Problem with DVD+R playback

Discussion in 'DVDR' started by rabtab17, Sep 12, 2005.

  1. rabtab17

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    I was wondering if anybody could help me out with a very frustrating problem. I have burned several movies, using a Maxell external DVD+-R writer. I purchased a very inexpensive dvd player(Coby), because I was told that those would have more luck with compatability. However, the disc will play just fine until around 30 to 45 minutes into the movie, and then it will start to get choppy and freeze, similair to the effects caused by the dvd having a dirty surface. The problem starts slow and then progresses until it is unwatchable, the time it takes for it to start is consistant as well. You would think if there was a compatability issue, the problem would happen throughout the whole disc. I use dvdshrink btw. The same Dvds will play on a few other players I have tried. If anyone has any input, it would be greatly appreciated!!
     
  2. larrylje

    larrylje Active member

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    Ok first off why would it make sense that a cheap inexpensive DVD home player would be more compatible with a high quility 1? In my opion that is completly wrong. I have 4 DVD players and the player that works the best was a JVC 1 that i bought for $125 the rest where like $40 DVD players and I frequntly have more problems on the cheaper drives.

    Now on the other hand a few tips to see if you can get them to burn better.

    Try lowering the output size of the DVD to 4300 if you leave it as a DVD5 size disc which is default in DVD Shrink it will burn closer to the edges of the disc where there is more poissbility of flaws due to the dye of the outer edges being less then the center and mifddle of disc.

    So to do this when you open up shrink there will be a pull down menu that will let you change the size of it pull it down click on costum and then type in 4300 in the box. this will keep it from going to close to the edge of the disc.

    Also always make sure you are burning no faster then 4x so if your burrning faster then that slow it down to 4x or less

    also good quility media. Try diffrent media till you get some that work good on your systems. Cheap media is probably the #1 reason of bad playback of the DVD Backup
     
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  3. rabtab17

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    Yeah, i had just heard that cheaper dvd players would play them better, honestly it doesn't make sense to me either.

    I am using Maxell DVD+R's, I will try adjusting the output size and burn rate. Thanks for the tips...

    PS - Will reducing the output size in turn reduce the capacity of the disc??
     
  4. larrylje

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    Yes but not by much. I had a simaler problem when I first started out. The movies would skip and when I brought the output size down to 4300 it worked. So try that I bet you see a diffrence and defently slow down the burn speed to 4x or less.

    If that dosent work then maybe its just the quility of the DVD home player or even the disc.
     
  5. alkohol

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    @rabtab17,

    Just a note to remind you only. Keep in mind that not all expensive dvd players will be able to play all DVD+Rs format. In addition, any dvd player that's 2 years or older can not play most of the DVD+R as well. To solve this problem, you need to "book type" or change the "bitsetting" into a DVD-ROM format, so it can be play on all of your dvd players. Yes... DVD-ROM is the universal format for all functional stand alone dvd players.

    Again, please keep in mind to use high quality media such as Taiyo Yuden (including the Fuji & Sony "Made In Japan"), Maxell "Made In Japan", and the Verbatim "MCC003 & MCC004" for your future dvd backups.
     
  6. Mort81

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    Do you know who actually makes your maxell dvdrw? I can't find any maxell dvdrw drives. Like alkohol said dvd+r/rw booktyped to dvd-rom is the most compatable format but your drive may not be capable of doing this. Dvd-r is the 2nd most compatable format and might be worth trying.

    Mort
     
  7. rabtab17

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    Mort,
    Sorry, that was a typo, the dvd+-rw drive is Memorex.

    Thanks guys, I'll try these adjustments, and hopefully
    have some better luck with this.
     
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    Just a note or 2:

    When encountering difficulity with older players handling currently made backups, an excellent alternative is an inexpensive (el Cheapo) DVD standalone player. Even the cheapest players of today can play +R's, -R's and DVD-ROM's as well as 8X, 16X and DL discs while players 1 and 1/2 yrs old will most likely have difficulity playing them. Why ? Because 18 months ago, many of these discs didn't exist so the standalone's built-in firmware couldn't be expected to sea them. I sea no issue in recommending the purchase of a cheap player as opposed to attempting to locate -R, 4X media that will be aceppted by an older player. Currently there is little difference in a player's ability to play a given disc. An expensive player, IMO doesn't have that much of an edge to warrant the expense where just playing is the issue.

    Note 2. Memorex buys the cheapest burners it can find and puts their name on it so you probably cannot booktype your +R discs.

    While Maxell -R discs are considered on a par with Memorex disc for quality (a truly bad thing) Maxell's +R media are an excellent disc and you'll want to stick with them

    Offerer: Maxell
    Designation: DVD+R
    Print: Maxell
    Packing: Jewel Case
    EAN code: 4902580347413
    UPC code: without
    Manufacturer's code: RICOHJPNR00
    Manufacturer: Ricoh company Limited
    Dye type: Unknown

    OR,

    Offerer: Maxell
    Designation: DVD+R
    Print: without
    Packing: Jewel Case
    EAN code: 4902580350314
    UPC code: without
    Detail:
    Manufacturer's code: YUDEN000T01
    Manufacturer: Taiyo Yuden company Limited
    Dye type: Unknown

    Though the discs you're using are good, you should still set your DVD target size to 4300 as suggested by larrylje as well as maintaining your burning speed at the tried and proven speed of 4X.

    Keeping all the pieces lined up will ensure you of continued good burns with a minimum of problems.

    My 2-cents,

    Pete



     
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    Some late model 16x dvdrw drives are lite-ons and are capable of bitsetting. I still need your particular model because in the past they were not rebadged liteys. They also might be rebadging some other drive now and the external drives may be some other oem drive.

    Eg. Memorex DVD16+/-DL4RWlD2
    Memorex DVD16+/-DL4RWlD2 - JWS5, JWS6
    Use LtnRPC to reset or disable the Region Counter. Click Disable and your drive will be region free!
    OEM Liteon SOHW-1673S
    RPC-2



     
  11. rabtab17

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  13. rabtab17

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    Mort,

    Here's what the software shows....

    Model: DVD16+/-DL4RW|D2
    Revision: JWSS
     
  14. rabtab17

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    Sorry,

    That's JWS5
     
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    I'm not sure where to find it on the site
     
  17. rabtab17

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    Nevermind, I got the update somewhere else it now says JWS6 in that program. Thanks a lot!!, So now it's capable of booktyping? this is just a option that will now be available?
     
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    You're welcome. Let me know if you want to bitset/booktype your dvd+r media to dvd-rom. You can do this with several utilities, nero, dvd decrypter, dvdinfopro, and dvd shrink if you use nero to burn. I'll need to know what you use. Here's some info on bitsetting/booktyping.
    http://www.cdfreaks.com/article/150

    Mort
     
  20. rabtab17

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    Thanks so much, i figured out how to change the bitsetting to DVD-ROM in Nero, and burning a DVD now at 2.4X. Let you know how it turns out.
     

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