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9. May 2008 @ 16:04 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Well, at least we've found the root of the problem, and memory's a doddle to replace compared to a mobo or CPU...

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and he's still your friend? sorry Rob, don't mean to rub salt in the wound but couldn't resist.

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9. May 2008 @ 16:29 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Ah, that made me re-read the post and I think I see what's happened - sounds like the RAM damaging the memory controller, which would be why a replacement board initially solved it but then it happened again.

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hell i hope gigabyte dont charge me this time if they dont find anything wrong.. now i gotta get with crucial and try to get some good mem.... i think thats another story.. might just go get me some corsair 1066 mem.

yea will's a great guy. does piss me off it happend to him. but now with his new board it is running hot???

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thats just it sam they didnt replace my board the first time they said i had a damaged cpu socket and repaired it

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Did he do the thermal paste right?

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i can only assume he did im not sure. right off hand does anyone know where crucial is(location wise)

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Originally posted by cincyrob:
i can only assume he did im not sure. right off hand does anyone know where crucial is(location wise)
looks like you got a few different options there buddy... :)

link to Crucial contacts list....


Can you believe that RAM is causing the problems?? Doesn't say much for Memtest 86 IMO...

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Crucial Headquarters
3475 E. Commercial Ct.
Meridian, ID 83642
USA


Product Returns
All returns must be accompanied by an RMA number.

Once you have received an RMA number, please include all information and ship to:
3475 E. Commercial Ct.
Meridian, ID 83642
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Originally posted by cincyrob:
well i should have gone with my first instinct when i started haven all my problems with my rig. the memory.....i asked bigwill to run my crucial ballistix 1066 mem in hisa rig... it crashed right on boot.. put his back in and wouldnt fire up.. lucky for him he got his mobo at microcenter and they gave him a new one.... just my luck huh
That actually kinda worries me... I have some Crucial 1066 Tracers but they are in the other puter. It has the Asus Striker so I should be safe I suppose. I still have some doubts with Memtest 86.... hmmmmmmmmm....

well we got more to think about now......

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I've been telling you guys about how the Crucial Ballistix(the gold kind) use different chips and really are horrible now. They Black ones aren't affected and they haven't switched Memory chips for the PC-8500 ones either so, Rob, your memory is probably just a bad pair.

Seriously, bycott the PC-6400 Ballistic mem(not the tracers).

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9. May 2008 @ 18:08 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I seem to recall a naff experience with PC8500 tracers as well, I'd say boycott Ballistix entirely until they sort it out. I hear of almost no issues with Corsair stuff...

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geeensman,
I doubt that the memory was bad to begin with. Today I ran memtest and got no errors at all on my machine! Yesterday all 5 sticks failed. I don't think that the memory got better overnight, although I did put them away in a warm dry place and tucked them in nice! LOL!! I also tested them with both sticks and single with no errors! I don't think the memory controller can damage the memory or burn it out, and failed memory addresses don't repair themselves at stock speeds and voltages, and I'm not about to OC 1066 memory to begin with. I should have realized that when I got hundreds of memory errors with the G.Skill and the computer still ran as long as it was kept under 3.552GHz with the memory at 1065MHz. If all those errors were true, the computer should have crashed left and right. There were so many different errors at so many different addresses, that it should have been impossible for it to even run. I just didn't snap to it at the time! LOL!!

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9. May 2008 @ 18:27 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
i just filled out the form for a rma with crucial. waiting for a response from them.

here is my mem.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148069

boozer your saying these arent in with the bad batch of memory you were talking about?

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well my boards been deliverd at 9:04 am guess i can only cross my fingers now..lol

edit again
thats what is kinda funny with my mem. i ran memtest at least 5 times on them with no errors what so ever. i take them out let will have them adn BAM his noard crashes and wont boot up like mine was doing.???

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cincyrob,
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boozer your saying these arent in with the bad batch of memory you were talking about?

The funny part is these were the memory to have about 6 months ago and the Black Tracers were a problem. Must not be enough good chips to go around so they must keep switching the good chips back and forth! LOL!!

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Well first of all they used chips that don't overclock as well. Now what they are doing is making the RAM one sided and it's not that good. Make sure when you call Crucial up that you want DOUBLE SIDED ram and that's the good stuff.

