Followed Guide for DVD shrink/Nero, still didn't work (log included)

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  1. creaky

    creaky Moderator Staff Member

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    don't forget the firmware update also..
     
  2. fenikjo

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    Thank you everyone for all of your help. I reinstalled all of Nero, ran a defrag on my computer and uploaded new firmware for my drive. I'm not sure what did the trick, but now things are working well. The only remaining problem is that at times when it prompts me to put in an empty disc and I put one it, it tells me the initial tracks are invalid, or no disc recognized and the burn failed. Sometimes just injecting the disc and reinserting it fixes the problem, other times I need to put in a different blank. Any thoughts on this new issue?
     
  3. Jerry746

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    Your last problem may go back to the first reply I posted. I think your blank media is not of good quality. Try changing to a known better brand as in TY, Ritek or Verbatim. That should clear up that last problem.

    Jerry
     
  4. fenikjo

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    Thanks for the advice. I thought Sony was a better type of media. I'll give it a try. Thanks for all the help guys.
     
  5. wildrice

    wildrice Guest

    I have been using both Shrink and Crypt for a few months now and starting having problems just lately. I followed this guide to a "T" that I read from another thread thanks to (ReZips/Newbie) and checked everything 3 times and come up against this error each time. By the way this is the best darn guide I have come accross yet it was very helpful, but the end results are still a headache. Can anyone give me a hand? Please...

    Here is a copy of the log from Crypt. I tried this twice back 2 back on XXX_STATE_OF_THE_UNION and TARZAN(MY DAUGHTERS) not mine, both with the same error.

