I was having the same problems as quite a few other people, and just got a replacement drive for my unit. Now, if this is my firmware, how to I updated when I get the file. I got the file, just now what, if that is the problemo? Windows XP 5.1 IA32 WinAspi: - ahead WinASPI: File 'C:\Program Files\Ahead\Nero\Wnaspi32.dll': Ver=2.0.1.74, size=164112 bytes, created 10/26/2004 6:35:34 PM Nero API version: 6.6.0.18 Using interface version: 6.3.1.4 Installed in: C:\Program Files\Ahead\Nero\ Application: ahead\Nero - Burning Rom Internal Version: 6, 6, 0, 18e Recorder: <LITE-ON DVDRW SOHW-1633S>Version: BGS4 - HA 4 TA 1 - 6.6.0.18 Adapter driver: <atapi> HA 4 Drive buffer : 2048kB Bus Type : default (0) -> ATAPI, detected: ATAPI === Scsi-Device-Map === CdRomPeripheral : TOSHIBA DVD-ROM SD-M1612 atapi Port 4 ID 0 DMA: On CdRomPeripheral : LITE-ON DVDRW SOHW-1633S atapi Port 4 ID 1 DMA: On DiskPeripheral : ST3200826A atapi Port 5 ID 0 DMA: On DiskPeripheral : ST3300831A atapi Port 5 ID 1 DMA: On === CDRom-Device-Map === TOSHIBA DVD-ROM SD-M1612 F: CDRom0 LITE-ON DVDRW SOHW-1633S E: CDRom1 ======================= AutoRun : 1 Excluded drive IDs: WriteBufferSize: 83886080 (0) Byte ShowDrvBufStat : 0 BUFE : 0 Physical memory : 894MB (915952kB) Free physical memory: 418MB (428520kB) Memory in use : 53 % Uncached PFiles: 0x0 Use Inquiry : 1 Global Bus Type: default (0) Check supported media : Disabled (0) 14.7.2006 NeroAPI 2:29:28 PM #1 Phase 112 File APIProgress.cpp, Line 276 DVD-Video files reallocation started 2:29:28 PM #2 Phase 114 File APIProgress.cpp, Line 276 DVD-Video files reallocation completed (no file modified) 2:29:28 PM #3 Phase 111 File APIProgress.cpp, Line 276 DVD-Video files sorted 2:29:28 PM #4 Text 0 File Reader.cpp, Line 127 Reader running 2:29:28 PM #5 Text 0 File AudioCompilationImpl.cpp, Line 842 DRM: StartDrmRecording(RealRec:1, ImageRec:0, Copies:1) DRM: Beginning burn process. 2:29:28 PM #6 Text 0 File Writer.cpp, Line 122 Writer LITE-ON DVDRW SOHW-1633S running 2:29:28 PM #7 ISO9660GEN -11 File geniso.cpp, Line 3309 First writeable address = 0 (0x00000000) 2:29:28 PM #8 ISO9660GEN -11 File geniso.cpp, Line 3309 First writeable address = 0 (0x00000000) 2:29:28 PM #9 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 3233 Turn on Disc-At-Once, using DVD media 2:30:04 PM #10 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 270 Last possible write address on media: 2298495 (510:46.45, 4489MB) Last address to be written: 2060927 (457:59.02, 4025MB) 2:30:04 PM #11 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 282 Write in overburning mode: NO 2:30:04 PM #12 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 2483 Recorder: LITE-ON DVDRW SOHW-1633S, Media type: DVD-R Disc Manufacturer: CMC MA - G. AM3 Disc Application Code: 64, Disc Physical Code: 193 2:30:04 PM #13 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 448 >>> Protocol of DlgWaitCD activities: <<< ========================================= Insert empty disc to write to. (Medium in drive: unknown. Medium required by compilation: DVD+R/RW, DVD-R/RW, DVD+R DL.) 2:30:04 PM #14 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 838 Setup items (after recorder preparation) 0: TRM_DATA_MODE1 () 2 indices, index0 (150) not provided original disc pos #0 + 2060928 (2060928) = #2060928/457:59.3 relocatable, disc pos for caching/writing