newtechie even tho Russ brings up a good point you're gonna have those kinda times with almost anything you do. ;) You can choose a better HDD but an IDE 8MB cache HDD is gonna be about 30% slower than a 16MB cache HDD. IF you were transferring files then I'd say even slower. I remember when I ADDED my 320 16MB cache SATA to the system, you talk about FAST. lol.

Russ I had/have an old Dell P4 1.0 (i think) and I tried to use DVD RB Pro but AFTER 6 hours I stopped the process because it said it was about 60% (total) done. I think you bring up a good point BUT it's not gonna make that big of a time difference with whatever newtechie does on that machine. With the changes that are gonna have to happen (except for OC'in) it would better serve them to buy a new mobo, cpu, and RAM then move everything else over to improve times. ALL that can be done for about $300 (maybe less if you get super sales) after MIR. ;)

Sorry for the OT post but sometimes that happens. ;) I'll post some scans when I get back. :P

Everyone have a GREAT Spring Break and you kiddies don't do anything silly. hehehe. :P

....gm

greensman,

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I think you bring up a good point BUT it's not gonna make that big of a time difference with whatever newtechie does on that machine.

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That's why I asked newtechie to be more specific. Unless we can determine whether he has a MB that has adjustments for overclocking and decent memory, we can't help him improve his RB times!

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Russ I had/have an old Dell P4 1.0 (i think) and I tried to use DVD RB Pro but AFTER 6 hours I stopped the process because it said it was about 60% (total) done.

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The old P4s like that were bog slow! My Dell 420 workstation running just 1 1GHz P-III will eat it alive. When I sold the 3000, I put the original 2.8/533 Prescot and the 533 memory back in it. His DVD Shrink times were always slower with it than mine were with the 420, by 10-12 minutes for the same flick! LOL!! With it's current 2 1.4GHz P-IIIs in it, there's not a Prescot that can touch it, but a 3.2 Northwood, is faster!

Best Regards,
Russ

My motherboard is a Gigabyte (8IPE10000P-G) model and I did overclock my 3.0ghz processor to 3.2. I have 4 sticks(512mb) of PC3200 memory and I believe hyperthreading is enabled.

Originally posted by ZoSoIV:

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an hour to two hours is the norm when using DVD Rebuilder

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It takes me 40-50 minutes on the new rig.







The above is a burn and scan using Imgburn and DVDinfoPro on MKM001 MIS 2.4X +R DL using stock firmware. I want to get some baseline scans/burns before updating to SB03.

Hey that's fine LOCO, smart really but DON'T use SB02 thinking it will help anything, it's frikkin TERRIBLE!!!! Just wanted to warn you on that buddy. :D

NOT bad scans with that f/w for sure.... Are you gonna use C0deKing's "special" f/w or the stock f/w?? Nothing wrong with CK's stuff and it's what I use 100% of the time if I can find it. :)

good luck to you buddy....

BOG slow huh?? That's funny Russ, never thought of it like that but it's true!!! lol.

newtechie I don't think you will get much better performance out of that setup. NOT a bad setup but nothing like these new Intel's. :) The Q6600 that LOCO is running isn't fair to compare to for sure. :) The upper end C2D's (E6750, E6850, E8400) will keep up with it on normal applications but any progie that utilizes 4 cores will run faster for sure!! ;)

NOW!!! Who's got some scans to make fun of?? hehehe. :P

....gm

I hadn't planned on doing alot of testing with the firmwares so from here I'll go straight to SB03 and more than likely I'll get modified firmware as I have no problems with it at all. I'm looking for another drive to pair with this one now. Eventually I'd like a Lite-On, but not this time....Pioneer 215D or NEC/Optiarc I'm thinking.

Can someone tell me where the Write Speed Data Graph in in ImgBurn! I downloaded the latest version and I can't find it or I'm not understanding something (I'm not a software person). I went to the help file and all that does is open a window!

Sincerely,
Russ

Russ, you have to have DVDInfoPro installed and then once the burn has completed and you've pressed OK the original window comes back up, look for the blue "i" next to the burn button...above and to the right.

@Russ
thats not in imageburn. it is part of dvdinfopro. it is incorparated into its program along with imageburn

guess i need to learn a bit about dvdinfopro and there scans.
just did this one.






Loco did you rip that disc to your HDD or did ya go from disc to disc?

same disc scaned with nero.
almost the same amount of PIE's & PIF's.
http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i196/Cincrob/goose1nero.png

It came from my HDD...