    I 20:15:03 DVD Decrypter Version 3.5.4.0 started!
    I 20:15:03 Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition (5.1, Build 2600 : Service Pack 2)
    I 20:15:03 Initialising SPTI...
    I 20:15:03 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices...
    I 20:15:03 Found 1 DVD±RW!
    I 20:15:04 Operation Started!
    I 20:15:04 Source File: C:\DVD WORK\TARZAN.ISO
    I 20:15:04 Source File Sectors: 2,091,075 (MODE1/2048)
    I 20:15:04 Source File Size: 4,282,521,600 bytes
    I 20:15:04 Source File Implementation Identifier: DVD Shrink
    I 20:15:04 Destination Device: [1:0:0] Slimtype DVDRW SOSW-852S PSD1 (D:) (ATA)
    I 20:15:04 Destination Media Type: DVD-R (Disc ID: CMC MAG. AM3) (Speeds: 2x)
    I 20:15:04 Destination Media Sectors: 2,297,888
    I 20:15:04 Write Mode: DVD
    I 20:15:04 Write Type: SAO
    I 20:15:04 Write Speed: 4x
    I 20:15:04 Link Size: Auto
    I 20:15:04 Test Mode: No
    I 20:15:04 BURN-Proof: Enabled
    I 20:15:04 Filling Buffer...
    I 20:15:06 Writing LeadIn...
    W 20:15:06 Failed to Write Sectors 0 - 31 - Invalid Field in Parameter List
    W 20:15:06 Retrying (1 of 20)...
    W 20:15:06 Retry Failed - Invalid Field in Parameter List
    W 20:15:06 Retrying (2 of 20)...
    W 20:15:06 Retry Failed - Invalid Field in Parameter List
    W 20:15:06 Retrying (3 of 20)...
    W 20:15:06 Retry Failed - Invalid Field in Parameter List
    W 20:15:06 Retrying (4 of 20)...
    W 20:15:06 Retry Failed - Invalid Field in Parameter List
    W 20:15:06 Retrying (5 of 20)...
    W 20:15:06 Retry Failed - Invalid Field in Parameter List
    W 20:15:06 Retrying (6 of 20)...
    W 20:15:06 Retry Failed - Invalid Field in Parameter List
    W 20:15:06 Retrying (7 of 20)...
    W 20:15:06 Retry Failed - Invalid Field in Parameter List
    W 20:15:06 Retrying (8 of 20)...
    W 20:15:06 Retry Failed - Invalid Field in Parameter List
    W 20:15:06 Retrying (9 of 20)...
    W 20:15:06 Retry Failed - Invalid Field in Parameter List
    W 20:15:06 Retrying (10 of 20)...
    W 20:15:06 Retry Failed - Invalid Field in Parameter List
    W 20:15:06 Retrying (11 of 20)...
    W 20:15:06 Retry Failed - Invalid Field in Parameter List
    W 20:15:06 Retrying (12 of 20)...
    W 20:15:06 Retry Failed - Invalid Field in Parameter List
    W 20:15:06 Retrying (13 of 20)...
    W 20:15:06 Retry Failed - Invalid Field in Parameter List
    W 20:15:06 Retrying (14 of 20)...
    W 20:15:06 Retry Failed - Invalid Field in Parameter List
    W 20:15:06 Retrying (15 of 20)...
    W 20:15:06 Retry Failed - Invalid Field in Parameter List
    W 20:15:06 Retrying (16 of 20)...
    W 20:15:06 Retry Failed - Invalid Field in Parameter List
    W 20:15:06 Retrying (17 of 20)...
    W 20:15:06 Retry Failed - Invalid Field in Parameter List
    W 20:15:06 Retrying (18 of 20)...
    W 20:15:06 Retry Failed - Invalid Field in Parameter List
    W 20:15:06 Retrying (19 of 20)...
    W 20:15:06 Retry Failed - Invalid Field in Parameter List
    W 20:15:06 Retrying (20 of 20)...
    W 20:15:06 Retry Failed! - Invalid Field in Parameter List
    W 20:25:12 Failed to Write Sectors 0 - 31 - Invalid Field in Parameter List
    W 20:25:12 Retrying (1 of 20)...
    W 20:25:12 Retry Failed - Invalid Field in Parameter List
    W 20:25:12 Retrying (2 of 20)...
    W 20:25:12 Retry Failed - Invalid Field in Parameter List
    W 20:25:12 Retrying (3 of 20)...
    W 20:25:12 Retry Failed - Invalid Field in Parameter List
    W 20:25:12 Retrying (4 of 20)...
    W 20:25:12 Retry Failed - Invalid Field in Parameter List
    W 20:25:12 Retrying (5 of 20)...
    W 20:25:12 Retry Failed - Invalid Field in Parameter List
    W 20:25:12 Retrying (6 of 20)...
    W 20:25:12 Retry Failed - Invalid Field in Parameter List
    W 20:25:12 Retrying (7 of 20)...
    W 20:25:12 Retry Failed - Invalid Field in Parameter List
    W 20:25:12 Retrying (8 of 20)...
    W 20:25:12 Retry Failed - Invalid Field in Parameter List
    W 20:25:12 Retrying (9 of 20)...
    W 20:25:12 Retry Failed - Invalid Field in Parameter List
    W 20:25:12 Retrying (10 of 20)...
    W 20:25:12 Retry Failed - Invalid Field in Parameter List
    W 20:25:12 Retrying (11 of 20)...
    W 20:25:12 Retry Failed - Invalid Field in Parameter List
    W 20:25:12 Retrying (12 of 20)...
    W 20:25:12 Retry Failed - Invalid Field in Parameter List
    W 20:25:12 Retrying (13 of 20)...
    W 20:25:12 Retry Failed - Invalid Field in Parameter List
    W 20:25:12 Retrying (14 of 20)...
    W 20:25:12 Retry Failed - Invalid Field in Parameter List
    W 20:25:12 Retrying (15 of 20)...
    W 20:25:12 Retry Failed - Invalid Field in Parameter List
    W 20:25:12 Retrying (16 of 20)...
    W 20:25:12 Retry Failed - Invalid Field in Parameter List
    W 20:25:12 Retrying (17 of 20)...
    W 20:25:12 Retry Failed - Invalid Field in Parameter List
    W 20:25:12 Retrying (18 of 20)...
    W 20:25:12 Retry Failed - Invalid Field in Parameter List
    W 20:25:12 Retrying (19 of 20)...
    W 20:25:12 Retry Failed - Invalid Field in Parameter List
    W 20:25:12 Retrying (20 of 20)...
    W 20:25:12 Retry Failed! - Invalid Field in Parameter List
    E 20:25:56 Failed to Write Sectors 0 - 31 - Invalid Field in Parameter List
    I 20:25:56 Synchronising Cache...
    E 20:25:56 Failed to Write Image!
    E 20:25:57 Operation Failed! - Duration: 00:10:52
    I 20:25:57 Average Write Rate: N/A - Maximum Write Rate: N/A

    Thanks for all the support!
     
