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Kazaa pays 100 million and goes legit
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article published on 27 July, 2006
File sharing giant, Kazaa recently agreed to pay the sum of $100 million for damages to the music industry, to avoid further legal actions that have plagued Kazaa for some time now. This follows in conjunction with a report released saying that some 20 billion music tracks had been downloaded illegally through their service in just the last year.
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27. July 2006 @ 06:53 |
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WOW... that is huge news. i dont think anyone uses Kazaa anymore but they were the biggest p2p service after napster went legit. this is a dark day in the p2p world
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KhmerKing
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27. July 2006 @ 07:28 |
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If sooo many things with free download are illegal, is there any that IS legal? Is Limewire and Bittorrent LEGAL?
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27. July 2006 @ 07:55 |
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no they're not but they're good at dogding the courts.
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little155
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27. July 2006 @ 08:02 |
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I wonder how much the artists are getting from this $100,000,000?
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mJoshua83
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27. July 2006 @ 08:39 |
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I doubt that the artists will see a dime.
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27. July 2006 @ 08:41 |
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This reminds of those times when the 'big names' in antipiracy make an announcement that they've seized xxxx's servers;;;; yet what they don't understand is that 5 more of them are created when one is taken down...........they just don't realize that piracy will always exist; whether it be downloads through bittorrent or as simple as recording your favorite song off the radio......people will always find an alternative to legitimately purchasing music/movie/the like......
"If you can hear or see it, you can copy it" so the saying goes;;
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domie
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27. July 2006 @ 09:24 |
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this report by davedough is incorrect, this was an out of court settlement to stop two court actions in australia and california and prevent even bigger damages being awarded against them.
he obviously hasn't read the bbc report closely enough.
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GrayArea
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27. July 2006 @ 10:11 |
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KhmerKing
Knives are not illegal. Cutting bread with a knife is not illegal. STABBING someone with a knife IS illegal.
P2P apps are not in and of themselves illegal. Filesharing as an act is not illegal. Copyright infringment is technically illegal. BTW, in the US no one has been sued for downloading copyright song files. They have gotten in trouble for making them available to upload. AKA your "shared" folder.
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27. July 2006 @ 10:11 |
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I think this is stupid, yet funny. The reason it is stupid:
20 billion tracks downloaded in ONE year? Sounds like BS to me. Anyone who used KaZaA in the past (I believe it was about 3 years ago, correct me if I am wrong) should know the RIAA setup a program that made it nearly impossible to get a good song from KaZaA. It made it so there was thousands of copies of a song but when you downloaded it all it was was white noise (kind of like the sound of a modem dialing up, really annoying and really loud.)
As with the 100 million bucks, the Artists WON'T see a dime. You know this to be true because its how these big names work. They simply say "It will all go to help our "Anti-Piracy" efforts". When in reality the CEO and other high ranking b*****d's will get most of it so they can continue to drive their Lambo's and Porsche's and pay, in cash, off there houses etc.
I wish I could talk to a few artists themselves that are signed by the IFPI, to prove that they really didn't, and never will, see a PENNY of this 100 million.
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27. July 2006 @ 10:23 |
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this report by davedough is incorrect, this was an out of court settlement to stop two court actions in australia and california and prevent even bigger damages being awarded against them.
he obviously hasn't read the bbc report closely enough.
A minor oversight in which I stated it was the result of a loss of a lawsuit, instead of preventing further legal action. The report is not incorrect, however I appreciate you pointing out the misuse of words in my article. It has been edited as per your eloquent request.
For the record also, had the report been read close enough by you as well, the legal actions from Australia happened last year in which Kazaa was asked to alter it's code.
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27. July 2006 @ 10:56 |
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It's not that LimeWire and BitTorrent are illegal (unless legislation has been passed that I am not aware of), there are legitimate uses for such software. There are, however, illegal uses of such software. For example, I use bittorrent to distribute freeware that I have written. This keeps me from having to pay servers to host my software. A perfectly legit use of the Bittorrent client. Unfortunately, most p2p is being used for less than legit purposes. For example, in my state, it isn't illegal to own a gun, knife, or car, but any of the three could be used to commit any number of illegal activities. In the end, it is the users, not the recording industry, that will seal the fate of p2p. Sorry for the soapbox ;-)
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27. July 2006 @ 11:16 |
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but when you downloaded it all it was was white noise
that wasn't the RIAA it was a company the RIAA hired, it worked by connecting to your computer and acting like a peer and when it uploaded the song to you it distorts it, well if you have peer guardian it blocked it out therefore downloading the song would come out perfectly, also kazaa had 3 million users daily so think about it 3 million users a day, downloading 1 thing a day, it all adds up, even tho some people download a bunch of tracks at once i mean come on who goes on Kazaa and says hey, i want just 1 song and then im off. i never really got into all that because i had dial up until just last year.
