BLURAY VS HD-DVD quality wise
#51
06 Aug 2007 @ 7:43
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its not gonna surprise me if both formats survive...dual format players are available and even though blu-ray has alot more studio support it doesnt seem like they're selling more discs. I doubt i'll buy either of the formats for a while.
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#52
06 Aug 2007 @ 23:51
It wouldn't surprise me either. It seems that the all mighty dollar wins again. Movie studios and manufactures are starting to understand that if they ever want to move these formats into the mainstream they need to make it easier for the consumer.
LG and Samsung, the biggest Blu-Ray supporters, are both releasing Dual format players (2nd gen for LG). WB has shown off a disc that will have Blu-Ray on one side and HD DVD on the other. They are planning to do all of their movies this way starting this holiday season and encourage other studios to do the same.
Denon, one of the most well known high end brands, has just released the first truly exceptional high-def player for any format. It is a Blu-Ray player but the company has stated that they do not support the Blu-Ray format. The only thing they respect is supply and demand. So if their customers start screaming for HD DVD or a Dual format player, they will happily appease them with such solution.
At the end of the day you have to put food on the table!
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LG and Samsung, the biggest Blu-Ray supporters, are both releasing Dual format players (2nd gen for LG). WB has shown off a disc that will have Blu-Ray on one side and HD DVD on the other. They are planning to do all of their movies this way starting this holiday season and encourage other studios to do the same.
Denon, one of the most well known high end brands, has just released the first truly exceptional high-def player for any format. It is a Blu-Ray player but the company has stated that they do not support the Blu-Ray format. The only thing they respect is supply and demand. So if their customers start screaming for HD DVD or a Dual format player, they will happily appease them with such solution.
At the end of the day you have to put food on the table!
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#53
07 Aug 2007 @ 5:23
After reading through some of the posts here, some have said either this format or that format has a sharper picture etc.
To be blunt, what a load of rubbish! Mods, please excuse my up front words while I explain.
We are talking about two types of optical media storage, and what do they hold??... Data! So we are talking about digital video. The ONLY, and I repeat ONLY factors that affect performance with the discs would be things like storage capability, data transfer, durability, life span etc.
For things like picture and sound to be affected, the variance must come from other things, like the codecs being used, the decoder chips inside the player, the display being used, the AV receiver decoding the sound etc. etc.
There are way too many variables that could affect picture and sound quality. How could it possibly be the discs? They simply hold data.
To be blunt, what a load of rubbish! Mods, please excuse my up front words while I explain.
We are talking about two types of optical media storage, and what do they hold??... Data! So we are talking about digital video. The ONLY, and I repeat ONLY factors that affect performance with the discs would be things like storage capability, data transfer, durability, life span etc.
For things like picture and sound to be affected, the variance must come from other things, like the codecs being used, the decoder chips inside the player, the display being used, the AV receiver decoding the sound etc. etc.
There are way too many variables that could affect picture and sound quality. How could it possibly be the discs? They simply hold data.
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#54
07 Aug 2007 @ 5:42
Well stated Ryu77. Like I said the formats are the same on paper.
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#55
07 Aug 2007 @ 9:19
I'm not about to buy either...beta had better quality, but eveyone that bought a beta deck got screwed just because VHS was better for porn. I'll wait 'till one dies out (by then there should be 100x hd-dvd anyhow).
#56
10 Aug 2007 @ 5:01
My son had the Sony PS3 before I got a LG high def 32 in. TV.
We were at Circuit city looking at HD Players, then I looked at the Sony Blu-ray, Chicken Little. I was sold , almost..After some research and price comparison, I finally desided to purchase another Playstation for the Family room HDTV. Bang for the buck the playstation seems a no-brainer to me. A high end Blu-ray player, ( at half the price of a compariable one) with game playing, music downloading, pictures, Internet capabilities, storage, and more. Plus when the game and movie makers figure out how to use all that extra space on the Blu-rau disc..well, watch out!
Would be interested in you guys take...
We were at Circuit city looking at HD Players, then I looked at the Sony Blu-ray, Chicken Little. I was sold , almost..After some research and price comparison, I finally desided to purchase another Playstation for the Family room HDTV. Bang for the buck the playstation seems a no-brainer to me. A high end Blu-ray player, ( at half the price of a compariable one) with game playing, music downloading, pictures, Internet capabilities, storage, and more. Plus when the game and movie makers figure out how to use all that extra space on the Blu-rau disc..well, watch out!
Would be interested in you guys take...
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#57
13 Aug 2007 @ 7:37
Im glad you appreciate HD content but...
Have you ever heard of the Xbox 360 and its HD DVD drive that together cost less than a PS3?