not required/ required, no patch infos -> TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048, config 0, wanted index0 0 blocks, length 2060928 blocks [LITE-ON DVDRW SOHW-1633S] -------------------------------------------------------------- 2:30:04 PM #15 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 1051 Prepare recorder [LITE-ON DVDRW SOHW-1633S] for write in CUE-sheet-DAO DAO infos: ========== MCN: "" TOCType: 0x00; Session Closed, disc fixated Tracks 1 to 1: 1: TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048/0x00, FilePos 0 0 4220780544, ISRC "" DAO layout: =========== __Start_|____Track_|_Idx_|_CtrlAdr_|_RecDep__________ 0 | lead-in | 0 | 0x41 | 0x00 0 | 1 | 0 | 0x41 | 0x00 0 | 1 | 1 | 0x41 | 0x00 2060928 | lead-out | 1 | 0x41 | 0x00 2:30:04 PM #16 Phase 24 File APIProgress.cpp, Line 276 Caching of files started 2:30:04 PM #17 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 4122 Cache writing successful. 2:30:04 PM #18 Phase 25 File APIProgress.cpp, Line 276 Caching of files completed 2:30:04 PM #19 Phase 36 File APIProgress.cpp, Line 276 Burn process started at 4x (5,540 KB/s) 2:30:04 PM #20 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 2661 Verifying disc position of item 0 (relocatable, disc pos, no patch infos, orig at #0): write at #0 2:30:04 PM #21 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 2571 Recording mode: Sequential Recording Mode 2:30:04 PM #22 Text 0 File Mmc.cpp, Line 21774 Set BUFE: Buffer underrun protection -> ON , SMART-BURN : ON 2:30:04 PM #23 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 2726 Start write address at LBA 0 DVD high compatibility mode: Yes 2:30:04 PM #24 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 8892 ---- DVD Structure: Physical Format Information (00h) ---- Layer: 0, Address: 0 (0 h), AGID: 0; Length: 2050 Book Type: DVD-R (2), Part Version: 2.0x (5), Extended Part Version: 2.1 (33) Disc Size: 120 mm, Maximum Rate: <not specified> (F h) Number of Layers: 1, Track Path: Parallel Track Path (PTP), Layer Type: recordable Linear Density: 0,267 um/bit, Track Density: 0,74 um/track Starting Physical Sector Number of Data Area: 30000 h (DVD-ROM, DVD-R/-RW, DVD+R/+RW) End Physical Sector Number of Data Area: 0 h End Sector Number in Layer 0: 0 h (LBN: FFFD0000 h, 4193920 MB) Data in Burst Cutting Area (BCA) does not exist Start sector number of the current Border-Out: 0 h Start sector number of the next Border-In: 0 h Media Specific [16..63]: 00 60 00 10 20 30 40 50 - 00 00 00 21 00 00 00 00 .`...0@P...!.... 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................ 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................ 2:30:06 PM #25 SCSI -1046 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1436 SCSI Exec, HA 4, TA 1, LUN 0, buffer 0x00CB0000 Status: 0x04 (0x01, SCSI_ERR) HA-Status 0x00 (0x00, OK) TA-Status 0x02 (0x01, SCSI_TASTATUS_CHKCOND) Sense Key: 0x02 (KEY_NOT_READY) Sense Code: 0x30 Sense Qual: 0x05 CDB Data: 0x2A 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x20 0x00 0x00 0x00 Sense Data: 0x70 0x00 0x02 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x0A 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x30 0x05 2:30:06 PM #26 CDR -1046 File Writer.cpp, Line 311 Illegal disc 2:30:06 PM #27 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 228 all writers idle, stopping conversion 2:30:06 PM #28 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 222 conversion idle, stopping reader 2:30:06 PM #29 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 2969 EndDAO: Last written address was -1 2:30:06 PM #30 Phase 38 File APIProgress.cpp, Line 276 Burn process failed at 4x (5,540 KB/s) 2:30:06 PM #31 Text 0 File AudioCompilationImpl.cpp, Line 867 DRM: DRM burn session terminated. 