I 10:34:28 ImgBurn Version 2.4.0.6 Beta started!
I 10:34:28 Microsoft Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600 : Service Pack 2)
I 10:34:28 Total Physical Memory: 2,095,532 KB - Available: 1,340,988 KB
I 10:34:28 Initialising SPTI...
I 10:34:28 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices...
I 10:34:29 Found 1 DVD±RW/RAM!
I 10:38:28 Operation Started!
I 10:38:28 Source File: F:\torrents\Assassins.Creed-RELOADED\rld-acrd.iso
I 10:38:28 Source File Sectors: 3,427,984 (MODE1/2048)
I 10:38:28 Source File Size: 7,020,511,232 bytes
I 10:38:28 Source File Volume Identifier: ASSASSINS_CREED
I 10:38:28 Source File Volume Set Identifier: 47C7E8C40000F628
I 10:38:28 Source File Implementation Identifier: GEAR UDF
I 10:38:28 Source File File System(s): ISO9660, Joliet, UDF (1.02)
I 10:38:28 Destination Device: [3:1:0] TSSTcorp CDDVDW SH-S203B SB01 (H:) (ATA)
I 10:38:28 Destination Media Type: DVD+R DL (Disc ID: MKM-001-00) (Speeds: 2.4x, 4x)
I 10:38:28 Destination Media Sectors: 4,173,824
I 10:38:28 Write Mode: DVD
I 10:38:28 Write Type: DAO
I 10:38:28 Write Speed: 2.4x
I 10:38:28 Link Size: Auto
I 10:38:28 Test Mode: No
I 10:38:28 OPC: Yes
I 10:38:28 BURN-Proof: Enabled
I 10:38:28 Book Type Setting: DVD-ROM
I 10:39:17 Optimal L0 Data Zone Capacity: 1,714,000
I 10:39:17 Optimal L0 Data Zone Method: ECC Block Boundary
I 10:39:19 Filling Buffer... (40 MB)
I 10:39:20 Writing LeadIn...
I 10:39:22 Writing Session 1 of 1... (1 Track, LBA: 0 - 3427983)
I 10:39:22 Writing Track 1 of 1... (MODE1/2048, LBA: 0 - 3427983)
I 10:39:22 Writing Layer 0... (LBA: 0 - 1713999)
I 10:56:57 Writing Layer 1... (LBA: 1714000 - 3427983)
I 11:14:35 Synchronising Cache...
I 11:14:38 Closing Track...
I 11:14:40 Finalising Disc...
I 11:15:32 Exporting Graph Data...
I 11:15:32 Graph Data File: E:\Documents and Settings\shortridge\Application Data\ImgBurn\IBG Files\TSSTcorp_CDDVDW_SH-S203B_SB01_SUNDAY-MARCH-16-2008_10-38_AM_MKM-001-00_2.4x.ibg
I 11:15:32 Export Successfully Completed!
I 11:15:32 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:37:03
I 11:15:32 Average Write Rate: 3,246 KB/s (2.3x) - Maximum Write Rate: 3,385 KB/s (2.4x)
I 11:15:32 Cycling Tray before Verify...
W 11:15:39 Waiting for device to become ready...
I 11:15:58 Device Ready!
I 11:15:59 Operation Started!
I 11:15:59 Source Device: [3:1:0] TSSTcorp CDDVDW SH-S203B SB01 (H:) (ATA)
I 11:15:59 Source Media Type: DVD+R DL (Book Type: DVD-ROM) (Disc ID: MKM-001-00) (Speeds: 2.4x, 4x)
I 11:15:59 Image File: F:\torrents\Assassins.Creed-RELOADED\rld-acrd.iso
I 11:15:59 Image File Sectors: 3,427,984 (MODE1/2048)
I 11:15:59 Image File Size: 7,020,511,232 bytes
I 11:15:59 Image File Volume Identifier: ASSASSINS_CREED
I 11:15:59 Image File Volume Set Identifier: 47C7E8C40000F628
I 11:15:59 Image File Implementation Identifier: GEAR UDF
I 11:15:59 Image File File System(s): ISO9660, Joliet, UDF (1.02)
I 11:15:59 Read Speed (Data/Audio): MAX / MAX
I 11:15:59 Verifying Session 1 of 1... (1 Track, LBA: 0 - 3427983)
I 11:15:59 Verifying Track 1 of 1... (MODE1/2048, LBA: 0 - 3427983)
I 11:15:59 Verifying Layer 0... (LBA: 0 - 1713999)
I 11:21:14 Verifying Layer 1... (LBA: 1714000 - 3427983)
I 11:26:24 Exporting Graph Data...
I 11:26:24 Graph Data File: E:\Documents and Settings\shortridge\Application Data\ImgBurn\IBG Files\TSSTcorp_CDDVDW_SH-S203B_SB01_SUNDAY-MARCH-16-2008_10-38_AM_MKM-001-00_2.4x.ibg
I 11:26:24 Export Successfully Completed!
I 11:26:24 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:10:20
I 11:26:24 Average Verify Rate: 11,058 KB/s (8.0x) - Maximum Verify Rate: 15,806 KB/s (11.4x)

LOCO if you're gonna get a NEC/Optiarc just make sure it's truly Optiarc.... A few of the Sony's coming out are Lite-On's, so if you're wanting a N/O go to VideoHelp.com and see what they say the manufacturer is.

