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How to view bin/cue files after burn them onto CD-R/CD-RW?

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  1. romale

    romale Member

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    Hi!
    I downloaded bin/cue files from i-net,wrote them to CD,using Alcohol 120(first time) and Nero(second attempt).Tne burning seems to be without any errors.
    The problem is-how can I open and watch files(it's a trilogy movie with Bruce Willis "Die Hard",all 3 movies).May be I need a special type of player to watch this movies or am doing something wrong?
    Any help from Profi is greatly appreciated.
    Thanks to everybody.
     
  2. aldaco12

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    If you burned properly the CD, the movie can be seen only with the original application that was needed for that CD (for instance: you will need a VCD player, if the original CD was a VCD).

    After burning you cannot see anymore the .BIN (which is simply a collection of digital data) or the .CUE (which is a txt file that describes the layout of the disc: session, tracks, data type or so on).

    You can check if you burned a correct CD and not a coaster by opening it with ISOBUSTER.

    Isobuster scans the CD layout and will be capable to list iall nformation that are included on it (sessions, data tracks, videos, audio tracks or so on). If ISOBUSTER shows only a generic 'Track1' and you cannot see any additional info (and from the PC you do not see the files you would see on a normal PC CD) you have burned a coaster.

    Good luck!
     
  3. romale

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    Thank you very much,aldaco 12 for your comment.
    One more question:I checked written CD with isobuster and got the following picture(tree) -
    CD-session1-track01-die_hard_trilogy(iso)-D1(contains con1, con2)-D2(data, maps)-D3(data, maps)-movies-sel-track02 to track 22(one below other).
    Please,make a comment on this info-what does it mean?
    I tried to play this disk on vcd(Sony)-no audio,no video;tried to play it on dvd(jvc)-no effect either.
    The label(name of the file) says that it came from UK-PAL.May be the reason it doesn't work in this?
    Thanks again for your help.
     
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    Now I'm reaching the limit of my capabilities (I have never burned a DVD/VCD so I cannot list all the possible reasons that cause the CD not to play. Country Code, or other protections, might in fact be a reason.

    You might check the proper video forum:
    http://forums.afterdawn.com/forum_view.cfm/40 (for VCD) or
    http://forums.afterdawn.com/forum_view.cfm/35 (for DVD-R media)

    What I can say to you is this:

    1) The fact that you see multiple tracks is good. This means that you read properly the .CUE file and, also, that the burner read from the .CUE file the proper MODE (MODE2) for burning.

    2) Tracks from 2 to 22 are probably audio tracks. Do the look different from the first data track? (e.g. you see a little symbol reminding music near the CD that is displayed near the 'Track#' label?) You can also check this using the property command (right click on the Track symbol, choose properties, then 'Advaced').

    There is one last check I could do for you. You should post here the first lines of that .CUE file (open with notepad then cut-and-paste). Do not copy all the tracks, just the first two (if all are similar). You should have something like this:

    FILE "IMAGE.BIN" BINARY
    TRACK 01 MODE2/2352
    INDEX 01 00:00:00
    TRACK 02 AUDIO
    PREGAP 00:02:00
    INDEX 01 07:46:38
    ... (similar for TRACKS 3 and greater)

    Post it here and let me have a look...

    Bye
     
  5. romale

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    Hi,aldaco 12.Thank You kindly.Great job!!!
    You was right-properties shows that tracks 02-22 are audio files.
    Now what I got about the entire files(bin/cue):
    (PSX)Die hard trilogy [PAL-UK].bin (size)597 614 976 BIN Image
    (PSX)Die hard trilogy [PAL-UK].cue (size)1439 CUE File for Image
    And following info that's what I have in .cue file(the rest of tracks are similar to #3):

    FILE "(PSX) DIE HARD TRILOGY [PAL-UK].BIN" BINARY
    TRACK 01 MODE2/2352
    INDEX 01 00:00:00
    TRACK 02 AUDIO
    PREGAP 00:02:00
    INDEX 01 11:18:25
    TRACK 03 AUDIO
    INDEX 00 13:18:25
    INDEX 01 13:20:25
    And the last question(sorry,I'm new in this):Do I need to burn both files(bin and cue) to the CD or only one of them and which one(bin or cue)?Because now I burned only cue file onto CD.May be this is a problem that I can't see the movie?
    Thanks again for your help.Wish You the best!

     
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    You did not read the README1ST, didn't you? I understand you, it is 5 pages long!

    BTW, here is a quick explanation:

    1) .CUE and .BIN are two side of the same medal, that is the CD layout:
    - The .BIN is a binary file that contains the *actual* data that are on the CD. Each physical sector of the CD - you have 333,000 sectors on a 74 min CD and about 360,000 sectors on a 80 min CD - is converted in bytes. Each CD sector is converted, by the 'extraction' process, into 2352 bytes of your .BIN image file).
    - The .CUE file is, instead, a text file. It is a sort of 'Table of Content' that tells your burner which kind of data have been extracted from the CD (that may be, roughly, standard PC-type data (or MODE1), PSX/VIDEO data (or MODE2), AUDIO data (or AUDIO). For this reason the .CUE file contains info like "TRACK 01 MODE2/2352" or "TRACK 02 AUDIO" and so on.
    Please note that many data type can coexist on the same CD (the CD will be a multi-track CD) and that more Tracks of the same type (usually this is true for Audio tracks, like on a music CD) can exist.

    When Nero, CDRWin, whatever 'opens' the .CUE file (by selecting the command BURN IMAGE in Nero or 'Record Disc' in CDRWin) you DO NOT *burn* the .CUE file. More properly, you 'Compile the image'. This is how Nero (or Cdrwin) knows that the first part of the .BIN file is made of Mode2 blocks (and must be written on the CD accordingly), then that the following bytes in the .BIN must be converted in Audio blocks for track2 and so on.

    (Note: you CAN burn the .CUE, selecting 'Make a CD' on Nero. This wold result on a .CUE file on the CD, as if you copied it on a direcory of your PC.)


    Finally, about your question: the prefix 'PSX' and the fact that the layout is made of one Mode2 Data track (TRACK1/MODE2) and N Audio tracks makes me think that you might be dealing with a PSX Game (PAL-UK) image.

    To chack this, try to run the .BIN file with an emulator (ePSXexe, or VGS if ePSXexe does not work). You can find them in the net (search on the Net, on PSX emulation sites - not here - about how to install and use it). I'm quite confident it will work.

    Good luck. Let me know if I was right!!!!
     
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    *** BINGO!!!! ******

    Sorry for you, I'm afraid I was right. I made a search on the net, and look at what I found

    http://www.game-revolution.com/games/sony/diehard.htm

    Hope you own a PSX (and that you choosed a low burning speed). Wish you better luck next time!
     
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  8. romale

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    Hi,aldaco 12!
    Unfortunately,You was right-it's a game,not the movie that I like so much.My neighbour has a psx,we checked it on it-works great and he got a great present.
    Next time I'll be more carefull.
    Thank You for this great job that You did for me.
    Wish You the very best!
     

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