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The Pirate Bay was temporarily down for the world today

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Earlier today, pirates were saddened when they tried to reach their haven, The Pirate Bay. For a couple of hours, The Pirate Bay went offline, globally, including proxy sites linked to it. The site is back up now, and there was little word on the downtime, so it can most likely be attributed to technical difficulties. There had been a rumor that ISPs were blocking the site again, ...

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#26
PepePecas Unverified new user
Originally posted by xboxdvl2:
pepepecas if you give someone $50 you shouldnt be able to control what they do with it.
if you sell someone a disc you shouldnt be able to control what they do with the contents on it.
Thats OK, if you sell "your" disc to someone, but after you sell it you lose the property of it (includes copies or backups), sorry but those are the terms on wich you bought it (unless is not, but most), if dont like it dont buy it... and what the guy who you sell it do with it is his problem.

This matter is difficult to compare with physicall stuff, you can made a copy of your $50 bill that you gave, trying to use the copy is illegal and mostly wrong... and really don't recommend you to do it.
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#27
The reason the matter "is difficult to compare with physical stuff", is because it's not the same thing.

Let's review:
- Digital piracy, while arguably wrong/immoral, is not a crime. It's defined as a civil violation (copyright infringement), and is subject to tort law.
- Selling an unauthorized copy is copyright fraud, a crime.
- Copying money is specifically defined as a felony under criminal law, and so is the use of said counterfeit money. Your example is deeply flawed.


tl;dr? Fine. US law says copyright infringement is not a crime. Using anything as an example or metaphor that IS a crime, automatically fails. Please stop. Moral is not necessarily legal, any more than immoral is necessarily illegal. You're harming your own argument by trying to argue for a false equivalency.

P.S. I refer to US law because that's what I'm most familiar with, but most nations with a legal system worth crap are very careful to keep the divide between tort and criminal law.
This message has been edited since its posting. Latest edit was made on 10 Jan 2013 @ 12:51
#28
@Bozobub
Could not have said it better myself.
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