PMA update error, bad media or something worse????

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  1. tocayo

    tocayo Member

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    Hi

    I´ve been trying to burn some stuff, but I keep getting an error message. Im using Imation DVD-R, and a LG GSA-4120B Writter. I tried PRINCO media, and I simply cant burn them. So I swithced to Imation, and the problems stopped. But recently I´ve been getting more error messages. If I try to burn at 4x I get a "Writting Error", and if I try burning at 8x, I get the PMA update error.

    So my quetion is this... Is it a case of bad batch of blanks, or do I have a bigger problem??? And in case that the media is incompatible with my burner, which brand of DVD-R do you recommend???

    Thanx
     
  2. mybarras

    mybarras Member

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    without your burn log,it could be a number of things.the discs i only use are sony8x dvd-r,if you post your burn log we will be able to tell you more,just check you have the latest firmware for your burner,even if your burner is new it doesnt mean it has the latest firmware.
     
  3. konfused1

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    What proggies are you using to rip/burn?
     
  4. tocayo

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    Im using DVD Decrypter 3.5.2.0 and Shrink 3.2.0.15 and Burning with Nero (I don´t know the version), and I´ve just updated my writter firmware.

    This is one of the logs (when I try to burn at 4x)... I traduced some parts written in spanish, so bear with me.



    AutoRun : 1
    Excluded drive IDs:
    CmdQueuing : 1
    CmdNotification: 2
    WriteBufferSize: 36700160 (0) Byte
    ShowDrvBufStat : 0
    EraseSpeed : 0
    BUFE : 0
    Physical memory : 223MB (228848kB)
    Free physical memory: 30MB (31412kB)
    Memory in use : 86 %
    Uncached PFiles: 0x0
    Use Static Write Speed Table: 0
    Use Inquiry : 1
    Global Bus Type: default (0)
    Check supported media : Disabled (0)

    27.9.2005
    Grabar imagen de DVD
    17:17:34 #1 Text 0 File Reader.cpp, Line 118
    Reader running

    17:17:34 #2 Text 0 File Writer.cpp, Line 124
    Writer HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GSA-4120B running

    17:17:34 #3 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 3167
    Turn on Disc-at-once, using DVD media

    17:17:35 #4 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 245
    Last possible write address on media: 2298495 (510:46.45, 4489MB)
    Last address to be written: 2285971 (507:59.46, 4464MB)

    17:17:35 #5 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 257
    Write in overburning mode: NO (enabled: CD)

    17:17:35 #6 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 2137
    Recorder: HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GSA-4120B, Media type: DVD-R
    Disc Manufacturer: FUJIFI - LM03
    Disc Application Code: 64, Disc Physical Code: 193

    17:17:35 #7 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 418
    >>> Protocol of DlgWaitCD activities: <<<
    =========================================

    17:17:35 #8 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 813
    Setup items (after recorder preparation)
    0: TRM_DATA_MODE1 (2 - CD-ROM Modo 1, ISO 9660)
    2 indices, index0 (150) not provided
    original disc pos #0 + 2285972 (2285972) = #2285972/507:59.47
    not relocatable, disc pos for caching/writing not required/not required, no patch infos
    -> TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048, config 0, wanted index0 0 blocks, length 2285972 blocks [HL-DT-ST DVDRAM

    GSA-4120B]
    --------------------------------------------------------------

    17:17:35 #9 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 982
    Prepare recorder [HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GSA-4120B] for write in CUE-sheet-DAO
    DAO infos:
    ==========
    MCN: ""
    TOCType: 0x00; Session Closed, disc fixated
    Tracks 1 to 1:
    1: TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048/0x00, FilePos 0 0 4681670656, ISRC ""
    DAO layout:
    ===========
    __Start_|____Track_|_Idx_|_RecDep_|_CtrlAdr_
    0 | lead-in | 0 | 0x00 | 0x41
    0 | 1 | 0 | 0x00 | 0x41
    0 | 1 | 1 | 0x00 | 0x41
    2285972 | lead-out | 1 | 0x00 | 0x41

    17:17:35 #10 Phase 24 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1836
    Start Cache Writting

    17:17:36 #11 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 4177
    Cache writing successful.

    17:17:36 #12 Phase 25 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1836
    Cache writing finished

    17:17:36 #13 Phase 36 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1836
    Writting process start at 4x (5,540 KB/s)

    17:17:36 #14 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 2345
    Verifying disc position of item 0 (not relocatable, no disc pos, no patch infos, orig at #0): write at #0

    17:17:36 #15 Text 0 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1694
    Set remaining time: 14:10,223 (850223ms) -> OK

    17:17:36 #16 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 1833
    Recording mode: Sequential Recording Mode

    17:17:36 #17 Text 0 File Mmc.cpp, Line 20173
    Set BUFE: supported -> ON

    17:17:36 #18 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 1974
    Start write address at LBA 0
    DVD high compatibility mode: Yes

    17:17:36 #19 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 8063
    ---- DVD Structure: Physical Format Information (00h) ----
    Layer: 0, Address: 0 (0 h), AGID: 0; Length: 2050
    Book Type: DVD-R (2), Part Version: 5
    Disc Size: 120 mm, Maximum Rate: <not specified> (F h)
    Number of Layers: 1, Track Path: Parallel Track Path (PTP), Layer Type: recordable
    Linear Density: 0,267 um/bit, Track Density: 0,74 um/track
    Starting Physical Sector Number of Data Area: 30000 h (DVD-ROM, DVD-R/-RW, DVD+R/+RW)
    End Physical Sector Number of Data Area: 26127F h
    End Sector Number in Layer 0: 0 h
    Data in Burst Cutting Area (BCA) does not exist
    Start sector number of the current Border-Out: 2FE10 h
    Start sector number of the next Border-In: 2FFA0 h
    Media Specific [16..63]:
    00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
    00 02 FE 10 00 02 FF A0 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
    00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................

