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getting dvd burn rings, freezes upon play

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  1. davboo

    davboo Member

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    Can anyone please help give me some ideas to solve this problem? I've been burning DVDs successfully for 6 months or so, but now always get a burn ring about 1/4 inch from the start of the burn in the middle of the disc, which causes the DVD to freeze about 1 to 2 minutes into the movie when I play it. Occasionaly the burn ring is about 1/2 inch from the outer edge of the disc, but I haven't had a successful burn for weeks :(
    I use DVDdecrypter and/or DVD shrink for extraction, and Nero 6.6 to burn. I've tried writing at 4X and 2X. I also tried DVDclone and get exactly the same problem. I've tried Sony and TDK DVD-R media, with the same results. I also defragged the hard drive.
    Has anyone got any ideas? I'd really appreciate any help, thanks.
    Here's the Nero log.....
    Windows XP 5.1
    IA32
    WinAspi: -
    ahead WinASPI: File 'C:\Program Files\Ahead\Nero\Wnaspi32.dll': Ver=2.0.1.68, size=160016 bytes, created 7/28/2004 4:51:12 PM
    Nero version: 6.6.0.1
    Recorder: <HL-DT-ST DVD+-RW GWA4164B>Version: D108 - HA 0 TA 1 - 6.6.0.1
    Adapter driver: <atapi> HA 0
    Drive buffer : 2048kB
    Bus Type : via Inquiry data (1) -> ATAPI, detected: ATAPI
    Connected to MMC as unknown drive with class-nr : 1
    Drive is autodetected - recorder class: Std. MMC recorder
    CD-ROM: <HL-DT-ST DVD+-RW GWA4164B>Version: D108 - HA 0 TA 1 - 6.6.0.1
    Adapter driver: <atapi> HA 0

    === Scsi-Device-Map ===
    CdRomPeripheral : SONY DVD-ROM DDU1615 atapi Port 0 ID 0 DMA: On
    CdRomPeripheral : HL-DT-ST DVD+-RW GWA4164B atapi Port 0 ID 1 DMA: On
    DiskPeripheral : SAMSUNG HD160JJ/P atapi Port 1 ID 0 DMA: On

    === CDRom-Device-Map ===
    SONY DVD-ROM DDU1615 D: CDRom0
    HL-DT-ST DVD+-RW GWA4164 E: CDRom1
    =======================

    AutoRun : 1
    Excluded drive IDs:
    WriteBufferSize: 83886080 (0) Byte
    ShowDrvBufStat : 0
    BUFE : 0
    Physical memory : 1022MB (1046604kB)
    Free physical memory: 610MB (625520kB)
    Memory in use : 40 %
    Uncached PFiles: 0x0
    Use Static Write Speed Table: 0
    Use Inquiry : 1
    Global Bus Type: default (0)
    Check supported media : Disabled (0)

    17.8.2006
    UDF/ISO compilation
    6:33:05 PM #1 Phase 112 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1853
    DVD-Video files reallocation started

    6:33:05 PM #2 Text 0 File DVDVideoCompilation.cpp, Line 549
    Content of VIDEO_TS.IFO has been modified

    6:33:05 PM #3 Text 0 File DVDVideoCompilation.cpp, Line 549
    Content of VIDEO_TS.BUP has been modified

    6:33:05 PM #4 Phase 113 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1853
    DVD-Video files reallocation completed

    6:33:05 PM #5 Text 0 File Isodoc.cpp, Line 6165
    Iso document burn settings
    ------------------------------------------
    Determine maximum speed : FALSE
    Simulate : FALSE
    Write : TRUE
    Finalize CD : TRUE
    Multisession : FALSE
    Burning mode : DAO
    Mode : 1
    ISO Level : 1 (Max. of 11 = 8 + 3 char)
    Character set : ISO 9660
    Joliet :FALSE
    Allow pathdepth more than 8 directories : TRUE
    Allow more than 255 characters in path : TRUE
    Write ISO9660 ;1 file extensions : TRUE

    6:33:05 PM #6 Phase 111 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1853
    DVD-Video files sorted

    6:33:05 PM #7 Text 0 File Reader.cpp, Line 127
    Reader running

    6:33:05 PM #8 Text 0 File Writer.cpp, Line 122
    Writer HL-DT-ST DVD+-RW GWA4164B running