  6. Jerry746

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    I'm guessing your problem is during the burning process. The main reason I see is listed under the blank disc ID. [bold]CMC MAG[/bold] is known to produce cheap/poor quality blanks, some of the worst on the market. Try switching to a better well know brand like TY, Ritek, or Verbatim. That should help.


    Jerry
     
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  7. l8nights

    l8nights Guest

    @wildrice this might be your only problem
    this media (blank disc) is the worst type of media you could find very unreliable media try verbatim data life plus or maxell as both of these are affordable reliable media try it out and tell us how it goes good luck
     
  8. l8nights

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    great minds think alike.. and then I decrypt them and burn them back onto the best of media..A.D. forums!
    (look at the time's hmmm?tie)
     
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  9. creaky

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    @wildrice -

    - i homed in on the firmware before i looked down the log and saw the CMC media (shudders), or the other guys' replies. Anyway, after finding some info on the possible firmware versions, i gave up trying to figure it out -

    LiteOn SOSW-852S
    • P9S2 - stock (2004/06/24) (no +R DL)
    • PS01 - stock (2004/06/28)
    • PSF2 - stock (2004/06/28) (no +R DL)
    • PRS7 - stock (2004/07/14) (no +R DL)
    • PCS3 - stock (2004/08/13)
    • PSX1 - stock (2004/09/21)
    • PST3 - stock (2004/10/15)
    • PRS9 - stock (2004/10/19)
    • 6S07 - stock (2004/10/21) (6x max.)
    • P3S4 - stock (2004/11/22)
    • PSX3 - stock (2004/12/30)


    Sony DW-D56A (rebadged LiteOn SOSW-852S)
    • PYS1 - stock (2004/09/24)
    • PDS3/PDS6/PDS7 - stock (2005/07/01) (Dell OEM)
    • PFS1/PFS2/PFS3 - stock (2005/05/27) (Vaio OEM) (newer than PDS7)


    - i certainly wouldn't even even bother trying to figure out which one might be the newest. stick to the other guys' suggestions re getting better media, and avoid that CMC stuff like the plague..
     
  10. Rotary

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    hi

    yes a big ERMMM? at this drive Destination Device: [1:0:0] Slimtype DVDRW SOSW-852S PSD1

    and a big ERMMM at cmc mag too
     
  11. wildrice

    wildrice Guest

    Ok Ok Ok on the media, but I have produced nothing less than 25-30 perfect copies on the same type of media (PHILLIPS DVD-R) and now I tried these new ones which are (MEMOREX DVD-R). I am seriously disgussed because for the longest time I had no problems and now I have started doing things differantly like using the guide that "ReZips" listed. I figured this was the proper way just more steps.

    Also I noticed the EERRRMMMM from "ROTARY" is the drive I am using a pile? Would it be the problem and can someone help me update the firmware?
     
  12. Jerry746

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    I'm not sure how Phillips media stacks up as far as quality goes. Memorex on the other hand at present time is usually junk. They buy blanks from many different manufacturers and put the Memorex name on them. The problem with this is you never know if you will get a good batch or bad batch of Memorex. Right now they seem to be buying a lot of CMC MAG blanks which are just about the worst blanks on the market. These are the ones you happen to get. Expect a 50% or more failure rate with them. The ones you do get to burn may only last about 6 months before they start to have playback problems. I don't know which guides you are using. Check the guide tab at the page top for the programs you are using. Also both Scubapete and BBmayo have excellent guides on their sites but I don't have the links in front of me. I'll find them and add the links as an edit later.

