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Apple's stock gets demolished following earnings

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Apple reported its quarterly earnings today, and shareholders took a beating for it. The company beat analyst estimates for earnings per share, but fell short on revenue and in other notable areas. In after hours trading, the stock fell $50 per share, erasing almost $50 billion in company value in just 4 hours. While the company did have a record quarter, including record revenue ...

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#26
No worries, Afterdawn loves this sort of commotion at least; they usually don't post fresh enough material enough to illicit a response, but a nice little junior GI spin touch on the widely reported AAPL ER and people yammer away (e.g. oh apple this and apple that!) :).

Admittedly, I've (in the past) been one of the loudest critics; dislike the product and it's price, new hw standards, boxed iOS etc. But that's all technical. From a financial standpoint, fact: there is no company in better financial shoes and none that takes better care of their shareholder value, despite this zany price action (today's largely caused by margin calls).

And speaking of price action, it too is interesting that wiping away over 200B of a company's market cap does not and will not affect the company itself in the least; those fat cats have more cash flow at 135B than the size of most every other company in the world. If that's not suitable pause for praise, then I don't know what is.

In other news AAPL is now worth less than Exxon-Mobil; guess market guys sees more growth potential in Exxon; maybe they're coming out w/ the next 'IN' device, lol.

If a slow person played the market for just a month, it would be fairly easy to recognize that 'fundamentals' don't have a lot to do w this market; it's just about momentum plays (fear and greed) for those of us at the bottom of the pyramid scheme, nothing more.

Good luck and good day.
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#27
you know... it's almost like Wall Street is punishing aaple (like those before it in top market cap of the world) for NOT messing up by now (like the others e.g. cisco, msft,etc. did); it's like, "this trend has gone on long enough; despite the fact it's a very cheap stock and that they haven't slowed the train enough to warrant as low as even a $600pps, we need to hit the brakes and remind people who is in control". For real, haha!

that is all...
#28
Originally posted by SoTired:
"Continue to focus on innovation?"

Apple hasn't innovated since the iPad came out. They've just been putting new bells and whistles on the same old products for several years.

They've already lost nearly half of their market capitalization in one year. Prospects for this year are looking bleak. Their stockholders have been just as clueless as the fanboys for years, and they're paying the price.
I couldn't agree more with this, and I'd like to add that the reason why they have so much cash is because they WAY overcharge for their lousy products as well as charging for apps you can get for free from the Play store...I couldn't be happier about the news!! :)
#29
"One bad Apple doesnt spoil the whole bunch" The problem with this is the APPLE has turned its products into "Cult-like" items. How many of you out there still think Apple products are immune from virus's and malware? The true fact is that Apple didnt have a big enough market share to make it worth the hackers time to to infect thier products. Every other week I read about new exploits on thier products now. Will keep you posted on my new app called "I-Done". The difference between this this and a nasty virus is that the user has to activate themselves. i really dont expect to sell many, but its my way of telling Apple to go EFF themselves.
BTW, it wont be available through Apples App library, but i will self host it. OK I-Gone for now. Hope my speech is PC enough for the masses??



#30
Originally posted by big_tekka:
Originally posted by SoTired:
"Continue to focus on innovation?"

Apple hasnt innovated since the iPad came out. Theyve just been putting new bells and whistles on the same old products for several years.

Theyve already lost nearly half of their market capitalization in one year. Prospects for this year are looking bleak. Their stockholders have been just as clueless as the fanboys for years, and theyre paying the price.
spoken like a true [non] trader or investor. and I'm not even an aapl product fan; but when you prophetically phrase rhyme and reason to the casino rotation, you sound silly. a record quarter with a woodshed beating because of a. 1 less week YoY in Q4 and light Macbook # due to a late quarter product refresh; the latter alone would have given them a beat on top line too and we wouldn't be having this silly conversation. Fact is, these numbers are the still the best in the biz and it doesn't have sh1t all to do with the tablet market, especially when you consider their ipad sales were impressive this qtr. now go sit down and hush...

if i had a nickel for every dumb, ignorant comment on this thread that is totally unrelated to anything that happened today, Id be rich.
Wow, you really are clueless. I've actually made some decent money short selling Apple this past year. Someday when you have the cajones to put your money on Apple stock, I'll sit back and laugh taking all your money as I continue selling short.

In the meanwhile, good luck getting the trash taken out and whatever other chores your mom needs you to finish doing.
#31
Originally posted by plutonash:
Originally posted by Interestx:
This is what you get when you trade on a high value high spec image without backing it up with actual hardware which fits that image.

Sneering at the competition and talking the talk with nothing to properly back it up will always fail eventually.

Anyone looking at spec/cost can easily see why Samsung are walking away with it - and most recently with LG, and Motorola, Nokia and even Sony now offering better.

Tablets once looked like the next big thing for Apple (and it is true they did well with iPad for a while) but the Android devices are fast eroding that.
Again it's the inevitable result of far too high prices offering little in return when others offer a much better deal.