    6:33:05 PM #9 ISO9660GEN -11 File geniso.cpp, Line 3286
    First writeable address = 0 (0x00000000)

    6:33:05 PM #10 ISO9660GEN -11 File geniso.cpp, Line 3286
    First writeable address = 0 (0x00000000)

    6:33:05 PM #11 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 3117
    Turn on Disc-at-once, using DVD media

    6:33:05 PM #12 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 256
    Last possible write address on media: 2297903 (510:38.53, 4488MB)
    Last address to be written: 1599375 (355:25.00, 3123MB)

    6:33:05 PM #13 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 268
    Write in overburning mode: NO (enabled: CD)

    6:33:05 PM #14 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 2309
    Recorder: HL-DT-ST DVD+-RW GWA4164B, Media type: DVD-R
    Disc Manufacturer: SONY16 - D1
    Disc Application Code: 64, Disc Physical Code: 193

    6:33:05 PM #15 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 430
    >>> Protocol of DlgWaitCD activities: <<<
    =========================================

    6:33:05 PM #16 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 844
    Setup items (after recorder preparation)
    0: TRM_DATA_MODE1 ()
    2 indices, index0 (150) not provided
    original disc pos #0 + 1599376 (1599376) = #1599376/355:25.1
    relocatable, disc pos for caching/writing not required/ required, no patch infos
    -> TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048, config 0, wanted index0 0 blocks, length 1599376 blocks [HL-DT-ST DVD+-RW GWA4164B]
    --------------------------------------------------------------

    6:33:05 PM #17 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 1047
    Prepare recorder [HL-DT-ST DVD+-RW GWA4164B] for write in CUE-sheet-DAO
    DAO infos:
    ==========
    MCN: ""
    TOCType: 0x00; Session Closed, disc fixated
    Tracks 1 to 1:
    1: TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048/0x00, FilePos 0 0 3275522048, ISRC ""
    DAO layout:
    ===========
    __Start_|____Track_|_Idx_|_RecDep_|_CtrlAdr_
    0 | lead-in | 0 | 0x00 | 0x41
    0 | 1 | 0 | 0x00 | 0x41
    0 | 1 | 1 | 0x00 | 0x41
    1599376 | lead-out | 1 | 0x00 | 0x41

    6:33:05 PM #18 Phase 24 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1853
    Caching of files started

    6:33:06 PM #19 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 4003
    Cache writing successful.

    6:33:06 PM #20 Phase 25 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1853
    Caching of files completed

    6:33:06 PM #21 Phase 36 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1853
    Burn process started at 4x (5,540 KB/s)

    6:33:06 PM #22 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 2497
    Verifying disc position of item 0 (relocatable, disc pos, no patch infos, orig at #0): write at #0

    6:33:06 PM #23 Text 0 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1711
    Set remaining time: 10:02,354 (602354ms) -> OK

    6:33:06 PM #24 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 2027
    Recording mode: Sequential Recording Mode

    6:33:06 PM #25 Text 0 File Mmc.cpp, Line 20673
    Set BUFE: Buffer underrun protection -> ON

    6:33:06 PM #26 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 2168
    Start write address at LBA 0
    DVD high compatibility mode: Yes

    6:33:06 PM #27 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 8281
    ---- DVD Structure: Physical Format Information (00h) ----
    Layer: 0, Address: 0 (0 h), AGID: 0; Length: 2050
    Book Type: DVD-R (2), Part Version: 5
    Disc Size: 120 mm, Maximum Rate: <not specified> (F h)
    Number of Layers: 1, Track Path: Parallel Track Path (PTP), Layer Type: recordable
    Linear Density: 0,267 um/bit, Track Density: 0,74 um/track
    Starting Physical Sector Number of Data Area: 30000 h (DVD-ROM, DVD-R/-RW, DVD+R/+RW)
    End Physical Sector Number of Data Area: 26127F h
    End Sector Number in Layer 0: 0 h
    Data in Burst Cutting Area (BCA) does not exist
    Start sector number of the current Border-Out: 2FE10 h
    Start sector number of the next Border-In: 2FFA0 h
    Media Specific [16..63]:
    00 60 00 10 20 30 40 50 - 00 00 00 21 00 00 00 00 .`...0@P...!....
    00 02 FE 10 00 02 FF A0 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
    00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................

