I'm going to start off by posting what I thought were key features though out this thread, then ask my questions in the next thread.
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The first a foremost is that everybody should have read the first page. To, if nothing else, have got the message of how this works. Especially thanks to "pizzag", or we wouldn't even be here.
http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_jump.cfm/499497/3017630
Notice that in the picture showing the AC TO DC adapter that he is only using one that is 300mA. If you use anything higher, you run the risk of burning things up. Not that I have burned a ps3, but through the years of trial and error, I have burned alot of stuff up using the wrong amperage. Even just using batteries can be to much amperage. I think that the average AA battery holds 200mA. Put 2 of those together and you have 400mA. (This is what leads me to my number 1. question, which I will ask in the question thread.) If your wondering what amps to use. The lower the better. 100mA (100 milliamp) is lower than 1A (1amp).
Then check out "tsrps3" thread on page 4:
http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_jump.cfm/499497/3121109
Which has much better pictures, and also shows a way to keep you from having to drill a hole in your ps3. He only uses the 1 switch method. I prefer to use the 2 switch method. (one 4pole switch, and an on off on switch)
Which comes the next thread on page 17, Thanks to "alien1201"
http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_jump.cfm/499497/3323770
I just like the idea that you can't forget where you are as far as original settings or manual, and that way you can't burn any boards. I've seen in alot of the videos that is in this thread, that people can't seem to remember what their settings switch is in. They flip the switch, then flip it back, before they eject, or after.
Then I really like how people found ways to make the switch(s) look good. Like putting it into the "PS3 FAN" that "alien1201" did, or the "PS3 Air Flo Cooler" that "ChokeDYou" used on page 6:
http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_jump.cfm/499497/3152115
Even though the "PS3 Air Flo Cooler" isn't selling so well because of the sounds it makes, but it does look good. Then I read somewhere in here, (no offense if I don't reference to it) not to use the fan because they will blow dust into your unit and cause it to decompose after awhile. No offense, but any idiot knows that you are suppose to clean out your electronics after 6 months to a year anyways with an air compressor, a can of air that you buy at an office supply store, or a paint brush if you don't have the air. And if your really so worried about the fan putting dust into your unit then get an air filter, put it between the fan, and the unit. The filter would probably only run you an extra usd .25 cents. Get one of those filters for smokeless ashtrays. It might prolong the life of the fan, and the unit. The fan probably wouldn't make as much noise either.
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The next subject after the "making of the mod" I think should be about the time it takes to swap discs. Now let me point out that as later on as this thread progressed, no one is reading the entire post. It took me well over 24 hours to read them all. All 501 threads, or so on. (yes I'm a slow reader, but I like to get all the details)
The point I am about to make is this: No one has said that they have screwed up their unit due to taking out the disc too early.
The problems started when "Spender85" on page 4 stated:
Originally posted by Spender85:
Correct me if I'm wrong but what is happening is that an original PS2 disc is used to bring up the splash screen on the XMB and then the disc stops spinning. The switch is pulled, the discs are swapped and away we go.
and on page 7 "loglog84"
Originally posted by loglog84:
QUESTION: Does it work on 1.81v?
and will it scratch the Blueray laser by any chance?
Any one that has a portable CD player and looked in it while it was playing knows that the lens
NEVER touches the disc. (and yes there was a problem with disc getting scratched on ps2's due to the lens chamber, but the lens never touched the disc, and alot of ps2 games and ps2's got replaced due to the mishaps) So therefore you can't scratch your lens with ejecting your disc.
Then
EVERYBODY toward the end of this post must have read this thread from "viks" on page 8, and paniced:
Originally posted by viks:
PAY ATTENTION EVERYBODY
for all the people in this forum:
First, i would like to give Pizzag congratulations for his creativity, but i need to WARNING everybody that this swap mod kills the Blue Ray Laser unit.I´m a PSX and PS2 Modder for quite some years, and when i first read this post i was so glad, that i run to buy a PS3 unit.After i get home, i start to mod my ps3,open it and installed the swap switch and the originalmode/swap mode switch.i try it with the PS3 disassembled.Every thing went fine, but then i get worry when i saw the Laser unit injecting power to the coils tryng to focus something in the drive, when there wasen´t anything there.
Example:
-In Swap mode switch, put the original game inside.
-turn on the machine and wait the media to get recognized.
-turn the switch mode into eject
-the original game comes out BUT THE LASER START´S CLICKING TRYING TO READ SOMETHING THAT ISN´T THERE.
