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Video Quality using Gordian Knot

Discussion in 'DivX / XviD' started by alntht, Mar 17, 2003.

  1. alntht

    alntht Guest

    I just recently downloaded Gordian Knot (being an newbie I figured that was my best bet). I love it. Very simple to use.

    My question is how to get better video qualit. I follow the directions precisely from the how-to article and the quality is acceptable, but I was wondering if there is any way to get better quality with other settings. I am playing around a little with it, but my free time and the time that it takes are not working out to some serious testing. If anyone has any suggestions that they have found out through trial and error, they would be very much appreciated. By the by, I'm using a 1 DVD to 1 CD ratio so I know that the quality will never be perfect :)
     
  2. alntht

    alntht Guest

    Thanks for all the help, but I think I finally got something to work better. I just use mp3 instead of AC3...much more room for the movie=better quality video on one disk.
     
  3. Zaphresz

    Zaphresz Guest

    hi there, i downloaded Gordian Knot aswell but when i finished encoding i found out that it only made an mp3 file that was 150 min. long. i was woundering if you could give me some help on my settings. thanx.
     
  4. Shoey

    Shoey Guest

    Lookie here:http://www.afterdawn.com/articles/archive/gordian_knot_ac3.cfm

    Gordian Knot and Vidomi are highly recommended programs to make dvd2divx backups.

    Vidomi:http://www.vidomi.com/
    Vidomi guide:http://club.cdfreaks.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=59485

    Shoey
     
  5. folio

    folio Member

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    i have a question concerning the video quality of Gordian knot. I have twice followed the guide and it still keeps giving me the same results! The start of the films are great but around 40mins into the film the resolution goes haywire..its blocky and looks terrible!? can anyone explain why?! I followed all the right steps and used the gordian Knot 0.27 with the Divx 5.02 Pro codec...two passes did a compressibility test for a one cd...for a 1hr 40 film...heres one of the logs bit of a newbie to all this but liked the first 40mins of the results so much quality in it! Ive used Vidomi and DVDX2 but none compare to Gordian...Please help if any one can, i really would like to know how to get better results and what im doing wrong with Gordian Knot!?!
    thanks a lot!
    folio


    29/03/2003 18:58:58: Job "Test" started.

    o Transcode AC3 -> MP3: C:\ITALIANO_PARA_PRINCIPIANTES_SCN\VIDEO_TS\italiano AC3 T01 2_0ch 256Kbps DELAY 0ms.ac3
    o DivX5-Single, Quality 20%: C:\ITALIANO_PARA_PRINCIPIANTES_SCN\VIDEO_TS\italiano_Credits.avs
    o DivX5-First Pass: C:\ITALIANO_PARA_PRINCIPIANTES_SCN\VIDEO_TS\italiano.avs
    o DivX5-Second Pass: C:\ITALIANO_PARA_PRINCIPIANTES_SCN\VIDEO_TS\italiano.avs
    o Append Credits.
    o Delete Intermediate Files.
    End of Job 1 (Test).
    _______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

    Gordian Knot 0.27.0.13
    Encoding Job Data:

    Type: EncD5_Both_CreditsSep
    Number: 1
    Name: Test
    Platform: WinXP (5.1.2600).2

    Files:
    VirtualDubExe: C:\PROGRA~1\GORDIA~1\virtualdub\Virtualdub.exe
    NandubExe: C:\PROGRA~1\GORDIA~1\nandub\Nandub.exe
    AviFinal: C:\ITALIANO_PARA_PRINCIPIANTES_SCN\VIDEO_TS\italiano.avi
    AviMovie: C:\ITALIANO_PARA_PRINCIPIANTES_SCN\VIDEO_TS\italiano_Movie.avi
    AviCredits: C:\ITALIANO_PARA_PRINCIPIANTES_SCN\VIDEO_TS\italiano_Credits.avi
    MovieFS: C:\ITALIANO_PARA_PRINCIPIANTES_SCN\VIDEO_TS\italiano.avs
    CreditsFS: C:\ITALIANO_PARA_PRINCIPIANTES_SCN\VIDEO_TS\italiano_Credits.avs
    Log : C:\ITALIANO_PARA_PRINCIPIANTES_SCN\VIDEO_TS\italiano.log
    Stats: C:\ITALIANO_PARA_PRINCIPIANTES_SCN\VIDEO_TS\italiano.stats
    Ecf : C:\ITALIANO_PARA_PRINCIPIANTES_SCN\VIDEO_TS\italiano.ecf