    6:43:12 PM #28 Text 0 File WriterStatus.cpp, Line 116
    <HL-DT-ST DVD+-RW GWA4164B> start writing Lead-Out at LBA 1599376 (186790h), lenght 0 blocks

    6:43:12 PM #29 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 229
    all writers idle, stopping conversion

    6:43:12 PM #30 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 2410
    EndDAO: Last written address was 1599375

    6:43:42 PM #31 Text 0 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1711
    Set remaining time: 0:00,000 (0ms) -> OK

    6:43:42 PM #32 Text 0 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1711
    Set remaining time: 0:00,000 (0ms) -> OK

    6:43:42 PM #33 Phase 37 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1853
    Burn process completed successfully at 4x (5,540 KB/s)


    Existing drivers:
    File 'Drivers\ADPU160M.SYS': Ver=v3.60a (Lab01_N(johnstra).010529-2218), size=101888 bytes, created 8/17/2001 3:07:32 PM
    File 'Drivers\PXHELP20.SYS': Ver=2.03.32a, size=20640 bytes, created 4/25/2005 3:03:00 AM (Prassi/Veritas driver for win 2K)
    File 'Drivers\atapi.sys': Ver=5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158), size=95360 bytes, created 8/3/2004 11:59:44 PM (Adapter driver for rec)

    Registry Keys:
    HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\WinLogon\AllocateCDROMs : 0 (Security Option)

    ====== *** Nero-Burning Rom, History File *** ======
     
  2. 300bowler

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    well, have u tried ImgBurn to see if nero is causing the problem?

    What is the max speed of the disks u r using?
    It is best to burn at half of the max speed on the disks

    Is it a dell PC? if so u might want to look for a firmware update?

    It could be the media?
    u could pick some up and try these to rule out if the media is the problem?

    this is the best media u can get
    Taiyo Yuden(Online)
    Verbatims
    Sony(MIJ)
    Maxell(MIJ)
    Fuji(MIJ)
    MIJ=made in Japan
     
  3. davboo

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    Thanks for the reply! No, I hadn't heard of ImgBurn - but will try it.

    As for the discs, they're rated at 16X.

    Yes, it's a Dell PC, so I will look for a firmware update. Also will try a different media, but I'm suspicious it's something else as I've burned OK in the past with Sony, TDK, Memorex and Verbatim.
     
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    Well, ImgBurn gave me the same problems with a burn ring as Nero. So I downloaded new firmware for my drive, which helped a bit, although I still got a burn ring on 50% of the discs I burned. Finally I tried with Verbatim DVD+R discs, which helps a lot, but I still get the occasional burn ring and another coaster.
    It's odd, as I could use many different medias before. Now it looks like I'm restricted to Verbatim.
    So does anyone know, are the Sony and TDK media worse than they were a few months ago, or do you think my drive is faulty?
     
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    Well it all depends on the Manufactor of those disks, i have heard good reviews about the Sony ones u were using and tdk is not considered to be good media.

    Just curious what speed are u burning the Verbs at or the Sonys?
    If they are 16x max speed i would suggest burning them a 8x speed, especially the verbs, as i saw on ur log u were burning them at 4x
     
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  6. davboo

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    Just tried burning at 8X again, and get a big burn ring towards the end of the disc, and it freezes on playing it. If I burn at 4X, most of the time the discs are OK, but sometimes I still get a lighter burn ring, or sometimes even a semicircle, near the middle of the disc, but my player seems to read it OK.
    If the drive is on the way out is this what happens, or do I still need to try a few things software-wise?
    Thanks for all the help!
     
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    im not sure if that happens when ur burner is going out, wait for someone with more knowledge about that suject to reply, i really dont know what else it could be if the same thing happens with different burning programs and high quality media like the verbatims.

    So this doesn't happen everytime?
    did u get the newest version of the firmware?
    Im kinda stumped as i said earlier.
     
  8. davboo

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    I replaced my DVD burner with a new one, and the problem is solved. I can burn on any media, any speed now. So, it was a hardware problem. Thanks for your help.
     
  9. narcismo

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    davboo, been watching ur post. sure sounds like a bunk burner 2 me. since thats the most expensive fix, i wanted to reserve my opinion.
    glad u had good results!
    NARCISMO

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    if u had good results on this site...please refer a friend!
     
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  10. narcismo

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    davboo,
    even though ur drive is new, u still may want to check for a firmware update. 4 real. :)
    NARCISM0

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