Wow the FBI (Frustrated Bunggulars Incoperated) or (F#chin Bad Information)acully did some thing that they think worked ... the reason no-one is carring the story is because they want to do it agaian.... everyone will be a whole lot more aware of this and will be more carefull in which country they post stuff... isnt the FBI the same group who cant find that 6foot tall Saudie thats hooked up to a dialyes machine.. running around in the desert? so who really helped them... because they couldnt do it on their own.....well its to bad those guys got nailed but it sure sounds like intrapment to me if they rented them the space to post their warez .....

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and its a low blow to everyone around the world that in the CIA round up over the Itailin Papers that none of the fbi were included... they need to be rounded up and flogged. our goverment being what it is..( liers cheaters and theives.) have got alot to answer for ... I only hope that war crime charges are handed down in a few years for the attack on a soverjen nation who did not attack us... and that Bushes name is at the top of that list for lieing to the american nation and the world ... what would be great if tony blair filed the papers with Nato to arrest GW himself....

I don't think they will ever learn, I guess. Actions like this only makes more people want to help "share the ware(z)", and I don't believe it actually makes much of a difference in the stuff offered. I'm curious which other groups got caught...

I think instead of going after guys like this they should concentrate on going after the murderers, child molestors and child killers, i think our government will become more after the general public than the criminals thats already apparent. I was born in the US but as more time goes on it makes me wonder how much the government will push their rules on us. This country is messed up i can say that honestly. Our government officials get damn good retirement pay and these idiots are living the good life at our expense. They need to spend more time on crucial issues instead of trying to go after some guy or girl trying to have some fun. I feel that as long as a person does not sell what they download or share then they should just leave them alone. I mean after all if you buy a movie, you let friends and family members share the movie or you may even sell the movie to that person does that make it illegal? So many issues so little time. It seems they want to make most of us criminals but honestly there are more important issues at hand. If some crackpot FBI agency set me up just to get me arrested i would be suing the crap out of them but then again they are callous and cold just ask Leonard Peltier...shame shame shame on our government what a F**k up. They want to give anyone a bad rap if they cant find the guilty person but thats a whole other ballgame isnt it? For those of you who dont know about Leonard just read up on his story sometime the man got a very bad rap in more ways than one he got screwed basically. How does this relate to the article? Simple be careful you dont turn your back on the FBI you might get shot or stabbed then no one will know what happened to you....these are my opinions only and i have the right to freedom of speech the day that freedom is lost hi ho ill move to canada...then i can smoke legally....hehehehehehe Melissa aka Midnight

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Well it looks like someone slipped throught the net (no pun intended) Warez will live forever!

Hey guys I had to register to post this but I confirmed that 2 members of centropy and at least one member of saosin was arrested in the raid Ill get back with more news and link in about an hour greetz centropy you are a true scene player and fuck the FBI (Fancy Bittorent ingnorance) FBI needs to get a life and stop the nuke situation

lofl at everybody acting like they know something. You'd all be shitting your pants and crying if the FBI came calling...and that's before mommy took away the xbox.

and just a lil fyi, there are like 10 or 9 other countries involved in this, including australia, some int he middle east, and europian countries

God Bless America.

Viva Piracy!

Just a few years ago, I had nothing against the movie industry. I had no problem with them going after people who pirated media. With all the crap they've pulled over the past few years though, I've got the mind to rip every DVD (and, heck, VHS tape too) I have and share as much as I can. When they just targeted people trying to make a profit on something they didn't create it was one thing. Now, they are going after decent people whose only crime is liking a movie enough to share it with their friends or download it to check it out before they spend hard-earned money on it. I know I'm not the only person to think this way. It's their own fault that the money spent on movies has gone down. If they'd stop suing their customers maybe one of them could afford to go to the movies or buy a DVD again! That is, if there's even a movie worth seeing anymore. They've done a lot more damage to themselves than piracy ever could.