    Options:
    Quality/DRF: 20
    CreditsStart: 60726
    UseEcf: 1
    CreditsIVTC: 0
    CreditsAppend: 1
    DeleteInterm.: 1
    EnforceBitrate:0
    AntiShit: 0

    Calculator:
    VideoSize: 619670 kbyte.
    Audio1Size: 88234 kbyte.
    Audio2Size: 0 kbyte.
    Overhead: 8895 kbyte.
    AviSize: 716800 kbyte (700 mbyte).
    FilesSize: 0 kbyte.
    TotalSize: 716800 kbyte (700 mbyte).
    Interleaving: vbrmp3
    Bitrate: 899 k(=1000)Bits/s
    Frames: 141172
    FPS: 25.000
    Duration: 1:34:7
    Quality: 0.223 bits/(pixel*frame).
    CompCheck3: 0.000 bits/(pixel*frame).
    CompCheck5: 0.343 bits/(pixel*frame).
    DivX5BiDirect: 1
    DivX5GMC: 1
    DivX5QuartPel: 0
    DivX5PsyVis: 1
    Resolution: 480 x 336

    Audio 1:
    mode: ac3 -> mp3
    sourceFile: C:\ITALIANO_PARA_PRINCIPIANTES_SCN\VIDEO_TS\italiano AC3 T01 2_0ch 256Kbps DELAY 0ms.ac3
    wavFile: C:\ITALIANO_PARA_PRINCIPIANTES_SCN\VIDEO_TS\italiano AC3 T01 2_0ch 256Kbps DELAY 0ms.wav
    mp3File: C:\ITALIANO_PARA_PRINCIPIANTES_SCN\VIDEO_TS\italiano AC3 T01 2_0ch 256Kbps DELAY 0ms.mp3
    azid: "-c normal"
    lame: "-h --abr 128"
    delay: 0
    interval: 2
    preload: 500
    mux: 1
    recalc: 1
    deleteWav: 1

    Audio 2:
    none.


    18:58:58: Started Transcoding Audio.

    18:58:58: Using BeSweet to transcode C:\ITALIANO_PARA_PRINCIPIANTES_SCN\VIDEO_TS\italiano AC3 T01 2_0ch 256Kbps DELAY 0ms.ac3
    Commandline: C:\PROGRA~1\GORDIA~1\besweet.exe -core( -input "C:\ITALIANO_PARA_PRINCIPIANTES_SCN\VIDEO_TS\italiano AC3 T01 2_0ch 256Kbps DELAY 0ms.ac3" -output "C:\ITALIANO_PARA_PRINCIPIANTES_SCN\VIDEO_TS\italiano AC3 T01 2_0ch 256Kbps DELAY 0ms.mp3" -logfile "C:\ITALIANO_PARA_PRINCIPIANTES_SCN\VIDEO_TS\italiano AC3 T01 2_0ch 256Kbps DELAY 0ms.log" ) -ota( -hybridgain ) -azid( -c normal ) -lame( -h --abr 128 ) -profile( Gordian Knot 0.27 )
    19:09:59: Finished. Duration: 11 minutes, 1 second.

    19:09:59: Audio Done.
    19:09:59: MP3-File-Size is 80552 kb.
    19:09:59: Audio 1, determined: 80552 kb
    19:09:59: Audio 1, calc: 88234 kb
    19:09:59: New Bitrate for Movie = 910 k(=1000)Bits/s

    Adding this script to C:\PROGRA~1\GORDIA~1\virtualdub\VirtualDub.jobs:

    // $job "DivX4 Single Pass"
    // $input "C:\ITALIANO_PARA_PRINCIPIANTES_SCN\VIDEO_TS\italiano_Credits.avs"
    // $output "C:\ITALIANO_PARA_PRINCIPIANTES_SCN\VIDEO_TS\italiano_Credits.avi"
    // $state 0
    // $start_time 0 0
    // $end_time 0 0
    // $script

