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Discussion in 'Nero discussion' started by vinalcape, Aug 17, 2005.

  1. vinalcape

    vinalcape Member

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    I am posting here because I believe nero to be the problem? I use shrink,dvd43,and nero 5.5 to make back-ups of my dvds and have always had no problem. I recently had some of dvd collection stolen so I was making back-ups of my burnt discs with nero and the new back-ups wouldn't work.Either it played to a certin point,only played one scene from the special features, or didn't play at all. Some of the back-ups were fine but those were only the ones that I backed-up a month ago and before. Out of curiosity,I tried to back-up one of the ones that turned out fine and the errors were back. Now about a month ago I bought an ex.i/o magic dvd dual-layer 16xrw
    and it came with nero 6.It was to replace my 2.4x backpack rw that always worked fine but was slow. After installing everything I kept getting diffrent errors and wasting discs,so I took back yhe i/o magic and went back to everything I had before. I also restored my system back before the time of the new hard/software. What could the problem be?
     
  2. Jerry746

    Jerry746 Senior member

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    Your problem could possibly be related to the type blank media you used for your first backup. What brand media did you use. I'm hoping it wasn't Memorex because the problems you listed kind of lean towards those that Memorex media causes.

    Jerry
     
  3. vinalcape

    vinalcape Member

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    I am using compusa +r 4x,but I've used many diffrent media and never had a problem. Basicly, before the hard/software change I could make a back-up from a back-up,but now I can make 1 perfect back-up and then I get the errors after that. The back-ups I made before the change are being backed-up as if they were the original,but I experimented and tried to make another and it failed. It's like there is something in nero that is not allowing a back up to be copied.When I installed the new rw software I had to go to a web site and download an auto firmware update program. I don't know if this has glitched my system, it was recommended on the i/o magic box and instructions. Anyone have a clue?
     
  4. binkie7

    binkie7 Moderator Staff Member

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    I think it's your media also. CompuUsa is not known as a quality brand or to use quality manufacturers. Poor quality discs can sometimes be backed up some times not. Depends on how bad they have degraded. Even from the same pack they can vary in quality. I recopied a movie on crap media done over 1 year ago that was fine but tried another burned after that from the same pack and it's a no go. So there's no consistency.
    Nero will allow you to copy a copy. Once the protections removed it's just a straight copy to copy. What error is Nero giving you? What other media have you used?
    A good way to see who the manufacturer is is thru Nero Tool Kit or with this prog
    http://dvd.identifier.cdfreaks.com/
    On those discs you can't copy check the manufacturer. There's plenty of info on aD of the good ones and bad ones.
     
  5. creaky

    creaky Moderator Staff Member

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    time for my proverbial request i think....

    post LAST section of your Nero log, which is in c:\program files\ahead\nero\nerohistory.log, but DO NOT post your serial number which usually begins with '1A21' or similar
     
  6. alkohol

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    I recommend you "not" to buy any Compusa medias regardless if it's DVD-R or DVD+R. If you want to go the easy way around then go to your local Best Buy, Circuit City, Wal-Mart, K-Mart, Target, etc. and grab some Verbatim 8X DVD+R "MCC003", Fuji and Sony 8X DVD+R "Made In Japan", and MAXELL 8X DVD+R "Made In Japan" only. These are one of the best and perhaps top notch medias in the market you'll ever find.

    In regards to Nero, I recommend you to uninstall everything from your computer first. Go here http://ww2.nero.com/enu/Clean_Tools.html - and get the "general" clean tool. On the other hand, if you have any "InCD" that was installed with Nero when you first installed it, then get the "InCD clean tool" as well. Download it, save it on a folder, run it to clean every bit and piece of Nero and InCD out from your system. Additionally, if you happened to have "ROXIO" on your computer, then I suggest you "ditch" that program as well. Reboot your computer, then reinstall Nero 6.6.0.16 (Ultra Edition) only back on your computer. Reboot it again. Now try to do your back up again with some high grade quality medias.
     