2:30:06 PM #32 Text 0 File AudioCompilationImpl.cpp, Line 896 DRM: Closing entire DRM handling. Bye. Existing drivers: File 'Drivers\ADPU160M.SYS': Ver=v3.60a (Lab01_N(johnstra).010529-2218), size=101888 bytes, created 8/17/2001 11:07:32 PM File 'Drivers\CDRALW2K.SYS': Ver=7.1.0.188 , size=24832 bytes, created 11/10/2004 7:30:18 PM File 'Drivers\PXHELP20.SYS': Ver=2.03.32a, size=20640 bytes, created 11/17/2005 11:19:28 AM (Prassi/Veritas driver for win 2K) Registry Keys: HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\WinLogon\AllocateCDROMs : 0 (Security Option)
Latest firmware is BSOY, update from here http://www.liteonit.com.tw/ODD/WebFW/SOHW-1633S/DR16BS0Y.zip These are horrible discs, try Verbatim or Sony (made in japan) You have Roxio installed, it clashes with Nero, to remove, run this zapper http://www.softpedia.com/get/Tweak/Uninstallers/Roxio-Zap.shtml
That link isn't active anymore? I used the Roxio one to eliminate any DVD software that would be on the system via another addon program. I don't remember having Roxio ever, but used it anyway. Still no dice, and here is my recent error message... Windows XP 5.1 IA32 WinAspi: - ahead WinASPI: File 'C:\Program Files\Ahead\Nero\Wnaspi32.dll': Ver=2.0.1.74, size=164112 bytes, created 10/26/2004 6:35:34 PM Nero API version: 6.6.0.18 Using interface version: 6.3.1.4 Installed in: C:\Program Files\Ahead\Nero\ Application: ahead\Nero - Burning Rom Internal Version: 6, 6, 0, 18e Recorder: <LITE-ON DVDRW SOHW-1633S>Version: BGS4 - HA 4 TA 1 - 6.6.0.18 Adapter driver: <atapi> HA 4 Drive buffer : 2048kB Bus Type : default (0) -> ATAPI, detected: ATAPI === Scsi-Device-Map === CdRomPeripheral : TOSHIBA DVD-ROM SD-M1612 atapi Port 4 ID 0 DMA: On CdRomPeripheral : LITE-ON DVDRW SOHW-1633S atapi Port 4 ID 1 DMA: On DiskPeripheral : ST3200826A atapi Port 5 ID 0 DMA: On DiskPeripheral : ST3300831A atapi Port 5 ID 1 DMA: On === CDRom-Device-Map === TOSHIBA DVD-ROM SD-M1612 F: CDRom0 LITE-ON DVDRW SOHW-1633S E: CDRom1 ======================= AutoRun : 1 Excluded drive IDs: WriteBufferSize: 83886080 (0) Byte ShowDrvBufStat : 0 BUFE : 0 Physical memory : 894MB (915952kB) Free physical memory: 436MB (446560kB) Memory in use : 51 % Uncached PFiles: 0x0 Use Inquiry : 1 Global Bus Type: default (0) Check supported media : Disabled (0) 17.7.2006 NeroAPI 6:38:07 PM #1 Phase 112 File APIProgress.cpp, Line 276 DVD-Video files reallocation started 6:38:07 PM #2 Phase 114 File APIProgress.cpp, Line 276 DVD-Video files reallocation completed (no file modified) 6:38:07 PM #3 Phase 111 File APIProgress.cpp, Line 276 DVD-Video files sorted 6:38:08 PM #4 Text 0 File Reader.cpp, Line 127 Reader running 6:38:08 PM #5 Text 0 File AudioCompilationImpl.cpp, Line 842 DRM: StartDrmRecording(RealRec:1, ImageRec:0, Copies:1) DRM: Beginning burn process. 