dvd±rw/-ram format

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  1. maxwell_1

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    i'm looking 4 good sftwre 4 4matting dvd±rws and dvd-ram disks. i don't want 2 use incd. i've tried dla (sonic) and bha. dla only formats in udf2.0 which can't b read on my other comp (i've got ver 511213 of udfreader ; i think its the most recent). bha is great ; it lets me format in both 1.5 and 2.0 udf as well as fat32 but i don't want that virtual drive crap. does anyone of another formatting utility. a hybrid of dla and bha would b great - all 3 file systems w/o that removable drive ;0) thx, maxwell
     
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    i should probably add 2 the previous that i have dvd-ram drives in both comps and both r running 98se. any help would b appreciated. i've been scouring the net for days
     
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    ...haven't been back 4 36hrs ; found my post on pg 4. its been my expierence that if it makes it 2 pg2 w/o a reply, u can kiss it good-bye. i guess i'll figure it out on my own. keep scrounging the net. thx, anyway
     
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    i don't know how long its been since i checked this thread ; i had 2 finally do a search 2 find it. while looking, i found a thread that was closed. naturally, i had 2 check it out. it was a noobie asking about ripping rentals. the rest of the thread was people admonishing and defending him arguing back and forth. (of course, the people chastising him were right. we all know what we do and don't do and we should also know what we say and what we don't. admitting 2 a felony isn't smart.) the people defending him had a point 2 ; u want 2 make a noobie feel welcome.

    long story short - not getting one single bit of help w/my problem doesn't make me feel very welcome.
     
  5. Auslander

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    using numerical symbols (i.e., "2" and "4") creates an often-times confusing and jumbled blob of writing and scares away those who might help for fear that they won't perceive your query as intended. if you're searching for free help, have the decency to write out your words in a grammatically correct and understandable fashion. let's not have any crap about, "that's the way we talk online these days," or anything of that type. i'm 17, and i'm responding to you in a universal English format, not the techno-jargon of a social forum. no insult or provocation intended, this is just a friendly suggestion to maximize your results.

    that said, what is your purpose in formatting the discs? you can do a clean erase with Nero, and whenever you write to the disc it should be formatted as necessary by your authoring/writing program. more information would be helpful.
     
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    i know u don't want 2 hear it, but everyone does it. the use of internet shorthand and the avoidance of the use of caps is common practice. the use of 2 for to,two and too, etc is tame [and far less confusing] as compared 2 the solecisms, misspellings, poor grammer, etc withwhich the forums r wrought. when i run in2 these things when at any forum from gaming 2 technical, i do my best 2 decipher the post if i feel that i can b of any help.
     
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    caps aren't necessary, and as you might have noticed, a few of the higher-ups here don't use them. it slows typing and (supposedly) reading speeds. but as for shorthand, just don't use it. typical english contractions (i.e., "don't") are fine, as they are typical english and that is the preferred manner of communication in the english forums. remember, AfterDawn is no typical forum. most of the moderators and adminstrators here are a cut above the rest, and such behavior is expected from all the members.

    so, please, for the sake of sanity, type as though you were writing a letter to your grandmother, not your 'net buddy on an online game.

    p.s.
    your grammar, correct spelling, and attention to detail are all noted and appreciated. that still places you higher than many of the new-comers around here.
     
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    to contact my grandmother, maternal or paternal, i'd need a medium. by the way, i'm sure the mods here are great but calling them "a cut above" does an injustice to all the rest of the fine mods out there. i would also like to thank you for not pointing out the irony of my pointing out the vast existence of solecisms at these forums, then using the word "wrought" when it should have been "fraught".

    btw - i hope you noticed and appreciated the lack of the use of shorthand in this post.
     
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    just so that you know, maxwell, i neither was nor am trying to create a conflict with you--i was simply trying to ensure certain standards. your lack of the use of shorthand is greatly appreciated.

    now, back to your formatting query. did you ever find a program that worked for your needs? what were your specific needs in formatting?
     