-THIS IS WRONG.the laser coils starts to burn for the increasing of power that it receives.this power increasing isn´t dangerous when it takes less then 1 second, in fact this result in focus or tracking way to work.But never more then 0.5 sec.
In the first and second batch of the PS2 Slim (V12), there was this problem.Sometimes the PS2 crashed out and the laser starts tryng to focus/trcking and this amount of power totaly burned the unit.Every body knows this, it was caled the Mechacon Crash.
I Stoped using the Swap mode by the time i cheked the Laser spinning up and down tracking the media that wasn´t there anymore.
This is for sure the problem that maked Pizzag Laser unit Burning, since he uses this mod for a longer time then others.
Im realy Sorry for my bad english, but i realy needed to WARN everybody for this bad/danger solution.
Be well.
Then this quote that came from "tsrps3" on page 8:
Originally posted by tsrps3:
Because if you remember well, even people using originals only, with no swapping involved whatsoever, had their laser die on those V9+ PS2s and i think we would have heard about a lot of lasers killed on non-altered PS3s by now if their laser units also had such a bug.
Pizzag laser didn't burn out. A chip burned out due to mis-swapping a
blu-ray with a DVD. As I quote him from page 12:
Originally posted by pizzag:
well if it's not the laser then where do i get a new circuit board? and how much? i've seen the entire drive for $300 and there's no way i'm paying that much. i'll throw my ps3 out the window and do a burnout on it with my car before i blow $300 on a new one. any idea what the problem is with the board and is it fixable? someone was asking about swap magic 3.6 and for me it did not stop the dvd from spinning. i find that weird cause someone else said version 2.0 did stop the dvd from spinning. and my swap magic 3.6 cd version loaded half the time for me
Quote me if I'm wrong, but where in this post does it say that somebodies lasers got killed when they switched without waiting, and I quote from "David891" on page 19:
Originally posted by David891:
Originally posted by StrikerGT:
Ok I am begginning to understand, but doesn't the laser only try to read the disc until it is authenticated, then goes into a standby mode until you actually play the game. So in this standby mode since its not actually reading anything, you would think as far as the laser goes it would be safe to swap the discs since the laser isnt doing any actual work at that point, correct? I know the disc is still spinning, but thats a risk that is minor to take in my opinion, im just more focused on the laser issue here.
Were not sure if there is a standby mode or something like that, but we do know that some ps3 lasers got killed when they switched without waiting. What you do is up to you but if you want to be sure you dont kill your laser you better wait 8:30 minutes (tip: put screensaver on 10 minutes and then you know you can switch safely).
The way I built it in requires 2 wholes drilleng inside the cardreader, so when you turn down the black thing you almost cant see I modded ps3
I understand that people would like to keep a precaution, fore the ps3 not cheap, but telling stories to people that aren't true makes them wonder how good your word is, No offense. Then they are going to start wondering if you have actually done this. Your insight seem pretty good, mostly. No ps3 have been damaged due ejecting yet. Quote me if I'm wrong.
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The Next deal of business should be the disc.
This quote is from "ChokeDYou" on page 7:
Originally posted by ChokeDYou:
I have backups on DVD-R and +R media and always burn slow as possible. I happen to use NERO to burn but it don't matter much I don't believe and as far as the TOC making the difference you need an original game with a larger TOC size than the backup your trying to play. Look here for a reference,
http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/182717
and also someone correct me if I'm wrong,
you have to have this formula for playing backups
DVD5 original= DVD5 backup
DVD9 original= DVD9 backup
Blue Ray ??? don't know for sure
and I still haven't had time to check the playability of PSX yet....anyone ???
Hope that helps.
ChokeDYou
and this from "ChokeDYou":
Originally posted by ChokeDYou:
Devil May Cry the first in the series is at the top of the TOC list and the bigger the TOC size of the game(original) the more backups that are compatible. Reference what games(originals) you have at the link below for their TOC sizes.
http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/182717
Hope that was enough info to help.
Yes, I know I quoted him/her twice.
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I know that reading 500+ threads is really too much to read and most people would just rather skim through a thread that highlights the good stuff. I hope I have helped with that. If you have a problem, I suggest that you do read all, or most of the 20 pages that are before this one.
Most questions have been answered, it's just finding them. Most of them are between pages 1-8.
I now need alittle sleep, then I will ask my questions. Which I think one of the answers should have been in the very first page.
How do you keep a ***** in suspense??? Tell you tomorrow.
Enjoy,
babyhewy