Let's be reasonable here. Theft is wrong any way you look at it. BUT, backing up movies that we own is not theft, notwithstanding whatever laws the US (Con)gress has been fooled into passing. Neither is sharing the movies that we own (what, I can't loan out my books either?), which, from what I have read, actually leads to sales. No, theft is going into a theatre, recording a movie and selling that recording. I'm darn glad that's illegal! Grow the hell up and be patient, you children out there and wait until the quality DVD comes out, which you can then decrypt, make an archived copy, which you can share with your friends, who may decide to buy. That keeps the movie makers going, Verbatim going, LUK! going, don't say it!, and our forum going.
But come on! If you created a sculpture that everyone wanted, and someone came along and mass produced it and sold it without sharing with you their prfits, would you not be just slightly peeved? Well, it's the same with a hundred thousand people downloading a theatre-recored movie. [B]IT'S JUST PLAIN WRONG[/B]
[QUOTE]THE FATE OF ALL MANKIND, I FEAR, IS IN THE HANDS OF FOOLS.[/QUOTE]
(King Crimson)

QUOTE: nonoitall: "Now, they are going after decent people whose only crime is liking a movie enough to share it with their friends or download it to check it out before they spend hard-earned money on it. I know I'm not the only person to think this way."

Damn straight. You know, it's funny, about 60% of the dvds I own are from movies I downloaded in the first place and wouldn't have bothered paying to see or rent. The mpaa cries millions of dollars lost in revenue each year, but they're not counting profits from dvd, just ticket sales. How much of a spike in profit do you think they've seen in the past 5 years since dvds have become mainstream?

Almost once a week I hear in the media that "there's is the biggest slump in movie sales since the mid ninties" No shit? With the price of big screen high definition televisions such as plasmas and lcds going down in price each month, and movies being released on dvd 2 months after they were in the theater, why deal with the over priced tickets and annoying audiences when you can enjoy it from the comfort of your home?

It's like when the RIAA goes off on internet piracy for lack of sales, and yet time and time again critics say "I doubt piracy is the cause of bad album sales, bad albums are the cause of bad album sales" Did you hear from the RIAA when Usher sold 1.1 million copies of his cd in one week, last year, at the height of the riaa's allegations.

Bottom line is, I don't agree with stealing movies for a profit, but the mpaa really needs to pick their battles and question if the sharing of films online has really hurt their business. In my opinion, they should consider it free advertising and thank us all.

you know why the movie industry is losing money?

because they insist on paying people who can't act ridiculous amounts of money to be in a stupid movie that noone wants to see in the first place.

because they spend ridiculous amounts of money to remake movies that were good the first time around and I repeat, pay people who can't act ridiculous amounts of money.

because they think that just because a rapper is selling lots of cds, people are gonna pay to see him/her in a bad movie that they spent ridiculous amounts of money on advertising and promotions only to have it pulled from theaters a week after it's release.


did I forget the ridiculous amount of money part?

I agree. It used to be that I'd almost always go to the theater at least once a month. Now I hardly ever go. Aside from Star Wars episode III, the most recent movie I've seen in a theater was probably Spiderman 2. And when did that come out - like a year ago?

It's obvious that the movie industry's focus is no longer making good movies, but making good profits. Unfortunately, they don't understand that good movies and not suing their fans bring in more profit than poorly written, amateurishly directed, unprofessionally acted movies and launching legal attacks on what few customers they have left. They're destroying themselves and pointing the finger at file sharing in a desperate attempt to sue back the millions they've squandered. It's not "Give the script-writer what they want," "Give the director what they want," "Give the actor what they want," or "Give the producer what they want." It's "Give the customer what they want." They have completely disregarded that very important business rule.

I think that we are all forgetting just how much money is involved in the movie and music industries. At this level there is much power and greed and law enforcement agencies will pander to the power. This will never change. So look out! Ultimately its still wrong to rip although we all do it to some extent.

Congress has forgotten ours is a nation to be governed by the people for the people.

They have forgotten that people vote, not corporations or the mpaa.

They make laws now at the whim of the elite, nevermind it is not for the public good.

Alas it will continue until the people send the politicos a message at the voting box. Then of course the cowards will switch sides !

Never vote for an incumbant ever ! And, never ever vote for a lawyer.

Boycott Hollywood movies. I shall never pay for one again. They charge more and more for less and less so they can pay hot shot actors 20 million a pop. Screw that noise !

This is evidenced by the serious drop at the box office in the last 12 months. I mean they expect people to pay to see that garbage ?

Of course THEY will blame it on piracy !