The bad batch is specifically batch 97432. This is the worst kind there is. The mem will cause BSOD and crashing like crazy but MemTest won't detect any errors every time. Seems like what's happening to you guys. My memory just doesn't OC that well, but I don't have stability problems.

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I know a monumental amount of people who use XMS2 PC6400CAS4 and not one has had any issues with it. If you're after CAS4 memory, go with that, seriously. As for PC8500, Dominators don't seem perfect, but given Crucial's track record they seem preferable. What about OCZ and GeIL?

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DAMN BOOZER why dindt you tell me that before???? thats the damn batch i have.

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Originally posted by cincyrob:
DAMN BOOZER why dindt you tell me that before???? thats the damn batch i have.
Yeh BOOZER!!! lol. Sorry rob that struck me as funny. ;)

Are you guys looking on the RAM or what for this batch #?? I don't want to take my crap apart just to see NOTHING. :P I have some Tracers remember??

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if looking for some good DDR2 800 memory, here ya go. this stuff should OC to 1066mhz fairly easily if you loosen up the timings to 5-5-5-15.

not that I am disapointed with my DDR2 1066 dominators but those above should have better chips.

a person can't hardly go wrong with these either. I'm fairly certain they have micron chips. why weren't they that cheap when I was buying?

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well actually my batch number is 97433 but the symptons you just stated is everything my system was doing.... damn....unless gigabyte finds something wrong im gonna have to pay for a service charge. heaven knows how much that will be.....once i get my RMA from crucial im gonna call them and tell them about the double sided mem. and the batch numbers but im sure they know that.. ihope.

boozer where did you find that info about the bad batches?

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9. May 2008 @ 20:55 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
so is the micron chip what i want then?is it the same chip just different brand names? if so how do you know what you get,can you request it.....

all this time i bad mouthed my mobo and it wasnt the culpret...sorry giga...

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I've been there before too Rob, don't worry about it.

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Rig #1 Asus Rampage Formula Mobo, Intel C2D E3110 Xeon CPU @ 4.0ghz, 2gb Corsair DDR2 1066 Dominator Ram @ 5-5-5-15, TR Ultra 120 Extreme w/ Scythe SFF21F 120mm Fan HSF, HIS Radeon 512mb HD3870 IceQ TurboX GPU, Corsair 620HX P/S, CM Stacker 830 Evo Case, Rig #2 Asus P5W DH Deluxe Mobo, Intel C2D E6600 CPU @ 3.6ghz, 2gb Corsair XMS2 DDR2 800 Ram @ 4-4-4-12-2t, Zalman CNPS9500LED HSF, Sapphire Radeon X850XT PE GPU, Corsair 620HX P/S, Cooler Master Mystique Case, Viewsonic 20.1" Widescreen Digital LCD Monitor, Klipsch 2.1 THX Desktop Speakers, http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=236435 http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=348351

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Originally posted by greensman:
Originally posted by cincyrob:
DAMN BOOZER why dindt you tell me that before???? thats the damn batch i have.
Yeh BOOZER!!! lol. Sorry rob that struck me as funny. ;)

Are you guys looking on the RAM or what for this batch #?? I don't want to take my crap apart just to see NOTHING. :P I have some Tracers remember??

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it is stamped on the side of the mem. you might be able to see it without takeing them out

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Originally posted by Mort81:
if looking for some good DDR2 800 memory, here ya go. this stuff should OC to 1066mhz fairly easily if you loosen up the timings to 5-5-5-15.

not that I am disapointed with my DDR2 1066 dominators but those above should have better chips.

a person can't hardly go wrong with these either. I'm fairly certain they have micron chips. why weren't they that cheap when I was buying?
I did some more research and it all depends on what version of memory you get. no guarantees anymore and the retailers don't publish the version no. the 1066 memory I posted is not micron. micron and elpida are both 2.2v modules and the ones at newegg are 2.1v and most likely PSC. here's where I got my info http://www.houseofhelp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=57334

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9. May 2008 @ 22:45 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
rob thanks for the info on the RAM #'s. I'll check when i can..

Mortimor.... Good info with the RAMGUY... To bad I don't have any Corsair memory to look up. :P

What about Mushkin RAM?? :D

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