HELP! Recent problems burning, tried many things already!

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  1. Nemesys

    Nemesys Member

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    Hello all:

    I'll start in with this, first post here, although I have been reading on this forum for quite some time, and have been burning / copying DVD's for years, paid $300 for my first 2.4x burner and have been going at it ever since. In a nutshell, I've copied around 1000 movies, so I'm not exactly a newb at this.

    But alas, for the last couple weeks I have been having some HUGE problems with all movies that I have copied. About 50% of them will just plain not load, the other 50% of them will play about 10 - 20 minutes into the film and then begin to chop up badly, eventually locking up the DVD player. I have tried these movies in four different DVD players, a newer JVC, an older JVC, XBox, and PS2. Same trouble on all of them. However they play fine on the computer that burned them, and the video files on the hard drive also play fine.

    I have been using TDK media for a while now without any problems, but I have also tried HP blanks. Having the problem with both. Also have tried this on two different computers, same problems.

    Running AnyDVD 5.8.3.1 in the background, using Shrink to rip / encode, and Nero 6.6 to burn. I have also tried using Roxio to burn, same problems. Also have tried using DVDFab to rip and DVD Decrypter.

    Movies I burned in the past still play just fine on all of these players. All the movies I have ever burned have been on +R media, these included, and I have never had any issues with +R media.

    The ones I have been fighting with recently are 40 year old virign, southpark season 7, cinderella man, lord of war, history of violence, mr and mrs smith, and eternal sunshine of the spotless mind just to name a few.

    I'm at a complete loss here. About to buy a new burner and dvd player if nothing else presents itself.

    Thank you all for the help

    ~Nem
     
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  2. ps2hacka

    ps2hacka Guest

    hello,

    maybe you need to buy some proper disks like verbatims or taiyo yudens

    not a big fan of TDK to be honest,and those HP disks are even worse

    try booktyping a disk to DVD-ROM (if you burner allows this,as not all of them do),this might help

    cheers!!
     
  3. creaky

    creaky Moderator Staff Member

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    let's have LAST section of your Nero log which lives in c:\program files\ahead\nero\nerohistory.log but DO NOT post your serial number which usually begins with '1A21' or similar.

    You can differentiate sections via this section divider "====== *** Nero-Burning Rom, History File *** ======"

    also Roxio interferes with Nero, but we'll see that in the logfile. I concur with ps2hacka about the TDK and HP discs..
     
  4. Nemesys

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    Well I ran DVD Identifier on the HP and the TDK media, both returned the exact same thing

    ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Unique Disc Identifier : [DVD+R:CMC MAG-M01-000]
    ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Disc & Book Type : [DVD+R] - [DVD+R]
    Manufacturer Name : [CMC Magnetics Corp.]
    Manufacturer ID : [CMC MAG]
    Media Type ID : [M01]
    Product Revision : [Not Specified]
    Blank Disc Capacity : [2,295,104 Sectors = 4.70 GB (4.38 GiB)]
    Recording Speeds : [1x-2.4x , 4x , 6x-8x , 6x-16x]
    ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
    [ DVD Identifier V4.3.0 - http://DVD.Identifier.CDfreaks.com ]
    ----------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Booted into OSX86 and used Toast 6 to burn with the same problem. I was able to use an older DL I had laying around and it burned / played with no problems. I am suspecting now that it is just a media issue with my burners. I already flashed the latest firmware into the drive. I'm going to attempt to return these 200 TDK dvd's to Costco and just order some 8x Taiyo Yuden's from supermediacenter.com

    Here is the last entry from what I can tell in the Nero history log

    ====== *** Nero-Burning Rom, History File *** ======
    Doug

    xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx

    Windows XP 5.1
    IA32
    WinAspi: -
    ahead WinASPI: File 'C:\Program Files\Ahead\Nero\Wnaspi32.dll': Ver=2.0.1.74, size=164112 bytes, created 10/26/2004 7:35:34 PM
    Nero Version: 6.6.0.15
    Internal Version: 6, 6, 0, 15h

    Recorder: <DVDRW DRW-3S163> Version: BSG5 - HA 0 TA 3 - 6.6.0.15
    Adapter driver: <nvata> HA 0
    Drive buffer : 2048kB
    Bus Type : default (0) -> ATAPI, detected: ?
    CD-ROM: <DVDRW DRW-3S163 >Version: BSG5 - HA 0 TA 3 - 6.6.0.15
    Adapter driver: <nvata> HA 0