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  7. COLSKI

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    HI all,
    My problem is making a copy of a copy.My rewriter is a sonydvd rw u14a i.0c 4 speed . using pinnacle instant copy to copy dvd to dvd.(the copy I am trying to copy is an 8 speed disc) insert disc.-pinnacle reads disc-ejects disc after reading and prompts "insert blank"- blank inserted- after 30 secs get an error message "an error occured while writing track 1 at position 2236 extended information #device:sonydvdrwu14a(d) medium error:power calibration error
    f1 00 03 ff fd 00 00 12 00 00 00 00 73 03 2a 00 00 00 08 bc 00 00 1a 00"
    Now ,this only happens whenI try to copy an 8 speed COPY. I am able to copy a purchased movie onto a 4 speed or an 8 speed blank perfectly.
    Does any body know why this is happening,'cos it's giving me a bad head!
    (The same thing happens when I try it in dvd decrypter.)Thanks for any help.
     
  8. creaky

    creaky Moderator Staff Member

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    @COLSKI -

    for a start your burner's firmware is out of date, version 2.0e is here - http://forum.rpc1.org/dl_firmware.php?download_id=1618

    what blank discs are you using ?

    as to the copy of the copy, download dvdinfopro (free from www.dvdinfopro.com) put one of the blank discs thru it's media info check and paste results here...

    i myself backup from a backup by simply copy/pasting in windows explorer then using Nero Burnuing Rom to burn to a new disc..
     
  9. Jerry746

    Jerry746 Senior member

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    Any burning program that has a DISC COPY feature should be able to re-copy a copy. However as we are trying to explain above, the brand of blank media used may come into play. Any brand media manufactured by CMC MAG is usually very poor quality blank media. If you are lucky enough to get one of these blanks to burn the first copy, you will find that usually in 6 months or less they will start to have playback problems and when trying to re-copy that first burn it will usually error out. Expect a 50% failure rate with those blanks. This is why we keep asking about the brand of blank media being used.

    Jerry
     
  10. vinalcape

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    Where would the serial # in the log file be? I don't see any 1a21, but is it the big 24 didgit # at the beginning?
     
  11. binkie7

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    Yes that should be the serial # from Nero - they're 24 digits.
     
  12. vinalcape

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    Windows XP 5.1
    IA32
    WinAspi: -
    ahead WinASPI: File 'C:\Program Files\Ahead\Nero\Wnaspi32.dll': Ver=2.0.1.59, size=160016 bytes, created 1/29/2003 4:37:36 PM
    Nero Version: 5.5.10.29 (Nero Express)
    Recorder: <_NEC DVD+RW ND-1100A> Version: 1.A0 - HA 2 TA 0 - 5.5.10.29
    Adapter driver: <> HA 2
    Drive buffer : 2048kB
    Bus Type : default (0) -> ATAPI, detected: ?
    CD-ROM: <HL-DT-ST DVD-ROM GDR8161B>Version: 0042 - HA 1 TA 1 - 5.5.10.29
    Adapter driver: <atapi> HA 1
    Bus Type : default (0) -> ATAPI, detected: ATAPI

    === Scsi-Device-Map ===
    DiskPeripheral : WDC WD800AB-22CBA1 atapi Port 0 ID 0 DMA: On
    CdRomPeripheral : CyberDrv CW078D CD-R/RW atapi Port 1 ID 0 DMA: On
    CdRomPeripheral : HL-DT-ST DVD-ROM GDR8161B atapi Port 1 ID 1 DMA: On
    =======================

