6000's back for a $10 or $20 credit for a 6100? Why would they want those unsupported receivers back? It's not because of repair parts like they say in that post about returning them for a credit of $10 to $20 on a 6100 - anyone can find a 20 cent resistor anywhere no matter if it is 10 ohms or 10 megaohms. A friend I know on the inside told me. They want these receivers back because they still are usable receivers provided a usable bin is made for them. Once a new encryption is introduced (a new ECM), the decryption is the same for all receivers, it doesn't matter if it's a Coolsat 4000, a 7000 or a 100000 or even a different brand because they ALL have the same microchip that decrypts the encryption. Different brands even sell the decryption code once it is known to other brands and that's why after 2, 3, or 4 days after a blackout it seems that everyone gets it all at once and the bins start coming out all within a couple of days of each other. The only limitation is the memory in the receiver and the 4000, the oldest model, still has enough memory to work. They want these receivers back because they'll have a stock load of usable receivers to hand out for free to themselves and their friends. The bins for them will be provided offline, not available to the public like you and me, and they're gonna watch free TV on receivers that they didn't pay for, but instead we paid for them. So, Coolsat and their friends want to watch free TV on our dollar, and they want us to cooperate?

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