    17:17:58 #20 SCSI -1135 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1441
    SCSI Exec, HA 1, TA 0, LUN 0, buffer 0x04F50000
    Status: 0x04 (0x01, SCSI_ERR)
    HA-Status 0x00 (0x00, OK)
    TA-Status 0x02 (0x01, SCSI_TASTATUS_CHKCOND)
    Sense Key: 0x03 (KEY_MEDIUM_ERROR)
    Sense Code: 0x0C
    Sense Qual: 0x00
    CDB Data: 0x2A 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x20 0x00 0x00 0x00
    Sense Data: 0x70 0x00 0x03 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x10
    0x32 0x4D 0x00 0x0C 0x0C 0x00

    17:17:58 #21 CDR -1135 File Writer.cpp, Line 304
    Writting Error

    17:17:58 #22 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 229
    all writers idle, stopping conversion

    17:17:58 #23 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 223
    conversion idle, stopping reader

    17:17:58 #24 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 2201
    EndDAO: Last written address was -1

    17:18:00 #25 Text 0 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1694
    Set remaining time: 0:00,000 (0ms) -> OK

    17:18:00 #26 Text 0 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1694
    Set remaining time: 0:00,000 (0ms) -> OK

    17:18:00 #27 Phase 38 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1836
    Writting process failed at 4x (5,540 KB/s)

    Thanx again
     
  5. konfused1

    konfused1 Regular member

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    @tocayo:

    This pops out:

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    You don't have enough memory.
     
  6. mybarras

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    Physical memory : 223MB (228848kB)
    Free physical memory: 30MB (31412kB)
    Memory in use : 86 %
    you will never burn with this amount of memory,invest in some more(512)

    17:17:35 #4 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 245
    Last possible write address on media: 2298495 (510:46.45, 4489MB)
    Last address to be written: 2285971 (507:59.46, 4464MB)
    set to 4350,you are burning to close to the edge of the disc.

    TA-Status 0x02 (0x01, SCSI_TASTATUS_CHKCOND)
    Sense Key: 0x03 (KEY_MEDIUM_ERROR)
    Sense Code: 0x0C
    also it doesnt seem to like the media you are using,try some sony,ty or verbatim media.
     
  7. tocayo

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    Damn... just when I have no money!!

    Thanx guys... I´ll see what I can do.
     
  8. tocayo

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    Sorry... more doubts.

    I´ve just found a burn log from January (printed on paper, so Im writting all the text so I can paste it in here) and It says that I was using 86% of the RAM memory,... and back then i was able to burn 49 out of 50 blanks. I found another printed log from april where Im using 83% of RAM... and in april I was burning 50 out of 50 blanks. Aprox. All DVD-R Princo and Imation.

    Now im burning about 2 out of 5. Let´s suppose it´s not the RAM memory... I´ve reduced the size of the image to 4300, I´ve bought 4 blanks (2 samsung, 2 TDK) and the first one is fine, the second one at 4x failed just like my burn log from above, and the other 2 failed at 8x because of PMA update. I burned a fifth (Imation at 4x) and failed again.

    I´ve just defrag the HD, closed all aplications while burning, updated my firmware, etc etc.

    And Im still burning 2 out of 5 blanks.
    HELP
     
  9. creaky

    creaky Moderator Staff Member

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    i haven't read the entire thread, just the last few replies so far... the guys have summed up your problem methinks... then i saw Imation and Princo - ugh!., that's probably part of the problem also....... i'll now read thru the whole thing
     
  10. tocayo

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    I forgot to mention... If I want to burn something, I have to shutdown the computer, wait around 10 - 15 minutes, then start it over, and THEN I can write one DVD at 4x. If i want to burn another, I have to shutdown and wait 10 - 15 minutes all over again.

    Again, any help is appreciated.
     
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    Thanx creaky... but so far I can´t burn Imation, Princo, TDK or Samsung. And a few months ago, I was able to burn Imation, Princo, TDK, Samsung, Sony, Verbatim, etc etc.
     
  12. MovieDud

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    @tocayo, friend you need to increase memory and definitely upgrade to better media. I truly never have any issue with burning. 100 % burns all the time, unless by my own error, but they work perfectly. I use Taiyo Yuden, Verbatims, Sony's, and Maxell's (Japan) and burn at 4x.
    MovieDud
     
  13. tocayo

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    Im going to improve the memory. That´s a fact. But my doubt is this... why a few months, with the same programs, same RAM, same burner, same media, same everything I was able to burn anything. The problems started around the first week of september. I haven´t installed anything. It´s the same machine as august... and suddenly I cant burn anything. Im going to buy more memory, but I keep thinking why in a few weeks suddenly everything fails.

    That´s all
     
  14. creaky

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    Imation used widely differing quality in disc manufacturers, you might pick up a pack of Imation one week and (by luck) you'd have discs manufactured by a 'decent' manufacturer, and another week you'd pick up an identical pack and end up with landfill manufacturer's discs.

    Princo - i only know one person who uses them, and he recently sent me some just to play me up, and lo and behold they were awful.

    TDK - you have to know which ones to pick for the same reasons as Imation.

    you need to follow the advice of this and the other guys who've replied. then you'll be burning like us, for good and without wasting time or money on discs/redoing burns.

    and as part of my signature states Verbatim DataLifePlus, Taiyo Yuden & Ritek G05 are the ONLY media allowed near my Burners.

     
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