    VirtualDub.Open("C:\\ITALIANO_PARA_PRINCIPIANTES_SCN\\VIDEO_TS\\italiano_Credits.avs",0,0);
    VirtualDub.audio.SetSource(0);
    VirtualDub.audio.SetMode(0);
    VirtualDub.audio.SetInterleave(1,0,0,0,0);
    VirtualDub.audio.SetClipMode(1,1);
    VirtualDub.audio.SetConversion(0,0,0,0,0);
    VirtualDub.audio.SetVolume();
    VirtualDub.audio.SetCompression();
    VirtualDub.video.SetDepth(24,24);
    VirtualDub.video.SetMode(1);
    VirtualDub.video.SetFrameRate(0,1);
    VirtualDub.video.SetIVTC(0,0,-1,0);
    VirtualDub.video.SetRange(0,0);
    VirtualDub.video.SetCompression(0x78766964,0,10000,0);
    VirtualDub.video.SetCompData(308,"GAEAAACgDwDQBwAACgAAABQAAAAsAQAADAAAAAIAAAAFAAAAAQAAAMgAAAAAAAAAAAAAAB4AAABkAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAgAAAyAAAAAQAAAAAQAACamZmZmZnJP5qZmZmZmck/QAAAAAEAAACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAIACAADgAQAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAOA/AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABAAAAAQAAAAEAAAABAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABAAAAAAAAAAEAAAD/////BAAAAGVtcHR5AGM6XHRlc3QuZGl2eABlbXB0eS5tdgBt");
    VirtualDub.video.filters.Clear();
    VirtualDub.subset.Delete();
    VirtualDub.SaveAVI("C:\\ITALIANO_PARA_PRINCIPIANTES_SCN\\VIDEO_TS\\italiano_Credits.avi");
    VirtualDub.Close();

    // $endjob
    //
    //--------------------------------------------------
    // $done

    19:09:59: Started DivX5-Single, Quality 20%: C:\ITALIANO_PARA_PRINCIPIANTES_SCN\VIDEO_TS\italiano_Credits.avs
    20:37:42: Finished DivX5-Single, Quality 20%. Duration: 1 hour, 27 minutes, 42 seconds.
    20:37:42: Assumed: Main Movie has 60726 Frames.
    20:37:42: Assumed: Credits Part has 80446 Frames.
    20:37:42: Credits Size = 65942Kb
    20:37:42: New Bitrate for Movie = 1893 k(=1000)Bits/s

    Adding this script to C:\PROGRA~1\GORDIA~1\virtualdub\VirtualDub.jobs:

    // $job "DivX4 First Pass"
    // $input "C:\ITALIANO_PARA_PRINCIPIANTES_SCN\VIDEO_TS\italiano.avs"
    // $output "C:\ITALIANO_PARA_PRINCIPIANTES_SCN\VIDEO_TS\italiano_Movie.avi"
    // $state 0
    // $start_time 0 0
    // $end_time 0 0
    // $script

    VirtualDub.Open("C:\\ITALIANO_PARA_PRINCIPIANTES_SCN\\VIDEO_TS\\italiano.avs",0,0);
    VirtualDub.audio.SetSource(0);
    VirtualDub.audio.SetMode(0);
    VirtualDub.audio.SetInterleave(1,0,0,0,0);
    VirtualDub.audio.SetClipMode(1,1);
    VirtualDub.audio.SetConversion(0,0,0,0,0);
    VirtualDub.audio.SetVolume();
    VirtualDub.audio.SetCompression();
    VirtualDub.video.SetDepth(24,24);
    VirtualDub.video.SetMode(1);
    VirtualDub.video.SetFrameRate(0,1);
    VirtualDub.video.SetIVTC(0,0,-1,0);
    VirtualDub.video.SetRange(0,0);
    VirtualDub.video.SetCompression(0x78766964,0,10000,0);
    VirtualDub.video.SetCompData(406,"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");
    VirtualDub.video.filters.Clear();
    VirtualDub.subset.Delete();
    VirtualDub.SaveAVI("C:\\ITALIANO_PARA_PRINCIPIANTES_SCN\\VIDEO_TS\\italiano_Movie.avi");
    VirtualDub.Close();

    // $endjob
    //
    //--------------------------------------------------
    // $done

    20:37:42: Started DivX5-First Pass: C:\ITALIANO_PARA_PRINCIPIANTES_SCN\VIDEO_TS\italiano.avs
    22:24:07: Finished DivX5-First Pass. Duration: 1 hour, 46 minutes, 24 seconds.
    22:24:07: Trying to open Log-file.
    22:24:11: Success: Log-file open.
    22:24:11: Encoded: 60725 Frames.
    22:24:11: Speed: 9.511 Frames per Second.