6:38:08 PM #6 Text 0 File Writer.cpp, Line 122 Writer LITE-ON DVDRW SOHW-1633S running 6:38:08 PM #7 ISO9660GEN -11 File geniso.cpp, Line 3309 First writeable address = 0 (0x00000000) 6:38:08 PM #8 ISO9660GEN -11 File geniso.cpp, Line 3309 First writeable address = 0 (0x00000000) 6:38:08 PM #9 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 3233 Turn on Disc-At-Once, using DVD media 6:38:08 PM #10 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 270 Last possible write address on media: 2298495 (510:46.45, 4489MB) Last address to be written: 2200719 (489:02.69, 4298MB) 6:38:08 PM #11 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 282 Write in overburning mode: NO 6:38:08 PM #12 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 2483 Recorder: LITE-ON DVDRW SOHW-1633S, Media type: DVD-R Disc Manufacturer: CMC MA - G. AM3 Disc Application Code: 64, Disc Physical Code: 193 6:38:08 PM #13 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 448 >>> Protocol of DlgWaitCD activities: <<< ========================================= 6:38:08 PM #14 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 838 Setup items (after recorder preparation) 0: TRM_DATA_MODE1 () 2 indices, index0 (150) not provided original disc pos #0 + 2200720 (2200720) = #2200720/489:2.70 relocatable, disc pos for caching/writing not required/ required, no patch infos -> TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048, config 0, wanted index0 0 blocks, length 2200720 blocks [LITE-ON DVDRW SOHW-1633S] -------------------------------------------------------------- 6:38:08 PM #15 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 1051 Prepare recorder [LITE-ON DVDRW SOHW-1633S] for write in CUE-sheet-DAO DAO infos: ========== MCN: "" TOCType: 0x00; Session Closed, disc fixated Tracks 1 to 1: 1: TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048/0x00, FilePos 0 0 4507074560, ISRC "" DAO layout: =========== __Start_|____Track_|_Idx_|_CtrlAdr_|_RecDep__________ 0 | lead-in | 0 | 0x41 | 0x00 0 | 1 | 0 | 0x41 | 0x00 0 | 1 | 1 | 0x41 | 0x00 2200720 | lead-out | 1 | 0x41 | 0x00 6:38:08 PM #16 Phase 24 File APIProgress.cpp, Line 276 Caching of files started 6:38:08 PM #17 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 4122 Cache writing successful. 6:38:08 PM #18 Phase 25 File APIProgress.cpp, Line 276 Caching of files completed 6:38:08 PM #19 Phase 36 File APIProgress.cpp, Line 276 Burn process started at 4x (5,540 KB/s) 6:38:08 PM #20 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 2661 Verifying disc position of item 0 (relocatable, disc pos, no patch infos, orig at #0): write at #0 6:38:08 PM #21 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 2571 Recording mode: Sequential Recording Mode 6:38:08 PM #22 Text 0 File Mmc.cpp, Line 21774 Set BUFE: Buffer underrun protection -> ON , SMART-BURN : ON 6:38:08 PM #23 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 2726 Start write address at LBA 0 DVD high compatibility mode: Yes 6:38:08 PM #24 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 8892 ---- DVD Structure: Physical Format Information (00h) ---- Layer: 0, Address: 0 (0 h), AGID: 0; Length: 2050 Book Type: DVD-R (2), Part Version: 2.0x (5), Extended Part Version: 2.1 (33) Disc Size: 120 mm, Maximum Rate: <not specified> (F h) Number of Layers: 1, Track Path: Parallel Track Path (PTP), Layer Type: recordable Linear Density: 0,267 um/bit, Track Density: 0,74 um/track Starting Physical Sector Number of Data Area: 30000 h (DVD-ROM, DVD-R/-RW, DVD+R/+RW) End Physical Sector Number of Data Area: 0 h End Sector Number in Layer 0: 0 h (LBN: FFFD0000 h, 4193920 MB) Data in Burst Cutting Area (BCA) does not exist Start sector number of the current Border-Out: 0 h Start sector number of the next Border-In: 0 h Media Specific [16..63]: 00 60 00 10 20 30 40 50 - 00 00 00 21 00 00 00 00 .