    AutoRun : 1
    Excluded drive IDs:
    CmdQueuing : 1
    CmdNotification: 2
    WriteBufferSize: 74448896 (0) Byte
    ShowDrvBufStat : 0
    EraseSpeed : 0
    BUFE : 0
    Physical memory : 511MB (523756kB)
    Free physical memory: 236MB (242112kB)
    Memory in use : 53 %
    Uncached PFiles: 0x0
    Use Static Write Speed Table: 0
    Use Inquiry : 1
    Global Bus Type: default (0)
    Check supported media : Enabled (1)
    Wizard: On

    17.8.2005
    CD Copy
    5:48:34 PM #1 Text 0 File Reader.cpp, Line 115
    Reader running

    5:48:34 PM #2 Text 0 File Writer.cpp, Line 125
    Writer _NEC DVD+RW ND-1100A running

    5:48:34 PM #3 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 3736
    Turn on Disc-At-Once, using DVD media

    5:48:34 PM #4 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 672
    Setup items (original item values)
    0: TRM_DATA_MODE1 (1 Data (mode 1))
    2 indices, index0 (150) not provided
    original CD pos #0 + 2286128 (2286128) = #2286128/508:1.53
    not relocatable, CD pos for caching/writing not required/not required, no patch infos
    --------------------------------------------------------------

    5:48:35 PM #5 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 222
    Last possible write address on media: 2295103 (510:01.28)
    Last address to be written: 2286127 (508:01.52)

    5:48:35 PM #6 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 227
    Write in overburning mode: FALSE

    5:48:35 PM #7 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 1679
    Recorder: _NEC DVD+RW ND-1100A, Media type: DVD+R

    5:48:35 PM #8 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 824
    Prepare recorder _NEC DVD+RW ND-1100A for write in cue-sheet-DAO
    DAO infos:
    ==========
    MCN:
    TOCTYPE: 0x0 Session Closed, CD fixated
    Tracks 1 to 1:
    TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048/0x0, ISRC "", FilePos 0 307200 387330048

    5:48:35 PM #9 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 672
    Setup items (after recorder preparation)
    0: TRM_DATA_MODE1 (1 Data (mode 1))
    2 indices, index0 (150) not provided
    original CD pos #0 + 2286128 (2286128) = #2286128/508:1.53
    not relocatable, CD pos for caching/writing not required/not required, no patch infos
    -> TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048, config 0, wanted index0 0 blocks, length 2286128 blocks [_NEC DVD+RW ND-1100A ]
    --------------------------------------------------------------

    5:48:35 PM #10 Phase 36 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1655
    Burn process started at 2.4x (3,312 KB/s)

    5:48:35 PM #11 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 1978
    Verifying CD position of item 0 (not relocatable, no CD pos, no patch infos, orig at #0): write at #0

    5:48:35 PM #12 Text 0 File DVDPlusRW.cpp, Line 1225
    Set Booktype to DVD+R (10), set mode 'next writes' (2) on DVD+R media, return: -1065 -> FAILED!

    5:48:35 PM #13 Text 0 File DVDPlusRW.cpp, Line 410
    Start write address at LBA 0
    DVD high compatibility mode: Yes

    5:48:35 PM #14 Text 0 File DVDCopy.cpp, Line 166
    DVDCopy: Source-Media-Type : 32 - Start of Dirty CD to DVDCopy

    5:55:13 PM #15 SCSI -1128 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1212
    SCSI Exec, HA 1, TA 1, LUN 0, buffer 0x05130000
    Status: 0x04 (0x01, SCSI_ERR)
    HA-Status 0x00 (0x00, OK)
    TA-Status 0x02 (0x01, SCSI_TASTATUS_CHKCOND)
    Sense Key: 0x03 (KEY_MEDIUM_ERROR)
    Sense Code: 0x11
    Sense Qual: 0x00
    CDB Data: 0x28 0x00 0x00 0x09 0x67 0x20 0x00 0x00 0x20 0x00 0x00 0x00
    Sense Data: 0xF0 0x00 0x03 0x00 0x09 0x67 0x30 0x0A
    0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x11 0x00