They brought this on themselves.
While I agree that samsung, htc, nokia, and allegedly LG offer better products. I will say that there's no tablet that comes close to the iPad's intuitive ecosystem and ALSO yields the same amount of profit. The nexus line is a great line for consumers and Google because they gain more marketshare but what company is in the business of selling their tablet and phone at cost or for a few pennies on the dollar. OEMS, especially LG, are doing this just to get consumers loyalty to their brand. I have an LG nexus 4 and with JB, I could possibly try to trust LG with a phone for 2 years, when before I would never conceive of such a notion in the first place. But the bright side is that low cost tablets are bringing costs of the iDevices down gradually.
They offer better products in terms of hardware.

The Iphone5 has only just gone to a duel core CPU, the next lot of samsung devices will be 8 core CPUs and the other android devices are already duelcore or at or going to 4 core cpu devices.

The screen size will matter to many people because if you have everything only on the screen like the app plus the keyboard and status icons you'll want larger screens than what an apple device offers.

The tablet well probably a waste of time in general will people use them yes for sure but will everyone no because they are just an expanded phone device.
#32
Originally posted by big_tekka:
No worries, Afterdawn loves this sort of commotion at least; they usually don't post fresh enough material enough to illicit a response, but a nice little junior GI spin touch on the widely reported AAPL ER and people yammer away (e.g. oh apple this and apple that!) :).
*cough* "Elicit". Grammar Nazi hoist on own petard = joy. Thank you for making my beer taste better.
#33
Originally posted by SoTired:

Wow, you really are clueless. I've actually made some decent money short selling Apple this past year. Someday when you have the cajones to put your money on Apple stock, I'll sit back and laugh taking all your money as I continue selling short.

In the meanwhile, good luck getting the trash taken out and whatever other chores your mom needs you to finish doing.
interesting conclusion, because your inferences, ad hominems, and deductive reasoning skills indicate low IQ and a terrible table side manner unbefitting social relationships in general; thus befitting a place w/ perhaps the mechanics at play of a Yahoo investment message board.

To be abundantly clear, In no way did I indicate my personal trading style or limited to a long side, or post armchair QB analysis simply because I'm a greater predictor after the fact, lol. But seriously, who says I don't engage in short positions? or Bear put spreads for that matter,or other caps?


Now stick a fork in my because mom's calling and I need to back in the kitchen, interesting person(s) ;) #done

Originally posted by Bozobub:
Originally posted by big_tekka:
No worries, Afterdawn loves this sort of commotion at least; they usually don't post fresh enough material enough to illicit a response, but a nice little junior GI spin touch on the widely reported AAPL ER and people yammer away (e.g. oh apple this and apple that!) :).
*cough* "Elicit". Grammar Nazi hoist on own petard = joy. Thank you for making my beer taste better.


Yessir, it is confirmed! I make grammatical errors, but I guess at least not the worst kinds, and not in the worst context for swift, ironic rebuttal. nevertheless, you gents/gals win... this is too much senseless conversation time waste. keep kicking butt l33t afterdawners! I miss you.

p.s. Down with [still] the richest, most successful company of all time whom indeed creates grossly overpriced merchandise (which sells well). :)


This message has been edited since its posting. Latest edit was made on 26 Jan 2013 @ 22:01
#34
Originally posted by xtago:


The tablet well probably a waste of time in general will people use them yes for sure but will everyone no because they are just an expanded phone device.


Biggest product evolution since the autonomous smartphone, and personal computer before that. Still more than half of the market share on the back of so many competitors now, like the superior Nexus line of Jellybean tabs which even costs less.

Yeah, nobody likes it and it really shows lack of innovation, I totally agree; wait...

...

Is it totally abstract thought here to have personal product preferences and yet respect a best in class business? Apparently so.
This message has been edited since its posting. Latest edit was made on 26 Jan 2013 @ 22:11
#35
You'll notice I said nothing good or bad about Apple in this context; I hardly give a flying crap in a windstorm. Fanbois and fangrrls on both sides of your argument are exactly as annoying as each other, and yes, that includes you. I merely find it amusing when someone tries to establish their overweening, throbbing intelligence by impugning others' grammar and/or spelling, then commits the same errors themselves.

In other words, don't be a silly, yammering twit, much as you're claiming of the various respondents to your posts, then expect to not be called on it. That's called "hypocrisy", if you weren't aware.

And last, would you mind not double-posting? It's not only against site rules, it's completely unnecessary. The "Edit" button is there for a reason.

Edit --> It also kind of ruins your dramatic "unsubscribing" from the thread, to post a reply immediately after. But I guess silly is, as silly does.
This message has been edited since its posting. Latest edit was made on 26 Jan 2013 @ 23:32
#36
Originally posted by big_tekka:

Is it totally abstract thought here to have personal product preferences and yet respect a best in class business? Apparently so.

Not for me, but what's the business with Apple only just paying dividends for the first time not long ago? How does that work?


Its a lot easier being righteous than right.


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