`...0@P...!.... 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................ 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................ 6:38:11 PM #25 SCSI -1046 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1436 SCSI Exec, HA 4, TA 1, LUN 0, buffer 0x00CB0000 Status: 0x04 (0x01, SCSI_ERR) HA-Status 0x00 (0x00, OK) TA-Status 0x02 (0x01, SCSI_TASTATUS_CHKCOND) Sense Key: 0x02 (KEY_NOT_READY) Sense Code: 0x30 Sense Qual: 0x05 CDB Data: 0x2A 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x20 0x00 0x00 0x00 Sense Data: 0x70 0x00 0x02 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x0A 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x30 0x05 6:38:11 PM #26 CDR -1046 File Writer.cpp, Line 311 Illegal disc 6:38:11 PM #27 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 228 all writers idle, stopping conversion 6:38:11 PM #28 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 222 conversion idle, stopping reader 6:38:11 PM #29 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 2969 EndDAO: Last written address was -1 6:38:11 PM #30 Phase 38 File APIProgress.cpp, Line 276 Burn process failed at 4x (5,540 KB/s) 6:38:11 PM #31 Text 0 File AudioCompilationImpl.cpp, Line 867 DRM: DRM burn session terminated. 6:38:11 PM #32 Text 0 File AudioCompilationImpl.cpp, Line 896 DRM: Closing entire DRM handling. Bye. Existing drivers: File 'Drivers\ADPU160M.SYS': Ver=v3.60a (Lab01_N(johnstra).010529-2218), size=101888 bytes, created 8/17/2001 11:07:32 PM File 'Drivers\PXHELP20.SYS': Ver=2.03.32a, size=20640 bytes, created 11/17/2005 11:19:28 AM (Prassi/Veritas driver for win 2K) Registry Keys: HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\WinLogon\AllocateCDROMs : 0 (Security Option)
http://r00.liteonit.com.tw/ODD/Engl... rw.asp?Flag=1&Item=DR16BS0Y&Model=SHOW-1633S heres a better link for ur firmware. i think it shud start download automatically, but if not just scroll down to the 1 for ur drive: SOHW-1633S
I ran it and then it gives me this message, which makes no sense? No matched drives detected. This utlity is for only the lite-on DVDRW SOHW-1633S Detected Drives: 4-0-1-0 E:lite-on DVDRW SOHW-1633S BGS4
uhhh im not sure about that :/ also you are still using the same disc type try to find better quality discs such as Binkie suggested. This could actually be causing your problem
Hi JSDTX Did you buy this drive or is it an oem drive from the PC? The firmware version looks like an oem version. @Xevlys That was Gwen on the CMC But we all agree on that - better to use Verbs or made in Japan Sony or Fuji.
Multi-post of this this thread, which I requested be closed and this one kept open. http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/366005
Where is the best/most cost effective site to buy these discs from? I am seeing this post on Amazon, which isn't bad. So far I have used HP, TDK, and some cheesy Fry's brand The last GQ brand one was for Burns that were give aways to others, or just data.
