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Alcohol 120 1.4.3.518 conquers Safedisc 2.8.x with 1 sheep burner

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#1
Shoey Suspended due non-functional email address
A 1 sheep burner backups Safedisc 2.8.x I thought one needed a 2 sheep burner to accomplish this? Well I've done some extensive testing and produced countless coasters but tonight, I backed up Safedisc 2.8 with an LG(Lucky Goldstar) GCE 0824b burner. What is a 1 sheep burner? A one sheep burner writes regular bit patterns almost correctly compared to a 2 sheep burner as they write regular bit patterns correctly (EFM encoding\eight to fourteen modulation) To get started I'll post a list of 2 sheep burners (a little outdated) so you'll kinda know where your burner falls into place. If you don't see your burner on the list than chances are your burner is 1 sheep (counting already)....
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Known Safedisc 2.8-2.9 cdrw "killers"
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ARTEC CDRW241040+ -
ASUS CRW-1610A -
ASUS CRW-3212A -
ASUS CRW-4012A -
ASUS CRW-4816A -
ASUS CRW-5224A -
BTC BCE-3212IM -
BTC BCE4824IM 2002 11 21
BTC BCE-5224IM 2002 11 21
BTC CD-RW IDE4816 2002 08 26
BTC CDWRITER IDE4824 2002 11 21
BTC CDWRITER IDE5224 2002 11 21
CyberDrive CW099D 52x24x52 2002 12 02
LG GCE-8160B -
LG GCE-8320B -
LG GCE-8400B 2002 06 26
LITEON LTR-16102B -
LITEON LTR-24102B -
LITEON LTR-24103S -
LITEON LTR-32123S -
LITEON LTR-40125S -
LITEON LTR-48125W -
LITEON LTR-52246S -
MEMOREX 16MAXX 1040JB 2002 05 13
MEMOREX 24MAXX 1040 2002 05 13
MEMOREX 32MAXX 1240AJ 2002 05 22
MEMOREX 32MAXX 1240AK 2002 05 13
MEMOREX 40 MAXX 1248AJ 2002 05 22
MEMOREX 48MAXX 1248AJ 2002 05 23
MEMOREX 52MAXX
POLAROID BurnMAX40 2002 11 25
POLAROID BurnMAX48 2002 11 25
POLAROID BurnMAX52 2003 01 31
SONY CRX175A1 -
SONY CRX185E1 2002 05 22
SONY CRX185E3 -
SONY CRX195E1 2002 05 22
SONY CRX220E2 2002 11 21
TEAC CD-W548E 2002 12 06
TOSHIBA SD-R1202 -
TOSHIBA SD-R1312 2003 02 18
TOSHIBA SD-R2312 2002 07 25
TOSHIBA SD-R2412 2002 11 27
TOSHIBA SD-R5002 2002 11 14
TRAXDATA CDRW-2440MB -
TRAXDATA CDRW-2440SD -
TRAXDATA CDRW-4824E 2002 11 21
TRAXDATA CDRW-5224E 2003 01 31
WAITEC FRISBYII 2002 09 26
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First be sure that autorun is enabled on your o\s or your backup will not play! If you disabled autorun and don't know how to enable, a simple solution is to install CloneCD and go to tools>settings>auto insert notification>check enable auto insert notification.
CloneCD:http://elby.ch/english/products/clone_cd/index.html
Settings I used with Alcohol 120 1.4.3.518:
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Insert the Safedisc 2.8-2.9 protected cd in your burner and go to image making wizard. Down near the bottom where it says datatype choose Safedisc 2 (fast skip error blocks& skip read error should be checked and click next. Make a new folder on your hd and save the image of your Safedisc 2.8-2.9 protected cd and click start. You'll see during the extraction process read errors so ignore as this is common reading Safedisc 2.8-2.9 as bad sectors are located in the first 10, 000 sectors of the protected cd. After you've finished reading the image insert a blank cd-r in your burner and click image burning wizard. Near the top locate the image you just read to your hd and click next. Down near the bottom where it says datatype, choose Safedisc 2 and burn RAO DAO at max. After you've burned the image now open Alcohol 120 go to options>general>emulation and check "ignore media type" . Go to extra emulation and check Bad Sector& Laserlock emulation.
Minimize Alcohol 120 to system tray (startup) and your backup should play in your burner, not your dvd\cd-rom . If Alcohol 120 fails to write when you choose datatype (Safedisc 2), then change to custom and try again as I had to . Alcohol 120 is best for backing up Safedisc (for now as Macrovision continually updating Safedisc versions). Cheers "1 sheep burner owners" :)
Alcohol 120:http://www.alcohol-software.com/
Note that most EA (Electronic Arts) pc sport games are "hotwired" to run only from their installation drive. Simply this means whichever drive you choose to read the image then you would play the backup in that same drive. Note that you need the aid of emulation to play your backup! (ignore media type\hide cd-r)
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I'm laughing at Macrovision all the way to the bank simply because this company spends millions of dollars on this cd protection and with my test results, any burner should be able to make a legal backup of the software they purchased (Safedisc). So get your copy of Alcohol 120 today and send them an email thanking them for a great victory!