I'm curious about the newer Pioneers, I have the DVR-112D@DVR-112L 8.25 and it's great but I want/need another SATA burner to fill up the Gigabyte case I have. :D

...gm

if you do get the newer Pioneer GM let me know how it works out

From what I've read at CDF I doubt I'll be looking for the 212D, but I'd really like to have a 215D....AFAIK they aren't widely available in the states though and the few places that have them are waaaaay overpriced.

oh ya wanting the blueray huh. you think they are gonna be around for a while then huh??? not sold on them or HD DVD.....hows this one here? im thinking of getting this one along with a liteon LH-20A1S

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827129009

reviews on the egg arent to favorable on this one. isnt this what you have GM?

i went to officemax lastnight and got some verbs. had 3 ink carts got 50ct for 6 bucks. yes they were the new disc too. but they were MIT's not MII's i think that last scan i posted up there with nero is one of them.

No BR for me Rob, the 215D is just the big brother of the 212D yo posted a link too.

http://club.cdfreaks.com/f87/pioneer-dvr...ns-here-233063/

where have you found this drive at? the only place i have says its a Blueray drive? $357???
the link to cdfreaks is a good one. the only thing is are they doing the scans on that drive or a different one?

http://www.pioneer.eu/de/products/364/394/442/DVR-215D/index.html

GM,

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I'm curious about the newer Pioneers, I have the DVR-112D@DVR-112L 8.25 and it's great but I want/need another SATA burner to fill up the Gigabyte case I have. :D

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I recently installed a 215D for a friend that bought it, and It worked fine but it was the loudest drive I ever came across. When it spins up, it roars! I couldn't imagine it in an aluminum case! Maybe it was just that drive, but like I said, it works well, but too noisy for my tastes.

My preference is an Asus E616A2 for my DVD Rom and an NEC/Optiarc AD-7170A for the burner. The combination works very well together, and has for the last 3 computers. They are all I use, and I've sold a ton of them with no problems!

Best Regards,
Russ

sorry bout the OT... ;)

Russ I agree with your DVDRW choice. I have the SATA version of that and would have ZERO problems getting another one if I could find them. I've looked (although not extensively) at the usual haunts for me and haven't found them. I bought 2 at SMS about 6 months ago or so and they were cheap!! :D

Man I have a few scans to load but NO way to load them here. :P

Hey CincyBoy!!!! hehehehe. :P Hope all is well with you! :D

Happy St. Patty's Day to all!!!

....gm

@Mr.E

all is well here. ive left the system alone at 3.6ghz. been running there fine all weekend. not problem one. been burning some disc up he past few days. ive used some of them newer 16x+verbs you know the ugly packageing they have now.. i seem to like them.
as BlivetNC and a few others have commented on the verbs lately with the high amount of PIE's the first 5 disc i hve burnt out of this new batch all under 15000 pie's pretty nice i think. would like to see them under 10,000 but hey the drive has to learn them i guess. they code out the same as the older version(s)MCC004
just glad they arent the MII's..

GM,
The reason I line the Asus drive for my DVD-Rom is it will read disks that other drives won't! I've even managed to be able to burn an ISO and make a new disk on disks that wouldn't run in the NEC. I use both drives in all my 2 drive customer builds, and the only one that ever went bad was mine! My cheapo PS went south taking the DVD-Rom, which was running at the time of the fireworks, with it. 3 days left on the warranty from Newegg! No problem as they replaced it! I would really like a combo drive for CDs, but Silver seems to have disappeared. I have the ability to paint it, but I'm pretty sure that would void the warranty! LOL!!

Glad to hear your new rig is running smoothly!

Best Regards,
Russ

well im not sure on how loud it is(DVR-215D) but it sure seems next to impossible to find one. where did you happen to get them Russ? makes me want one even more now that it cant be found..lmao

im wanting 2 sata drive(really 3) but i have to take what i can afford right now...lol

cincyrob,
Here's a few places that have the 215D!
Span
http://www.span.com/catalog/product_info...us¤cy=USD

Platinum Micro
http://www.platinummicro.com/product.asp?pf_id=DRWPO215D

Megaware
http://www.megaware.com.au/index.php?mai...oducts_id=47150

Check them out.

Best Regards,
Russ

well thanks for the links Russ... guess i wont be getting one of them... cant have the white/beige drive in a all black case...lol