I started another post regarding questions and requesting help from others to post where they get their best Media Bargains online. Sorry about that faux paus on my part regarding the multipost, just someone responding to my query told me to repost this in the Nero issues page. So here I am, still have not resolved this problem. It is an OEM replacement from Emachines. The second, for the first ate it due to a bad power supply. The original one was a sohw1635s and the replacement is a 1633s lite-on. Everything was working, then one day it would burn 90% of a disc, then only 80, then 70, till it failed too often to merit trying any longer. After about a week it worked at full capacity, but started again. It seemed more like a mechanical failure. Just with the new drive, I get failures from the get go. Any suggestions, for I have reloaded all the drivers for the unit and the ide controller in safe mode. Still Nada, but will try some Verbatim media in the morning when I venture out. Thanks
well sonys u can get almost anywhere in stores like BestBuy, Frys, Office Depot etc., but they r usually the made in Taiwan ones. i havent had problems with those but the made in Japan are better. The others like verbatim and Maxell you can get online. I dont buy discs online so i dont know any good sites tho :/
Ok that's why the Litey firmware isn't working. You'd have to check w/ e-machines and see if they have a newer one. Or you could cross flash to a LiteOn firmware but that will void any warranty. Try the verbs and see how it goes. You can also buy genuine Taiyo Yuden online here: http://supermediastore.com editted to add- try new media and see how that goes - but you've had 3 drives go so far & a bad power supply? Something else may be up. You might want to pick up a new ide cable too - they're pretty cheap.
I replaced the IDE cable. I had burned over 300 or more DVDs on that last drive before it started to fail. So is that normal? I also went to that site you listed and bought a 200pk of 8x media, since that was what everyone suggested. Should I upgrade this burner to a lightscribe? What is the optimal setup that I should have?
No that's not normal - I have 2 drive's that each are over 1000 burns and one of them is an older LiteOn. Not all drives are created equal though. Still newer good ones 300 should be a cake walk. How old is this pc and what has been changed/replaced on it? Trying to figure out if something else is going on here too. Another drive might not correct this. The ones you just ordered from sms I mainly use w/o a problem. Been using them for 2 years at least. Another thing to try is switching the drives. Make the LiteOn master (set jumper pin to master also). Leave the Toshiba off. Try burning. Works then add the Toshiba as slave (set jumper pins to slave)
Well this t6522 was bought during Thanksgiving of 2002. The power supply went bad, and I replaced the first drive thinking that was the problemo. Who knows, maybe this second time it was the 100pk spindle of Memorex media, but I burned about 40 or so discs of that before I started to have issues? So the first original drive was a power supply issue, this replacement one could have been the media. Just this older model 1633s is not even recognizing this HP or Memroex media I have, or the TDK. I will just buy some Verbatim locally in the morning and test it out, who knows? The jumper was set to slave when I got this unit that only had one optical drive in it. I added the toshiba, and the only way it would recognize it was on cable select.
I have a 1633S and have had it for 2 years with no problem, the fw in mine is the LIte-on BSOY, your is definitely a OEM version. Here are a couple of threads which discuss emachines computers and this drive with the fw you have. You can crossflash the drive which may get it to work, but it is always a risk. http://club.cdfreaks.com/showthread.php?t=163976 http://club.cdfreaks.com/showthread.php?t=183521 http://www.cdr-zone.com/forum/about3948.html http://forum.digital-digest.com/archive/index.php/t-65586.html
@JSDTX Try the verbs and see how that goes. Cable select uses a special cable - not an ide cable. May or may not be part of your problem. The Memorex you used early - that's a typical burn problem with them (my experience at least). Start out okay then go down hill You can always try the crossflash as arniebear linked to - again run a risk. May be worth a shot if the drive isn't working and no longer under warranty.
You can use an IDE cable for CSEL as long as it is an 80 conductor one, and not a 40. http://www.pcguide.com/ref/hdd/if/ide/confCS-c.html My two Dells run on CSEL, because that is what Dell wants for whatever reason, and have the 80 conductor IDE cable on the primary for both my Lite-on DVD Rom and my Plextor burner.
@arniebear Txs for the link (learn something new everday!)- you can tell which way this author believes the industry should go. So if using csel on an 80 ide should both drives be set to csel or would it not even matter? (I might have missed that in the article).