That's outrageous. I thought my little pistol was too much. But it was a gift. It costs about $200 nowadays. It fires a pellet at about 700 FPS with a single break to load.

http://www.airgundepot.com/rws-5gmag-air-pistol.html

Originally posted by PacMan777:

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I added a link and some added info in the last post. Nothing on an auto though. I've seen some good compressed air units that use a lever action.

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yer link just shows now it was showing just RWS.

I can get a Gama for 200 tis 1000 or 1200,it dose BBs and pellets is break barrel tho.

I see mostly cocking/break barrel in the link tho,nice stuff BTW ^^

It is outrageous. $900 will get an Encore!

I added a bit more to the last post. It's hard to keep up posting heads up.

Originally posted by PacMan777:

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That's outrageous. I thought my little pistol was too much. But it was a gift. It costs about $200 nowadays. It fires a pellet at about 700 FPS with a single break to load.

http://www.airgundepot.com/rws-5gmag-air-pistol.html

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I have a lil dasiy OC pistol its not bad but only 450 FPS I think,its pretty accurate over 70 feet,a nice lil target gun.

Originally posted by Nephilim:

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It is outrageous. $900 will get an Encore!

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A very good Encore with a nice Zeiss scope.

Thanks Neph! Looks like I'm gonna have to save up for a stock. I like the look of that Dragunov one.

a great day for gun owners. Washington DC gun ban lifted via a court decision

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I agree with Garmoon and Zoso, this may be a short term deal, I think we are indeed in store for 4-8 years of the "left coast lifestyle" politics and sentiments. Just remember, the average liberal can identify a gun 2 out of three times at 15 feet. It will be an interesting period of time to come in the next few years...

Originally posted by blivetNC:

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I agree with Garmoon and Zoso, this may be a short term deal, I think we are indeed in store for 4-8 years of the "left coast lifestyle" politics and sentiments. Just remember, the average liberal can identify a gun 2 out of three times at 15 feet. It will be an interesting period of time to come in the next few years...

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I agree completely with you guys, it is a tremendous victory for gun owners and all Americans (whether they realize it or not) but I to fear that it may be short lived. The problem is that the libs are more willing to put their money where their mouths are. And their mouths, minority or not, are extremely well funded. The NRA is virtually the only proponent we have in D.C whereas the anti-gunners have basically the whole town. I hope that it stands in the long run, but the battle wont end quietly.

Other than the high court affirming that individuals have the right to bear arms, little has changed. The NRA will go after towns like Morton Grove (and others with similar gun bans), but little more will happen. The gun control laws that are on the books will remain there. I suspect that municipalities that don't like citizens owning guns will strictly enforce having the guns registered and requiring permits. I doubt the left will ever learn that when you take guns away from honest citizens the crooks will still have theirs. I like the small town where I live. Other than not disturbing the neighbors at night, I can go out in the yard and do a little target practice about any time I like.

I can't see how the laws that are currently in place will stand once challenged in each offending state. It is clearly unconstitutional, period. They have been for the last 20+ years of which I am dumbfounded at how it lasted this long! How is it that a State, City, Province, District or whatever has the ability to take our rights as Americans away? They don't...that is what the constitution is here to protect. These municipalities have stepped on our necks long enough and by what I have read & discussed it is just a matter of time, no matter what party is in house. That is irrelevant as a House has no right to dismiss certain parts of the constitution they do not agree with!

Remember the ruling is from the Supreme Court and what they said is VERY clear and concise in reference to our liberties. They concluded the right to bare arms is an individual right of Americans, and the right to bare arms shall not be infringed, basically what the 2nd amendment states! Gun bans are now unconstitutional in places like DC, NY, Chicago, San Francisco, States even like CA who have wide spreading gun bans will all change coming soon as their laws directly go against the supreme court ruling.

Most, if not all of the speculated "ideas" of what the 2nd amendment meant has been laid to rest with the 157 page ruling outlined in today's current terms (not the BS they tried to spew of it only applying to muskets!), of which was intended by our forefathers. Finally there may be a time where an imaginary line on a map won't infringe upon our rights set by a States illegal law(s) against US Citizens. Though I have no issue with gun registration, gun licensing, mandatory weapon training and/or application to the Federal Government for a background check not unlike when applying for a Carry Concealment Permitance/Licensure.

Most of the laws that are in place don't ban weapons as did the DC, Chicago, San Francisco, and similar bans. The laws are there to try to insure weapons don't end up in the wrong hands. We know they do, but criminals don't pay much attention to gun laws. Laws are mostly for honest citizens. So, most of the current laws will stand. The laws can control how we acquire and use our weapons, just not ban them. Most places you can own a handgun, but without a permit, you can't carry it outside your home. You're even controled in how you transport guns and ammo. I took the course for concealed carry so I don't have to put up with a lot of the hassles. I just have to be careful of which states don't honor the permit. Most of the states in my part of the country honor it.

There is a book out that's called Travellers Guide To Gun Laws Of The 50 States. It gives you an overview of transporting your firearms in each state in plain english. Even shows the reciprocity for each states conceal permits. It gets updated every year.

Here's a handy website for checking CCW reciprocity.
http://carryconcealed.net/legal/reciprocity.php

I'll check it out as soon as I get home from work. Trying to view a site on a cell phone is rough.

I have to say that it is a very pleasant surprise to be having this discussion on AD. Even when we know that the anti-gun is the minority, very seldom is the opportunity given to share your views with others who feel the same as you outside of your normal surroundings. To find those who share your beliefs in a site dedicated to helping people with computer related problems is a breath of fresh air. Thanks be to Neph for starting the discussion and to all those willing to give their opinion.

J

The book is actually called Traveler's Guide to the Firearm Laws of the Fifty States. It touches on each states ownership, open carry, concealed carry, vehicle carry and transportation. I purchased one 4 years ago, and just ordered the 2008 edition, which came in yesterday.

This is their website: http://www.gunlawguide.com/

good website

here in Indiana we can buy a lifetime carry and concealed permit which is great it runs about 100.00 dollars

I'm not old enough to have a gun(my dad has rifles that I use lol), but I believe that if the right to bear arms is in the constitution then they should not be able to outlaw them.

Indiana is where I grew up before moving to Texas when I was 14. I had started the paperwork for my CCW, but just haven't had the time to finish it and take the classes. Always find something else I need the cash for.