    === Scsi-Device-Map ===
    DiskPeripheral : Maxtor 6Y120P0 nvata Port 0 ID 0 DMA: Off
    DiskPeripheral : Maxtor 6Y160P0 nvata Port 0 ID 1 DMA: Off
    DiskPeripheral : HDS722516VLAT20 nvata Port 0 ID 2 DMA: Off
    CdRomPeripheral : DVDRW DRW-3S163 nvata Port 0 ID 3 DMA: Off
    OtherPeripheral : SI Pseudo Device 0000 Si3114r5 Port 3 ID 31 DMA: Off
    CdRomPeripheral : AXV CD/DVD-ROM 2.2a a347scsi Port 4 ID 0 DMA: Off

    === CDRom-Device-Map ===
    DVDRW DRW-3S163 F: CDRom3
    AXV CD/DVD-ROM H: CDRom1
    =======================

    AutoRun : 1
    Excluded drive IDs:
    WriteBufferSize: 83886080 (0) Byte
    ShowDrvBufStat : 0
    BUFE : 0
    Physical memory : 1023MB (1048048kB)
    Free physical memory: 499MB (511252kB)
    Memory in use : 51
    Uncached PFiles: 0x0
    Use Inquiry : 1
    Global Bus Type: default (0)
    Check supported media : Disabled (0)

    8.4.2006
    UDF/ISO compilation
    12:06:56 AM #1 Phase 112 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
    DVD-Video files reallocation started

    12:06:56 AM #2 Phase 114 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
    DVD-Video files reallocation completed (no file modified)

    12:06:56 AM #3 Text 0 File Isodoc.cpp, Line 6314
    Iso document burn settings
    ------------------------------------------
    Determine maximum speed : FALSE
    Simulate : FALSE
    Write : TRUE
    Finalize CD : TRUE
    Multisession : FALSE
    Burning mode : DAO
    Mode : 1
    ISO Level : 1 (Max. of 11 = 8 + 3 char)
    Character set : ISO 9660
    Joliet :FALSE
    Allow pathdepth more than 8 directories : TRUE
    Allow more than 255 characters in path : TRUE
    Write ISO9660 ;1 file extensions : TRUE

    12:06:56 AM #4 Phase 111 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
    DVD-Video files sorted

    12:06:56 AM #5 Text 0 File Reader.cpp, Line 127
    Reader running

    12:06:56 AM #6 Text 0 File Writer.cpp, Line 122
    Writer DVDRW DRW-3S163 running

    12:06:56 AM #7 ISO9660GEN -11 File geniso.cpp, Line 3309
    First writeable address = 0 (0x00000000)

    12:06:56 AM #8 ISO9660GEN -11 File geniso.cpp, Line 3309
    First writeable address = 0 (0x00000000)

    12:06:56 AM #9 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 3231
    Turn on Disc-At-Once, using DVD media

    12:06:56 AM #10 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 269
    Last possible write address on media: 2295103 (510:01.28, 4482MB)
    Last address to be written: 2286111 (508:01.36, 4465MB)

    12:06:56 AM #11 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 281
    Write in overburning mode: NO (enabled: CD)

    12:06:56 AM #12 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 2477
    Recorder: DVDRW DRW-3S163, Media type: DVD+R
    Disc Manufacturer ID: CMC MAG, Media Type ID: M01, Product revision number: 0
    Disc Application Code: 0, Extended Information Indicators: 7

    12:06:56 AM #13 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 447
    >>> Protocol of DlgWaitCD activities: <<<
    =========================================

    12:06:56 AM #14 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 830
    Setup items (after recorder preparation)
    0: TRM_DATA_MODE1 ()
    2 indices, index0 (150) not provided
    original disc pos #0 + 2286112 (2286112) = #2286112/508:1.37
    relocatable, disc pos for caching/writing not required/ required, no patch infos
    -> TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048, config 0, wanted index0 0 blocks, length 2286112 blocks [DVDRW DRW-3S163]
    --------------------------------------------------------------

    12:06:56 AM #15 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 1043
    Prepare recorder [DVDRW DRW-3S163] for write in CUE-sheet-DAO
    DAO infos:
    ==========
    MCN: ""
    TOCType: 0x00; Session Closed, disc fixated
    Tracks 1 to 1:
    1: TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048/0x00, FilePos 0 0 4681957376, ISRC ""
    DAO layout:
    ===========
    __Start_|____Track_|_Idx_|_CtrlAdr_|_RecDep__________
    0 | lead-in | 0 | 0x41 | 0x00
    0 | 1 | 0 | 0x41 | 0x00
    0 | 1 | 1 | 0x41 | 0x00
    2286112 | lead-out | 1 | 0x41 | 0x00

    12:06:56 AM #16 Phase 24 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
    Caching of files started

    12:06:56 AM #17 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 4116
    Cache writing successful.

