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Nero Burning validation false negatives

Discussion in 'Nero discussion' started by motobojo, Nov 1, 2005.

  1. motobojo

    motobojo Member

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    This is my first post to this forum. Apologies in advance if I'm clumsy. I've done a search on this problem, found some helpful information, taken what might be corrective action, but the problem still persists.

    I'm using Nero Burning ROM v6.6.0.16. I've also picked up the latest firmware for my DVD burner (Plextor PX-504A). DMA is enabled to the burner. I guess you'll see all that and so much more below in the log. Anyway, ...

    I'm using RiDATA 4x DVD+R (RICOHJPNR01.8) ... see detailed disc info below. I've been using this type of media for ages and have had good luck with my burner and players ... until now.

    Now NeroBR is giving me LOTS of validation errors. As best I can tell the errors are bogus (most of the time). For many of the apparentely failed burns I go and run Nero CD-DVD Speed's ScanDisc and it says everything is fine as far as it can tell. Then I play the DVD and it plays fine as well. Very infrequently I do get a real failure though, so it would be nice to have a reliable and less painful means of validating the burn.

    Oh, and the failures usually aren't subtle (i.e., just differences) they are the "can't access sector" sorts of errors that you'd expect to show up pretty severely in something like ScanDisc and playing it.

    Below you will find a log for one of the recent failed validations that apparently is false (ScanDisc & playing it say it is fine). It isn't the complete log because there were LOTS of "can't access sector" failures. The other really annoying thing is that the latest version of NeroBR seems to slow the validation WAY DOWN when it encounters these false failures. The older version at least skipped over them relatively quickly.

    Thanks in advance for any insight you can offer.

    -- motobojo.

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Nero CD-DVD Speed: Disc Info
    Basic Information
    Disc Type: : DVD-ROM
    Capacity: : 4.36 GB
    : 4465 MB
    : 4681957376 bytes
    Extended Information
    Layers : 1
    Copyright protection : n/a
    Region(s) : All
    Raw Data
    Physical Format Information (00h)
    0000 - A1 0F 02 00 00 03 00 00 00 25 E2 1F 00 00 00 00 - .........%......
    0010 - 00 00 01 52 49 43 4F 48 4A 50 4E 52 30 31 02 38 - ...RICOHJPNR01.8

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Windows XP 5.1
    IA32
    WinAspi: -
    ahead WinASPI: File 'C:\Program Files\Ahead\Nero\Wnaspi32.dll': Ver=2.0.1.74, size=164112 bytes, created 2004-10-26 6:35:34 PM
    Nero Version: 6.6.0.16
    Internal Version: 6, 6, 0, 16b

    Recorder: <PLEXTOR DVDR PX-504A> Version: 1.02 - HA 2 TA 0 - 6.6.0.16
    Adapter driver: <> HA 2
    Drive buffer : 2048kB
    Bus Type : default (0) -> ATAPI, detected: ?
    CD-ROM: <HL-DT-ST RW/DVD GCC-4241N>Version: 0C29 - HA 1 TA 0 - 6.6.0.16
    Adapter driver: <atapi> HA 1

    === Scsi-Device-Map ===
    DiskPeripheral : IC25N080ATMR04-0 atapi Port 0 ID 0 DMA: On
    CdRomPeripheral : HL-DT-ST RW/DVD GCC-4241N atapi Port 1 ID 0 DMA: On

    === CDRom-Device-Map ===
    HL-DT-ST RW/DVD GCC-4241N E: CDRom0
    PLEXTOR DVDR PX-504A D: CDRom2
    =======================

    AutoRun : 1
    Excluded drive IDs:
    WriteBufferSize: 74448896 (0) Byte
    ShowDrvBufStat : 0
    BUFE : 0
    Physical memory : 510MB (523248kB)
    Free physical memory: 183MB (187888kB)
    Memory in use : 64 %
    Uncached PFiles: 0x0
    Use Inquiry : 1
    Global Bus Type: default (0)
    Check supported media : Disabled (0)

    1.11.2005
    UDF/ISO compilation
    1:12:55 PM #1 Phase 112 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
    DVD-Video files reallocation started

    1:12:55 PM #2 Phase 114 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
    DVD-Video files reallocation completed (no file modified)

    1:12:55 PM #3 Text 0 File Isodoc.cpp, Line 6356
    UDF document burn settings
    ------------------------------------------
    Determine maximum speed : TRUE
    Simulate : FALSE
    Write : TRUE
    Finalize CD : TRUE
    Multisession : FALSE
    Burning mode : DAO
    Mode : 1
    UDF Mode : UDF/ISO bridge
    UDF Revision : 1.02
    UDF Partition Type : physical
    ISO Level : 2 (Max. of 31 chars)
    Character set : ISO 9660
    Joliet :FALSE
    Allow pathdepth more than 8 directories : TRUE
    Allow more than 255 characters in path : TRUE
    Write ISO9660 ;1 file extensions : TRUE