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This message has been edited since its posting. Latest edit was made on 19 Aug 2003 @ 4:25

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#2
Hi shoey

Well dude what can i say but an excellant thread and achievement to date! bring on the protections or should i say what protections...

also the next game i get with safedisc i will use your guide on my 1 sheep plextor 12/10/32a and see how it goes!!!

dam and i spent all that money on a litty 2 sheep burner, all of £39.99 LOL

thx all - dont you just love this site!

EDIT:

AUTORUN can also be tuned via MY COMPUTER right click all cd drives in turn and set it to do what you want for "WINDOWS XP" also to note is what shoey talks of! and cd-rw programs that has a setting in it to turn off autorun like CloneCD !!!

Thx...
This message has been edited since its posting. Latest edit was made on 01 Jun 2003 @ 11:51

Nothing here to see, move along folks.

#3
Shoey Suspended due non-functional email address
Well the advantage owning a 2 sheep burner, your backups will most likely play in dvd\cd-roms as compared to 1 sheep burners, backup needs emulation of some sort. I'm persuaded when backing up Safedisc 2.8-2.9 to read the image with your burner, rather than your dvd\cd-rom. I did another test this morning and read the image with the LG GCE 0824b and the backup played in my burner (LG) without any emulation (ignore media type, bad sector). All I needed was Alcohol 120 running in system tray, lol.

Shoey :)

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#4
I have a Sony CDX1611, it makes perferct backups of safedisc 2.8-2.9 using Alcohol120, this writer wasn't mentioned in your list as a '2 sheep burner' but works fine with autorun disabled
How do I tell if this model is a 1 or 2 sheep burner?
And one last thing, what's all this sheep stuff mean, do you know of a URL that would enlighten me on this topic? I'm sure there are lots of people out there that feel this way.
Thanks a heap,
-Chris
cjconlan@optushome.com.au
#5
Shoey Suspended due non-functional email address
"2 sheep burners": writes regular bit patterns correctly (EFM encoding)
"1 sheep burners": writes regular bit patterns almost correctly.
Go to the following link and then supported writers and locate your Sony and look at EFM encoding. If you see a "2 sheep score rating"= great burner for backing up Safedisc 2.8-2.9 without the aid of using emulation (most cases).
http://elby.ch/english/products/clone_cd/index.html
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I have a Sony CDX1611, it makes perferct backups of safedisc 2.8-2.9 using Alcohol120, this writer wasn't mentioned in your list as a '2 sheep burner' but works fine with autorun disabled
Did the backups play in your dvd\cd-rom\dvd-burner?
Uninstall Alcohol 120% and make sure backups play in both drives(if applicable). If they do and you need NO emulation(ATIP hide cd-r tool) then report your Sony to team Elby(CloneCD), Alcohol 120%, Blindwrite Suite) as a "2 sheep burner".

Shoey :)


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#6
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Ive noticed some of the burners have a - next to them and some dont.
do these mean anything?
#7
I dont think so, maybe though :P

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