Dual Core or P4 w/HT ?

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  1. akyllonen

    akyllonen Regular member

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    Looking to upgrade my system. For burning purposes, which is a better route to go....

    Dual Core Pentium D @ 2.8gig or
    P4 with hyperthreading at 3.0 or 3.2 gig?

    All 3 have 1 gig of memory.....

    I do very little multi-tasking but would possibly like to rip with DVD Decrypter while encoding a different DVD w/Shrink.

    What is my best route, or any problems that would arise?
     
  2. borhan9

    borhan9 Active member

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    To the best of my knowledge both will do a great job regardless which way u go. I have a 3yr old system and it does it fine still.

    All you have to do is make sure u get these three areas correct.

    1.RAM (which seems that 1gig is more than emough)

    2.CPU (Again this is more than enough speed to process DVD backing up)

    The only questions I have are for you to make sure that you have enough hard drive space. (minimum 40gigs. I have that but mine is basically a bare bones system that i use for assesnments and DVD backing up.

    The other point I would like to make is make sure you get a system that has a good decent DVD Burner on it. e.g BenQ or Pionner would be the 2 top drives for DVD's. Also it depends if you want to booktype it or not.

    I hope that clears up somethings.
     
  3. IHoe

    IHoe Senior member

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    you want to rip while encoding (both at the same time) ...... get the dual core! I have hyperthreading and it's a great machine..... L8ter has the dual core.....and seems to have better encoding times than I do! Just my 2 cents. And besides that.... I don't do 2 different DVD jobs at the same time! I don't really know if dual core will do that either, just stating that hyperthreading seems to be a little bit slower.
     
  4. davidw001

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    When I run Everest on my system, 3.2P with Hyperthreading, it shows two processors. I always thought this indicated dual core. Since upgrading from 512 MB to 2Gigs of ram my backups have definitely been faster and I haven't been as worried about making sure nothing that isn't necessary is running in the background. No problems yet!
     
  5. akyllonen

    akyllonen Regular member

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    -borhan9

    Hard drive space is no issue...plan on going with either a 160 gig or 250 gig primary drive and adding a 200 gig 2nd drive.

    For a burner I'm planning on still using my Sony DRU-710A that's in my desktop now....hasn't failed me yet!

    Right now I don't multitask when encoding, but would if a dual core system could handle it.
     
  6. Mort81

    Mort81 Senior member

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    I just upgraded from a prescott P4 2.8 ghz 533 fsb non-ht cpu to a northwood P4 3.4 ghz 800 fsb w/ht and although there is a significant improvement, If I was to do it again I would go with an AMD dual core. I would't worry about your sony dvdrw drive. There's nothing wrong with them.
     
  7. IHoe

    IHoe Senior member

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    Nice computer, Mort! it will serve you well!
     
  8. Nephilim

    Nephilim Moderator Staff Member

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    I just built myself a new system with an A64 X2 4200+ and it allows multithreaded encoders like Shrink and Recode to absolutely scream. I've a small utility that shows CPU usage for both cores and when I fire up Shrink they both hit 100% and don't quit till the encode is done.

    The AMD dual cores are stellar performers and very reasonably priced (which goes without saying if I could afford one!).
     
  9. akyllonen

    akyllonen Regular member

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    So I guess my question now is.....Will Shrink utilize both cores on a dual core Pentium4?
     
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    Anyone have a good sight where to buy a screaming fast computer at a great price? I'm sick of my 2.93 gig. computer.
     
  12. Nephilim

    Nephilim Moderator Staff Member

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    akyllonen,

    Shrink should use both cores whether it be an Intel or AMD proc. As long as the OS sees two cores they'll be used.
     
  13. Nephilim

    Nephilim Moderator Staff Member

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    JOHNSTARR

    Build it. You'll get exactly what you want and usually save some pennies that way.
     
  14. LOCOENG

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    @neph

    I bet that doesn't take long either...maybe 2-3 minutes with no compression?
     