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27. July 2006 @ 12:27 |
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haha. Now we must find a new p2p gian to look up too as being worthless but popular, well it won't take long for the RIAA to higher a company to mess up another app. XD.
~Dude845 (wow i posted on these forums XD).
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27. July 2006 @ 12:58 |
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There's still Limewire and it seems to work well. There will always be a next best. Burn on!
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27. July 2006 @ 13:08 |
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Well that will defently give good pay days for the layers.
But I feel that it was going to happen like that anyway.
And what is this limewire talk go with frostwire.
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27. July 2006 @ 15:31 |
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Yea Limewire's going down soon too, better switch to Frostwire
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27. July 2006 @ 16:00 |
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Who's gives a sh*t about kazaa anymore anyways.........Use Limewirepro instead punks.....
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27. July 2006 @ 17:25 |
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P2P apps are dead... move on.... Bit Torrent is the way to go. Only kids and noobs use P2P apps...
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27. July 2006 @ 17:57 |
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P2P apps are dead... move on.... Bit Torrent is the way to go. Only kids and noobs use P2P apps...
P2P is great for finding single songs if you use the right program so no it's not just for kids or noobs. bittorent is good for movies games full cd's or any larger files.
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27. July 2006 @ 19:14 |
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P2P is great for finding single songs if you use the right program so no it's not just for kids or noobs. bittorent is good for movies games full cd's or any larger files.
Agreed!
I'm happy about this. Kazaa wasn't a good P2P program anyway. It was full of adware and a trouble on the system. It offered no more than pure junk.
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27. July 2006 @ 19:32 |
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I can't disagree with agaddict8 that lime pro is the way to go, i've used it for the past year and it's filtering works well against false files etc ,the only pain is the odd song sometimes have the wrong artist written into the title,as for the noddy that said use frostwire pfffft,frostwire is limewire the diff being is it's open source and has no decent filtering so you end up with a lot of crap files going lime pro is best,tho now with the kazaa settlement out of the way how long morpheous and lime last is anybody's guess
frostwire is made by the guys at limewire
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27. July 2006 @ 19:51 |
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I never thought that Kazza would go legit. I mean they I dont know how they got this cash.
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28. July 2006 @ 00:32 |
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$100million?! where is this money going to? The MPAA and the IFPI no doubt.
I see why they are doing this; many people are switching off Kazaa with torrents and different p2p apps. But how many people will switch if they are using Kazaa at the moment? NONE! They will switch to Shareaza or LimeWire or something similar...
Some people will use it as it might be cheaper and not have DRM like iTunes or something but still...
Also were the hell did they get $100million?
If you ask me piracy needs the balance; if there wasn't people trying to stop it everyone would do it and it would seriously damage the industry but if no-one did any piracy then it would also cause all sort of problems.
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28. July 2006 @ 04:10 |
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The 'industry' think they're stopping (or even slowing) something with these tactics.
They aren't.
Ever since analogue cassette tape recording became a mass-market item they've been bleating about this 'copying is killing music' idiotic nonsense.
It's a self-serving lie.
They delude themselves that all that copied stuff = a lost sale, another lie, or that 'intellectual property' is exactly the same as any other 'property', yet another ridiculous lie.
They deny all and any concepts of 'fair use' and end up in this mess because of it (I suppose it keeps the lawyers happy).
But when I've paid for my British TV licence, or my Sky (so I am contributing financially to 'the industry') or bought my CD or DVD or game they can get stuffed telling me what I can or can't copy to keep.
Perhaps if they'd produce better goods (the anti-scratch coatings on their discs are pathetic and practically beg us to 'pirate' a replacement) or make 'legal' downloads available at a sane price (the current situation of paying almost the price of a rental is laughable considering 'we' have all the over-head costs and they so few) things might change.
No sign of it yet though.
As has been pointed out 'the artists' (if such individuals really exist anymore) will see a small fraction of nothing of this money.
......and one last thing, I've yet to meet the artist that didn't want their art distributed as widely as possible.
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28. July 2006 @ 11:45 |
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WELL THIS SUCKS! i wonder how much they'll have to pay per song...
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