    Adding this script to C:\PROGRA~1\GORDIA~1\virtualdub\VirtualDub.jobs:

    // $job "DivX4 Second Pass"
    // $input "C:\ITALIANO_PARA_PRINCIPIANTES_SCN\VIDEO_TS\italiano.avs"
    // $output "C:\ITALIANO_PARA_PRINCIPIANTES_SCN\VIDEO_TS\italiano_Movie.avi"
    // $state 0
    // $start_time 0 0
    // $end_time 0 0
    // $script

    VirtualDub.Open("C:\\ITALIANO_PARA_PRINCIPIANTES_SCN\\VIDEO_TS\\italiano.avs",0,0);
    VirtualDub.audio.SetSource(0);
    VirtualDub.audio.SetMode(0);
    VirtualDub.audio.SetInterleave(1,0,0,0,0);
    VirtualDub.audio.SetClipMode(1,1);
    VirtualDub.audio.SetConversion(0,0,0,0,0);
    VirtualDub.audio.SetVolume();
    VirtualDub.audio.SetCompression();
    VirtualDub.video.SetDepth(24,24);
    VirtualDub.video.SetMode(1);
    VirtualDub.video.SetFrameRate(0,1);
    VirtualDub.video.SetIVTC(0,0,-1,0);
    VirtualDub.video.SetRange(0,0);
    VirtualDub.video.SetCompression(0x78766964,0,10000,0);
    VirtualDub.video.SetCompData(406,"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");
    VirtualDub.video.filters.Clear();
    VirtualDub.subset.Delete();
    VirtualDub.SaveAVI("C:\\ITALIANO_PARA_PRINCIPIANTES_SCN\\VIDEO_TS\\italiano_Movie.avi");
    VirtualDub.Close();

    // $endjob
    //
    //--------------------------------------------------
    // $done

    22:24:11: Started DivX5-Second Pass: C:\ITALIANO_PARA_PRINCIPIANTES_SCN\VIDEO_TS\italiano.avs
    23:24:31: Finished DivX5-Second Pass. Duration: 1 hour, 0 minutes, 20 seconds.
    23:24:31: Speed: 16.774 Frames per Second.

    Adding this script to C:\PROGRA~1\GORDIA~1\nandub\VirtualDub.jobs:

    // $job "DivX3 Append"
    // $input "C:\ITALIANO_PARA_PRINCIPIANTES_SCN\VIDEO_TS\italiano_Movie.avi"
    // $output "C:\ITALIANO_PARA_PRINCIPIANTES_SCN\VIDEO_TS\italiano.avi"
    // $state 0
    // $start_time 0 0
    // $end_time 0 0
    // $script

    VirtualDub.Open("C:\\ITALIANO_PARA_PRINCIPIANTES_SCN\\VIDEO_TS\\italiano_Movie.avi",0,0);
    VirtualDub.Append("C:\\ITALIANO_PARA_PRINCIPIANTES_SCN\\VIDEO_TS\\italiano_Credits.avi");
    VirtualDub.audio.SetSource("C:\\ITALIANO_PARA_PRINCIPIANTES_SCN\\VIDEO_TS\\italiano AC3 T01 2_0ch 256Kbps DELAY 0ms.mp3");
    VirtualDub.audio.SetMode(0);
    VirtualDub.audio.SetInterleave(1,500,2,0,0);
    VirtualDub.audio.SetClipMode(1,1);
    VirtualDub.audio.SetConversion(0,0,0,0,0);
    VirtualDub.audio.SetVolume();
    VirtualDub.audio.SetCompression();
    VirtualDub.audio2.SetSource(0);
    VirtualDub.audio2.SetMode(0);
    VirtualDub.audio2.SetInterleave(1,0,0,0,0);
    VirtualDub.audio2.SetClipMode(1,1);
    VirtualDub.audio2.SetConversion(0,0,0,0,0);
    VirtualDub.audio2.SetVolume();
    VirtualDub.audio2.SetCompression();
    VirtualDub.video.SetDepth(24,24);
    VirtualDub.video.SetMode(0);
    VirtualDub.video.SetFrameRate(0,1);
    VirtualDub.video.SetIVTC(0,0,-1,0);
    VirtualDub.video.SetRange(0,0);
    VirtualDub.video.SetCompression();
    VirtualDub.video.filters.Clear();
    VirtualDub.subset.Delete();
    VirtualDub.SaveAVI("C:\\ITALIANO_PARA_PRINCIPIANTES_SCN\\VIDEO_TS\\italiano.avi");
    VirtualDub.Close();

    // $endjob
    //
    //--------------------------------------------------
    // $done

    23:24:31: Started Appending Credits and Muxing Audio.: C:\ITALIANO_PARA_PRINCIPIANTES_SCN\VIDEO_TS\italiano_Movie.avi
    23:27:40: Finished Appending Credits and Muxing Audio.. Duration: 3 minutes, 7 seconds.
    23:27:40: Deleting Intermediate Files.

    23:27:40: Done.
    23:27:40: Movie = C:\ITALIANO_PARA_PRINCIPIANTES_SCN\VIDEO_TS\italiano.avi
    Total Encoding Time: 4 hours, 28 minutes, 41 seconds.
    29/03/2003 23:27:40: Job "Test" finished.
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