    5:55:13 PM #16 Text 0 File DVDCopy.cpp, Line 179
    DVDCopy: Start of Dirty-Read at LBA616224

    6:12:13 PM #17 Text 0 File WriterStatus.cpp, Line 115
    <_NEC DVD+RW ND-1100A > start writing Lead-Out at LBA 2286128 (22E230h), lenght 0 blocks

    6:12:13 PM #18 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 222
    all writers idle, stopping conversion

    6:12:30 PM #19 Phase 37 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1655
    Burn process completed successfully at 2.4x (3,312 KB/s)

    6:12:30 PM #20 Text 0 File Scsicmd.cpp, Line 406
    SCSI not using temporary buffers
    20 out of 20 temporary buffers allocated


    Existing drivers:
    File 'Drivers\atapi.sys': Ver=5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158), size=95360 bytes, created 8/4/2004 1:59:42 AM (Adapter driver for src)

    Registry Keys:
    HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\WinLogon\AllocateCDROMs : 0 (Security Option)

    ====== *** Nero-Burning Rom, History File *** ======
    I hpoe someone can find a definite answer to my problem by looking at this because I don't understand any of it!!??!
     
  13. Jerry746

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    Ok, I'm not an expert on Nero logs but here are a few things I noticed. It looks like you are trying to copy on the fly without writing to your HD first. Not the best way to get a good copy. Too many chances of both read and write errors. Next if I read right, it looks like you are trying to copy VCD cd movies to DVD. If this is correct then those VCD's need processed properly to copy to a dvd. Last it also shows a medium error which goes back to the possiblity of poor choice of blank media. Like I said I'm no Nero expert but thats what it looks like to me. I may be wrong.

    Jerry
     
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    To add to Jerry746 - you need to update your firmware - here's a link:
    http://support.necsam.com/oem/downloads/flashfirmware/
    I also can't see where nero recognizes the media your using. The firmware update may help this.
    This also looks like a log from a burn that was completed.
     
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    @vinalcape -

    - be aware that if you buy a newer drive in the future, Nero 5.x.x.x will very likely be unable to correctly recognise it, you'd need 6.x.x.x

    - version 1.A3 of your firmware is here - http://forum.rpc1.org/dl_firmware.php?download_id=301

    Maybe something for another day to wring a bit more life out of that burner - http://herrie.org/upgrdr.html - Basically you could upgrade your drive very slightly, by changing it into an NEC 1300A. This would allow you to burn to -R discs, but only at 4.0x for DVD-R and 2.0x for DVD-RW discs.

    But as your drive stands, it is only presently capable of burning to 4.0x DVD+R and 2.4x DVD+RW discs, what media are you using (and what speed are the discs rated at ?...

    - is the burner in a USB enclosure ?

    - with the firmware being out of date, the best the drive can tell is that the discs are +R

    - ouch!. hopefully the firmware update will cure that

    - update the firmware

    - free up more memory
     
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    Reguarding the nero gen. cleaning tool, it said that plugins will be deleated, willthat effect me or not? if so, where do I look and what do I do? Should I do this prior to the firmwear update or does it matter? I plan to re-install nero5.5?The burner is a usb connected backpack and the Aspi is a system default. Should I use the one by nero found in the nerotool section? As of now it says aspi not installed.
     
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    @vinalcape -

    did you ever make any progress on this one ? (sorry, just stumbled on this thread while searching for info on another one)
     
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    Actually I have not. I have had luck using the the burn video files instead of the copy entire disc,but I also get a cache too small message but it burned fine.If I try to use shrink or Icopydvd2 software to burn the burned copy and I get a F file not found error and I don't know what that means.I just don't understand why everything has worked for years and all of a sudden not.Again, I can make a perfect backup but copy entire disc using nero the new backup plays some of the movie bue then freezes. The select a scene works up to the freeze point,but if you select a scene after the freeze point the menue just freezes.
     

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