    First link is Scubapete's site.
    Second link is BBmayo's site

    http://www.dvdplusvideo.com/tutorial007.html
    http://home.comcast.net/~bbmayo/index.html

    Jerry
     
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  13. Rotary

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    hi

    the ermmm wasnt a stab at your drive being a pile, it was not herad of that drive, but could be good? just errmmm not sure on that drive, as all us on ad see lots of burners and personally i wouldnt know if good or indiffeent.

    but on the discs as jerry and others say they suck pants and as jerry says again they may degrade in time (i have been there)
     
  14. creaky

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    hiya Rotary, wildrice started his own thread so i copied the puzzling firmware selections over there in case it needed upgrading - http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/214817

    but as i say, there's no pattern in the naming convention in the firmware choices, other than they don't make sense :)
     
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  16. wildrice

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    Creaky, Jerry, SMSMike and Rotary let me just I really appreciate all your support and extremely helpful wealth of knowledge and advise to all my stomppers.

    I was reading through some of the replies and did a little research or shall I say trial and error development. I also need to really thank (smsmike), because of what he posted in one of the threads. He made mention of using DVDD in ISO vs. FILE mode. Well let's just say I wasn't on the right track before. I must of read that particular thread 10x and after a little fiddling around and putting several pieces of many puzzles together I am on the right track and have successfully backed up about 6 differant titles (HITCH/XXX/HOSTAGE/PRECINCT13) just to name a few and have tested them all on my PC and DVD player.

    My first attempt was with XXX, but the weird thing was I received an error from SHRINK stating unable to burn @ 8X, but it also stated burn rate 4X and finished the burn @ what looked like 4X??? I am positive that my burn rate was set no higher than 3X, because in SHRINK I disabled the (Enable overlapped I/O) function thinking this might be a problem due to media and giving me another tool to be able to burn @ a slower rate. On my second backup Office Space I used a Memorex CMC doing nothing differant than the first backup. Let's just say it was a no go with Memorex after 2 seperate attempts. Next I used another type of media a Phillips CMC and it was a successful backup and burn baby burn it did.

    I am sure I lost alot of you through my little story, but the moral is I seem to be on the right track and successful for time being. although I have decided to stop playing with crap media and purchased a pack of Verb's. I was merely interested in testing all the media first to see if all the hype was true and my conclusion is Memorex is junk and Phillips is not worth the trouble and Verb's are a go so far. I will post Mike's thread from the "Need Help with Hitch" thread which is in DVD+R for Newbies forum.

    Again thanks a million!!!!!!!!



    SMSMIKE-

    I was reading through the replies to this topic and was a bit taken back by some of the advice. First, I can't understand why anyone would use ISO mode for anything what so ever. It make no sense to convert from File Mode (which the disks are formatted in) to ISO mode. That conversion is just asking for trouble. If you just stick with the defaults (File Mode) in Decrypter and Shrink, you will have No Problems with either of the programs.

    Second, I have never found a New Movie Disk that DVD Decrypter could not copy to my Hard Drive properly. I have, however, found a few disks that my DRIVES could not read all the way through. Normally, at least One of my Five Drives will read even a disk with bad factory flaws, but sometimes none of them will. The fault has NEVER been DVD Decrypter. Given a good disk, it will ALWAYS read the material and break the protection. It has never, EVER failed to do that in the two years I have been backing up DVD's. with that program, and I have well over 400 titles in my collection. I use it "Exclusively" as my first step in the backup process.

    The Never Fail process is as follows

    1. Copy the entire disk to your Hard Drive with DVD Decrypter.
    2. Select your files from the VIDEO_TS folder and then compress them using DVD Shrink
    3. Burn the resulting VIDEO_TS folder to your backup disk using Nero.

    Folks, It's just that simple, and it will NEVER fail to produce a working copy of your movie.

    I have used factory second, bargain basement disks of the worst possible kind and STILL produced backups that played perfectly. I don't make a habit of using cheap disks, but I have used them with very good results.

    People, just do NOT try to over complicate the copy process with steps that are just flat NOT NECESSARY. With the three programs, Decrypter, Shrink and Nero, the process is mindless childs play; really...

    - Mike -
     
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  17. creaky

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    @wildrice - phew!, we escaped having to faff with the firmware this time, excellent. And excellent that you'll stay away from bad media in future :)

    happy burning
     

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