    1:12:55 PM #4 Phase 111 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
    DVD-Video files sorted

    1:12:55 PM #5 Text 0 File Reader.cpp, Line 127
    Reader running

    1:12:55 PM #6 Text 0 File Writer.cpp, Line 122
    Writer PLEXTOR DVDR PX-504A running

    1:12:55 PM #7 ISO9660GEN -11 File geniso.cpp, Line 3309
    First writeable address = 0 (0x00000000)

    1:12:55 PM #8 ISO9660GEN -11 File geniso.cpp, Line 3309
    First writeable address = 0 (0x00000000)

    1:12:55 PM #9 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 3233
    Turn on Disc-At-Once, using DVD media

    1:13:16 PM #10 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 270
    Last possible write address on media: 2295103 (510:01.28, 4482MB)
    Last address to be written: 2286111 (508:01.36, 4465MB)

    1:13:16 PM #11 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 282
    Write in overburning mode: NO

    1:13:16 PM #12 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 2483
    Recorder: PLEXTOR DVDR PX-504A, Media type: DVD+R

    1:13:16 PM #13 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 448
    >>> Protocol of DlgWaitCD activities: <<<
    =========================================
    Insert empty disc to write to.
    (Medium in drive: Unknown. Medium required by compilation: DVD+R/RW.)

    1:13:16 PM #14 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 838
    Setup items (after recorder preparation)
    0: TRM_DATA_MODE1 ()
    2 indices, index0 (150) not provided
    original disc pos #0 + 2286112 (2286112) = #2286112/508:1.37
    relocatable, disc pos for caching/writing not required/ required, no patch infos
    -> TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048, config 0, wanted index0 0 blocks, length 2286112 blocks [PLEXTOR DVDR PX-504A]
    --------------------------------------------------------------

    1:13:16 PM #15 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 1051
    Prepare recorder [PLEXTOR DVDR PX-504A] for write in CUE-sheet-DAO
    DAO infos:
    ==========
    MCN: ""
    TOCType: 0x00; Session Closed, disc fixated
    Tracks 1 to 1:
    1: TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048/0x00, FilePos 0 0 4681957376, ISRC ""
    DAO layout:
    ===========
    __Start_|____Track_|_Idx_|_CtrlAdr_|_RecDep__________
    0 | lead-in | 0 | 0x41 | 0x00
    0 | 1 | 0 | 0x41 | 0x00
    0 | 1 | 1 | 0x41 | 0x00
    2286112 | lead-out | 1 | 0x41 | 0x00

    1:13:16 PM #16 Phase 24 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
    Caching of files started

    1:13:16 PM #17 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 4120
    Cache writing successful.

    1:13:16 PM #18 Phase 25 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
    Caching of files completed

    1:13:16 PM #19 Phase 28 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
    Speed measurement started

    1:13:16 PM #20 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 2654
    Verifying disc position of item 0 (relocatable, disc pos, no patch infos, orig at #0): write at #0

    1:15:31 PM #21 Text 0 File WriterStatus.cpp, Line 116
    <PLEXTOR DVDR PX-504A > start writing Lead-Out at LBA 2286112 (22E220h), lenght 0 blocks

    1:15:31 PM #22 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 228
    all writers idle, stopping conversion

    1:15:31 PM #23 Phase 29 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1781
    Speed measurement completed: 25.1x (34,748 KB/s)

    1:15:31 PM #24 Phase 36 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
    Burn process started at 4x (5,540 KB/s)

    1:15:31 PM #25 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 2654
    Verifying disc position of item 0 (relocatable, disc pos, no patch infos, orig at #0): write at #0

    1:15:31 PM #26 SCSI -1066 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1180
    SCSI Exec, HA 2, TA 0, LUN 0, buffer 0x09760200
    Status: 0x04 (0x01, SCSI_ERR)
    HA-Status 0x00 (0x00, OK)
    TA-Status 0x02 (0x01, SCSI_TASTATUS_CHKCOND)
    Sense Key: 0x05 (KEY_ILLEGAL_REQUEST)
    Sense Code: 0x24
    Sense Qual: 0x00
    CDB Data: 0xAD 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x08 0x04 0x00 0x00
    Sense Data: 0x70 0x00 0x05 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x0A
    0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x24 0x00

    1:15:32 PM #27 Text 0 File DVDPlusRW.cpp, Line 665
    Start write address at LBA 0
    DVD high compatibility mode: Yes