What a joke. They haven't got a clue do they ?

wow look at all the ranting and raving about this!!! Don't you know that nothing will be accomplished with just talk!!? ok.... will there be change in this country...... all the time...... will there be new leaders doing the same thing that our fathers did before them? Yes! There will always be croocked poloticians everywhere! Money talks, Bull sh-t walks! And where there is money there are laws to make the rich richer! Every time we elect new people into the government they want to make their mark on society! It's a game to them! They make new laws.... are they good laws..... who knows ...... but every year taxes go up or they take away our deductions on the premise that "we haven't raised taxes"! Does it matter..... NO!~ We as a nation don't have a say at all...... it's the elected officials that have all the power and they get the good life when they retire..... poor slobs like us have to slave away our lives to get anything and they have their hands in the pie to make things hard on us! But there is only one thing we keep forgeting! THIS COUNTY IS THE BEST IN THE WORLD! I WOULDN'T WANT TO LIVE ANYWHERE ELSE! The USA with all it's faults is the place to be and you can tell cause everyone fights to get here! I love this country and what it stands for..... but there are too many rules and regulations that change with the wind direction that make everyone nervous! Why come down on people that pirate things...... because it upsets THEIR apple cart! Even if it's just a little.... they know they can't stop everyone but they have to set an example that even the little man will be put away if you break the law! And there are many laws we dont' even know about! Now, with the National Security laws, they can put you away and call you a terrorist if you wear your mustache too long and lock you away and throw the key in the sewer,FOR ANY REASON THEY CHOOSE!..... YOU HAVE NO RIGHTS ANYMORE! So when they lock up people that pirate movies/music they are sending a message...... DON'T f....... WITH US! They have the power we don't! It's that simple...... but I wouldn't want to live anywhere else!~ At least we can complain about it!

I am up in Canada and I just saw that our government got in on this as well. That is strange because our federal courts have ruled that downloading isn't different from having a photo copier in a library. The issue is yet to be heard by our Supreme Court. Now, frankly, most of the stuff available for download is of rather poor quality, especially the cam stuff. If you like the movie, you will buy it, rent it or copy it when it comes out on DVD. DVD sales and rentals outstrip movie attendence anyway and that's where the money is. What is of true concern, this will undermine if not destroy the betamax decision. What's next? Will dvd writers be removed from computers? Will DVD recorders and VHS recorders be withdrawn from the market? Here's an idea for the whining multi billion dollar entertainment industry, put a good quality film on line at the same time you release your movie and charge a reasonable price for the download, let's say the price of a dvd rental. If I have a guarantee that this movie will be an excellent digital reproduction in a language I speak, I will pay to download it. Do not expect me to mortgage my house to go see it in a theatre, I won't. Don't make me wait a year before I can get it on DVD, I will always be able to get a pirated version no matter what you do. Step up to the plate jerks, this is the information age. If you want your intellectual property protected, set up some electronic distribution of your own. You will make a killing. It will be the only decent thing you have made in years. You people piss me off. Sorry about the rant afterdawn people, I am contacting my politicians on Monday (Today is Canada Day) and I am going to raise hell. There is no Patriot Act up here and the RCMP cannot trample on my civil liberties and get away with it.

i have to agree with all on this topic. I mean free stuff is great, and legal stuff is great. But why bring the fbi into a matter that is harmless to all. its not like where killing each other cause we want the lates copy of starwars! why not look at imagration for a chance? homeland security? half of these fbi fruit cakes have never even served in the military let alone used a computer. and im sure 1 out of 10 cant even make there own coffee. the internet is becoming more and more like driving your car down the street now days. " dont drive to fast or you'll get pulled over." Seriously i can think of way better things then to arrest people and give then 25 to life for downloading a movie. "inmate 5701" "what are you in here for , im here cause i raped a 12 yr old girl and sodamized a dog. "inmate cpu1357354135" "i downloaded a few movies and some albums for the kids" talk about mess up society. anyways you all have a great day. and dont let the feds run up in your house or you will be talking to inmate 5701 soon enough.

(Blessedon);

Confusion... (Micro$oft) will be our (AfterDawners) ....Epitaph.

As we crawl... (endure the never-ending corporate greed, corruption and bullshit) ....a cracked and broken path.

If we make it, (past DRM), we can all sit back and laugh.

But I fear, tomorrow I'll be crying. (Win-Xp; Longhorn) Yes I fear, tomorrow we'll be crying .....

piracy will never die,there is too much money involved
so they should quit while they are ahead.
simple as

fear t3h bill gates and his remote control shower.

jesus....!! ,klingon,your scary....:))

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