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Have you ever heard of the Xbox 360 and its HD DVD drive that together cost less than a PS3?
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#58
03 Sep 2007 @ 15:30
I'm curious as to where you're shopping, diabolos... XBox Elite: $450, HD addon: $180, total: $630. PS3, 60GB: $500, 80GB w/ extras: $600. I guess if you meant the Pro system, you drop to $530, which is still more than the comparable "base" PS3. I think if you pair the systems up as closely as possible given the different specs, the price tag is still a bit lower for the PS3, and the PS3 is a single unit that doesn't require an extra box to play HD DVDs. I never really understood that decision, to be honest. It's a complete turnoff to me to spend extra money to play a format that should have been incorporated into the player from the start. And to release the "Elite" model without that functionality seems even sillier, given they had to redesign the thing anyway to deal with the defects present in the first model.
I'd say most, including myself, are more than aware of the ability of the XB360 to play HD DVDs, but aren't that thrilled with the implementation.
I'd say most, including myself, are more than aware of the ability of the XB360 to play HD DVDs, but aren't that thrilled with the implementation.
#59
26 Dec 2007 @ 15:12
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General consensus seems to say that quality wise, HD and Blu-Ray are equal more or less. However, cost wise they are not. Over the holidays, HD movies were $25, and Blu-ray were $29 - $35. Some HD players were down to $200, Blu-ray $300. If you look at buying 1 movie a month, at the end of the year, you will have spent $48 to $120 more to buy the same 12 movies. And your costs will go up exponentially if you buy more movies. I like the idea of HD on one side and BR on the other; however, again what will be the cost? I was a consumer during the VHS/Beta battle; Beta was not that much better, considering its cost. Bear in mind, my first VHS player cost $1000.00 and the first release of "Star Wars" on VHS was $100.00. 1981 was the year. No matter on which side you stand, the consumer drives the marketplace and if Sony has not learned its lesson from the VHS/Beta war, it is doomed to repeat it. Used to be that Sony was the number 1 rated electronic in the world; they do make a good product, but they are not the only game in town. They have lost market share as their prices have remained high.
#60
11 Jan 2008 @ 12:46
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#61
11 Jan 2008 @ 12:51
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#62
11 Jan 2008 @ 19:00
I have both formats because I want more choices for high-def movies. I have been buying more Blu-Ray lately because of the titles that were not released on HD-DVD.
Personally my only leaning for HD-DVD is the better user interface. For example, I like the time bar on-screen during pause, FF, and REW. It is similar to TiVo.
I read reviews on HighDefDigest.com before I purchase my high-def movies. Specially when they come out on both formats. It kills me when a review says the transfer is barely better than the SD version. I won't pay money for those.
I have the Xbox 360 for HD-DVD and the PS3 for Blu-Ray in my home theater. I'm sitting ten feet away from a 62" 1080P DLP TV. Picture quality (to my eyes) is just fantastic on both formats. Life is good.
I hate the format war however and wish it would stop. I say create dual-format players and let Blu-Ray and HD-DVD fight it out forever. We win in the end when there is heated competition (good prices and features).
Personally my only leaning for HD-DVD is the better user interface. For example, I like the time bar on-screen during pause, FF, and REW. It is similar to TiVo.
I read reviews on HighDefDigest.com before I purchase my high-def movies. Specially when they come out on both formats. It kills me when a review says the transfer is barely better than the SD version. I won't pay money for those.
I have the Xbox 360 for HD-DVD and the PS3 for Blu-Ray in my home theater. I'm sitting ten feet away from a 62" 1080P DLP TV. Picture quality (to my eyes) is just fantastic on both formats. Life is good.
I hate the format war however and wish it would stop. I say create dual-format players and let Blu-Ray and HD-DVD fight it out forever. We win in the end when there is heated competition (good prices and features).
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#63
11 Jan 2008 @ 19:00
Hello mrmollusk?
Is everything ok there buddy? Are you choking or something? I can send an ambulance if you need one.
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#64
11 Jan 2008 @ 19:09
Originally posted by Ryu77:lol - I was trying to figure out what he was saying!!
Hello mrmollusk?
Is everything ok there buddy? Are you choking or something? I can send an ambulance if you need one.
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#65
13 Jan 2008 @ 8:06
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there should be absolutely no difference in quality if they are encoded the same.
for hi-def, there are still too many last gen mpeg2, 5.1 sound, encodes out there which is lame, you may as well stick with the DVD upscaled at less than half the cost of the Hi-Def (lmfao) equivalent!
for hi-def, there are still too many last gen mpeg2, 5.1 sound, encodes out there which is lame, you may as well stick with the DVD upscaled at less than half the cost of the Hi-Def (lmfao) equivalent!
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