    1:29:34 PM #28 Text 0 File WriterStatus.cpp, Line 116
    <PLEXTOR DVDR PX-504A > start writing Lead-Out at LBA 2286112 (22E220h), lenght 0 blocks

    1:29:34 PM #29 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 228
    all writers idle, stopping conversion

    1:29:50 PM #30 Phase 37 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
    Burn process completed successfully at 4x (5,540 KB/s)

    1:29:50 PM #31 Phase 78 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
    Data verification started

    1:45:25 PM #32 SCSI -1128 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1434
    SCSI Exec, HA 2, TA 0, LUN 0, buffer 0x09790A00
    Status: 0x04 (0x01, SCSI_ERR)
    HA-Status 0x00 (0x00, OK)
    TA-Status 0x02 (0x01, SCSI_TASTATUS_CHKCOND)
    Sense Key: 0x03 (KEY_MEDIUM_ERROR)
    Sense Code: 0x11
    Sense Qual: 0x00
    CDB Data: 0x28 0x00 0x00 0x1F 0x64 0x70 0x00 0x00 0x10 0x00 0x00 0x00
    Sense Data: 0xF0 0x00 0x03 0x00 0x1F 0x64 0x70 0x0A
    0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x11 0x00

    1:45:25 PM #33 SectorVerify 11 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 9938
    Sector 267635 on disc has different content to source

    1:45:42 PM #34 SCSI -1128 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1434
    SCSI Exec, HA 2, TA 0, LUN 0, buffer 0x09790A00
    Status: 0x04 (0x01, SCSI_ERR)
    HA-Status 0x00 (0x00, OK)
    TA-Status 0x02 (0x01, SCSI_TASTATUS_CHKCOND)
    Sense Key: 0x03 (KEY_MEDIUM_ERROR)
    Sense Code: 0x11
    Sense Qual: 0x00
    CDB Data: 0x28 0x00 0x00 0x1F 0x73 0x30 0x00 0x00 0x10 0x00 0x00 0x00
    Sense Data: 0xF0 0x00 0x03 0x00 0x1F 0x73 0x30 0x0A
    0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x11 0x00

    1:45:42 PM #35 SectorVerify 20 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 9938
    Read errors from sector 2057328 to 2057343

    1:45:50 PM #36 SCSI -1128 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1434
    SCSI Exec, HA 2, TA 0, LUN 0, buffer 0x09790A00
    Status: 0x04 (0x01, SCSI_ERR)
    HA-Status 0x00 (0x00, OK)
    TA-Status 0x02 (0x01, SCSI_TASTATUS_CHKCOND)
    Sense Key: 0x03 (KEY_MEDIUM_ERROR)
    Sense Code: 0x11
    Sense Qual: 0x00
    CDB Data: 0x28 0x00 0x00 0x1F 0x7A 0x50 0x00 0x00 0x10 0x00 0x00 0x00
    Sense Data: 0xF0 0x00 0x03 0x00 0x1F 0x7A 0x50 0x0A
    0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x11 0x00

    <snip>

    Existing drivers:
    File 'Drivers\CDRALW2K.SYS': Ver=6.1.1.8 , size=24698 bytes, created 2003-06-27 12:21:24 AM
    File 'Drivers\PXHELP20.SYS': Ver=2.02.62a, size=20016 bytes, created 2003-10-28 3:02:00 AM (Prassi/Veritas driver for win 2K)
    File 'Drivers\atapi.sys': Ver=5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158), size=95360 bytes, created 2004-08-03 9:59:44 PM (Adapter driver for src)

    Registry Keys:
    HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\WinLogon\AllocateCDROMs : 0 (Security Option)
     
  2. creaky

    creaky Moderator Staff Member

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    Hi and welcome...

    - hmmm, firmware seems to be up to date - http://forum.rpc1.org/dl_firmware.php?download_id=1530

    - that question mark seems to be ok as it looks like your burner is external to the PC

    - 4465MB is too close to outer edge of discs;

    if you're using DVD Shrink, set target size in Shrink's preferences to 4300MB, thus avoiding outer edge of discs and not sacrificing much space

    - a-ha - the burner's firmware is either out of date, or the firmware's up to date and the media you're using is too new for the firmware to know what to do with (or both!). when the firmware's able to properly recognise media you'd get a 3line paragraph similar to this example
    - what's happened there ?

    - hmmmm...not sure about that..

    - we need to investigate if there is newer firmware.

    - that's Roxio, it tends to interfere with Nero. uninstall Roxio, and you may have to google search for 'Roxio Zapper' to fully remove Roxio
     

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