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    i never thought you were creating conflict, Auslander. no conflict, contention, animosity, enmity or ill will - just people typin' ;0) (in my case, typing and watching prom night II at the same time. not watching anything now - burning twin peaks.)

    no, i'm still looking.


    as far as what i'm looking for, i covered it at the beginning of the thread but i'll go into it more thoroughly. i don't like incd [or n_e_r_o, at all, for that matter]. i've tried 2 others, i'll describe them briefly in case you're not familiar w/them: bha was one. its great because it offers you 3 options of file systems withwhich to format - udf 2.0, udf 1.5 and fat32. its [huge] drawback is that it creates a virtual drive. for simplicities sake, you have one hd, one cdrom and a dvd burner (c: d: e:). after installing bha, d: is now a removable drive, e: is now your cdrom and f: is now your burner. so, d: and f: are both your burner. you access dvd±rw/-ram thru d: (removable disk) and all other disks thru f:. there are so many things wrong with that that i won't go into them all. suffice it to say that the autorun files and icons i create for my disks are useless since removable drives aren't autoload and, since it is a removable disk, isobuster can never access your rewritable media.

    the other is dla (direct letter access). it was developed by veritas but its open code so everyone makes it. i tried ibm's version but it wouldn't install. (i didn't feel like hacking the cabs since its probably the same as sonic's ver, which is what i did installed.) i got sonic off a setup disk from a dvd burner i put in for someone recently. dla's fault is that it can only format in udf 2.0 and the most recent version of adaptec's udfreader can't read 2.0 ; it can only read 1.5.

    so, what i want to know is:

    1.) is there a version of dla that can create udf 1.5, or
    2.) is there a hybrid of dla and bha. ie, can format in the 3 file systems listed above but w/o the rediculious removable disk, or
    3.) is there any software that can format a disk in udf 1.5 that can be read on comps w/o that software installed.

    i won't go into why i want udf 1.5 ; this post is already too long. i should point out that i rarely use dvd±rw's, they're way to unreliable so i'm mostly concerned w/formatting dvd-ram disks.
     
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    hmmm...i won't be able to help you with this, as it is out of my limited area of expertise, but i do suggest you send a private message to ddp, our very own god of technology, and ask him about this. if he can't help you, jesus christ himself would just shake his head at your request and walk away.
     
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    i've been watching this thread from the beginning, and i'm still not sure what to suggest...
     
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    alas, creaky, that's why you're not quite yet the god that ddp is. apprentice under him, learn the ways of the force and the dark side, and become a master, Darth Creakster.
     
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    ok young padawan :O

    teach & learn
     
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    you're learning well, young jedi. your master should be very proud of you.
     
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    Solecism? Christ, I just had to look that up!


    A deflated pulsar.


    Due to a restricted knowledge of the English language.
     
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    if you come from an American public school (like me), that's all you're gonna have unless you're lucky enough to have a good english teacher...i've had one, and i've taken every class of his because he is retiring and i feel as though he could be the best teacher i've ever had the pleasure of learning under, save ddp :)
     
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    in this area, you want somebody who is more into burning disks as i use roxio 5 platnium doing data cds. try talking to scubapete or kivory666 to see what they suggest & also check the guides & software tabs above as the info might be there you are looking for. i'm more hardware that software tho can get by in the software side. & thankyou auslander for the compliment i think!!
     
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    yeah, i checked the guides and software here and just about everywhere else. i'm fast burning all the resources. the guides here are great, though. as someone said here, people should go there before posting (but then there wouldn't be as many amusing threads).

    what i've been doing as a stopgap, is installing bha to format in udf 1.5 then uninstalling and installing dla. i'm running 98se so i don't have that nifty "system restore" which i've used often on other comps and aren't very impressed with anyway. i have two excellent hd/registry snapshot utilities so i have records of every file and reg entry every proggy i've ever installed creates so, i can completely remove software w/o having to rely on the highly flawed uninstalls that come w/most software when one exists at all.

    i may just stick w/this method anyway since it only takes a few mins and i can format enough disks at one time to last a long time.
     
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    actually win98se which i'm using does have have something similar to system restore of xp as i've had to use it once when infected by a virus
     

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