  15. ireland

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    just info

    A 4.1 GHz Dual Core at $130?
    Posted by ScuttleMonkey on Wednesday May 10, @06:46PM
    from the power-on-a-budget dept.
    Intel Hardware
    joshmo97 writes "Tom's Hardware has found that the Pentium D 805 runs stable at 4.1 GHz and outperforms Intel and AMD's flagship offerings in many benchmarks. From the article: 'The Pentium D 805 is a budget CPU, but it puts lots of processors from AMD and Intel to shame. Although it is not based on the latest 65 nm core, this CPU remains stable even when operating at amazing 4.1 GHz. The Pentium D 805 ascends to the throne as the new King of overclocking, knocking out the AMD Opteron 144.'"
    http://www.tomshardware.com/2006/05/10/dual_41_ghz_cores/


    quote
    There are still some situations in life that are guaranteed to put a grin on anyone's face, even hard-boiled technical skeptics like us. This particular story borders on being a sensation unmatched in our last eight years of hardware reviews. The news, for those who just can't stand the wait any more, is this: Intel has offered a budget Pentium as part of its processor line-up for a little while now. With a simple modification, however, this CPU can outperform every top-of-the-line processor around.


    The bottom line is that the Athlon FX-60 and the Pentium Extreme Edition 965 have both met their match - there's simply no escaping this conclusion! This is bound to cause lamentation among the elite circle of users who've invested big bucks in their high-end systems, if not outright wailing and rending of garments. The basic stats for this insignificant-seeming budget processor read as follows: Pentium D 805 clocked at 2.66 GHz, equipped with two processor cores both with 64 bit support. At your friendly neighborhood retailer you can pick up this secret weapon for pocket change - right now, for example, it's available at newegg.com for just under $130. We were quite amazed as the first performance figures emerged from our test labs: stable operation was possible at 4.1 GHz, and without even the need for substantial boosts to cooling!
     
  16. ihovia

    ihovia Guest

    blah, blah, blah, 2 is always better than 1 we all know that, that is why we have 2 arms and 2 legs. What ever you go with set up a raid, pick your hard drives wisely, do not just look @ size of drive or cache. Most bottlenecks will happen here. Even if you do have 2 arms and 2 legs does not mean you can hold a pack of gum, chew and walk at the same time.
     
  17. travalon

    travalon Regular member

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    I recently asked my self the same question and had it answered by the price. I ended up with a 3.4 ghz P4 w/HTT and have no probs. I can encode 2 movies at a time in around a half hour depending on the length of the flick.

    I went all out when I got this lap top (Well as out as I could afford)

    I ended up with 120gb hdd (actually 2 60 gb @ 5400 rpm),a 3.4 ghz P4 w/HTT,a 256mb NVIDIA GeForce Go 6800 Ultra video card, a Phillips dvd rom/cdr-rw, an NEC DVD+-RW ND-6650A, and have so far filled the 4 gig capacity with 2.25 gigs of PC4200 ddr sodimm ram (I think I got that right). This thing is pretty fast. I have learned however, that my HDD's are slowing me down. I have a raid 0 setup and it takes a long time to find or write stuff. Also by showing both drives as 1 I believe it slows progress as well.
     
  18. augerpro

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    Go dualcore! HT was a kinda sorta neat feature that only a few programs took advantage of. And in the end you still only have one core doing the work, gimmicks or no gimmicks.

    My AMD opty 165 just backed up Munich (59% compression) in 32 minutes, with deepscan analysis on. And 8 minutes of that was the actual burn process. If you back up alot of movies this can save ALOT of time. Keep in mind though that if you plan to multitask while encoding with shrink you should really run it on only one core. You can do this through the task manager, just click the shrink process and "assign affinity" to either core 0 or 1. Of course it won't encode any faster than asingle core 2.8ghz, but at least you can do other stuff at the same time.

    Also if you're in the US newegg.com has the NEC 3550a burner for $35. Burn quality if very good, just got one to replace my dead Litey.

    Btw I would seriously consider overclocking any dualcore you get. Nothing extreme if it scares you, but they really benefit, and it's free speed!!

    PS travalon how are you running 2 instances of shrink or nero?
     
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  19. travalon

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    1 of each though I have run 4 instaces of shrink at a time. I just keep clicking the scroll. I have also run 2 dvd decrypters and 2 shrinks at the same time. More than 2 instances of any combination of programs and the speed is noticably slower. Have even burned, ripped and recoded at the same time. But now I know better. Just got lucky and everything worked.
     
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  20. t_2am

    t_2am Guest

    wow I backed up munick in 22 minutes with a semprom 1.6, this shows that when it comes to backing up dvds not alot of power is needed. I just had the same decsion to make between the 120$ dual core on newegg and the 160$ with HT, I went with the single, with a little reseach I found it handled most video games better.
     

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