    12:06:56 AM #18 Phase 25 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
    Caching of files completed

    12:06:56 AM #19 Phase 36 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
    Burn process started at 16x (22,160 KB/s)

    12:06:56 AM #20 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 2643
    Verifying disc position of item 0 (relocatable, disc pos, no patch infos, orig at #0): write at #0

    12:06:56 AM #21 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 8821
    ---- DVD Structure: Physical Format Information (00h) ----
    Layer: 0, Address: 0 (0 h), AGID: 0; Length: 2050
    Book Type: DVD+R (10), Part Version: 1
    Disc Size: 120 mm, Maximum Rate: <not specified> (F h)
    Number of Layers: 1, Track Path: Parallel Track Path (PTP), Layer Type: recordable
    Linear Density: 0,267 um/bit, Track Density: 0,74 um/track
    Starting Physical Sector Number of Data Area: 30000 h (DVD-ROM, DVD-R/-RW, DVD+R/+RW)
    End Physical Sector Number of Data Area: 26053F h
    End Sector Number in Layer 0: 0 h (LBN: FFFD0000 h, 4193920 MB)
    Data in Burst Cutting Area (BCA) does not exist
    Disc Application Code: 0 / 0 h
    Extended Information indicators: 7 h
    Disc Manufacturer ID: CMC.MAG.
    Media type ID: M01
    Product revision number: 0
    Number of Physical format information bytes in use in ADIP up to byte 63: 56
    Media Specific [16..63]:
    00 00 07 43 4D 43 20 4D - 41 47 00 4D 30 31 00 38 ...CMC.MAG.M01.8
    23 54 37 18 00 3E 6E 00 - 70 62 15 15 0B 0B 08 08 #T7..>n.pb......
    01 19 1B 0B 0B 0E 0F 01 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................

    12:06:56 AM #22 Text 0 File DVDPlusRW.cpp, Line 663
    Start write address at LBA 0
    DVD high compatibility mode: Yes

    12:17:19 AM #23 Text 0 File WriterStatus.cpp, Line 116
    <DVDRW DRW-3S163 > start writing Lead-Out at LBA 2286112 (22E220h), lenght 0 blocks

    12:17:19 AM #24 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 228
    all writers idle, stopping conversion

    12:17:52 AM #25 Phase 37 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
    Burn process completed successfully at 16x (22,160 KB/s)


    Existing drivers:
    File 'Drivers\nvata.sys': Ver=5.10.2600.0534 built by: WinDDK, size=92800 bytes, created 5/17/2005 2:45:08 AM (Adapter driver for rec)

    Registry Keys:
    HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\WinLogon\AllocateCDROMs : 0 (Security Option)

    Thanks for the help and suggestions.

    ~Nem
     
  5. ps2hacka

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    hello,

    what exactly is the problem,...?,it says it burnt successfully,although at a crazy speed of x 15,you are asking for trouble
    also DMA is not enabled

    cheers!
     
  6. Nemesys

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    The problem is that NONE of these will play in ANY DVD player that I have found. As far is it burning at 15x, thats a joke, it took longer to burn that at 16x then it does when i set them to 8x. And according to the Device Manager, the drive is using DMA. i've had it revert to PIO before and that was a noticeable hit in performance.

    All I can think of is that for some reason my burner does not care for the CMC M01 media.
     
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  7. tmfloria

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    Firmware update may help the problem

     
  8. creaky

    creaky Moderator Staff Member

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    - not too bad, latest version is 6.6.0.18 (6.6.1.4 doesn't count as it's crap and buggy). but your burner is recognised so no need to update Nero unless you want to

    - well that's certainly some obscure burner, well as far as my googling goes anyway. not yet sure if the firmware's current, however it's certainly recognising those *cough* CMC *cough* discs there..

    - DMA needs to be ON; what ppl normally do to get DMA on is to ditch the Nvidia drivers and install the standard Microsoft ones..try following this - http://home.comcast.net/~bbmayo/FAQ.htm

    - 4465MB is burning too close to outer edge of discs. If you use DVD Shrink, set target size to 4300MB in Shrink's preferences thus avoiding outer edge and not sacrificing much space

    - burner's firmware is certainly recognising those 'discs'. i'd avoid TDK and HP with anybody's money

    - wow what's the hurry, you got no DMA set to ON, you're torturing those CMC's, they do deserve it mind. get DMA sorted and try 8x, maybe even 4x
     
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