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PS3 will win console war say researchers
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article published on 19 August, 2006
Research firm The Yankee Group believe that Sony's highly anticipated Playstation 3 console will hold off stiff competition from Microsoft & Nintendo to dominate the battle of the consoles once more. In a press release this week, it stated it believes that, "Microsoft is off to a fast start, launching the Xbox 360 nearly 12 months before the PlayStation 3. However, by the time third-generation ... [ read the full article ]
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19. August 2006 @ 10:58 |
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sony will rule us all
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s3a
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19. August 2006 @ 12:03 |
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Sony will do very well indeed but I don't think that that will be because of games but because it is the cheapest Blu-ray player in existence. I am not saying that it will do bad in the video game market but I am saying that the majority of their "ruling" will be because of the Blu-ray capability and if someone buys this as a Blu-ray player then they might as well use it for games. That is how I think, they will make money but once again, IT IS NOT because of their games!
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19. August 2006 @ 12:18 |
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lol, ur kinda right
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19. August 2006 @ 12:19 |
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s3a- maybe in the first year, it'll be the cheapest Blu-ray player, but as time goes on, you'll find Blu-ray drives for much cheaper. i do believe sony will win in the end and i believe a large portion of their victory will be because of their exclusive game lineup
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19. August 2006 @ 12:35 |
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Quote:"i believe a large portion of their victory will be because of their exclusive game lineup"
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True, but I still think that the Blu-ray capability will have a greater effect than their exclusive game lineup, like you said for atleast the first year then that won't be the case anymore.
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19. August 2006 @ 13:02 |
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It will because they are offering more for a better price
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19. August 2006 @ 13:10 |
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"Sony will do very well indeed but I don't think that that will be because of games but because it is the cheapest Blu-ray player in existence."
Well if Blu-ray doesnt last they can use it play games.
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Ankoku
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19. August 2006 @ 13:18 |
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@s3a,
How can you say that their games wont have some impact. The best lineup of games comes out of Nintendo, at least fun-family friendly games, but c'mon, 360 is going to have the weakest lineup of games, same as X-box. Of course Halo 3 wil put up monster numbers, and Oblivion has done well, but beyond that, the rest of the lineup will probably be available on all consoles. That has always been Microsoft's downfall as a result of their late arrival to the video game industry. The bulk of purchases will, as you all say, will come from the Blu-ray player, but it will have the greatest staying power because of that line-up brought out by SquareEnix. Personally,Im not jumping at the prospect of buying a $600 console on the first day of release. I'll probably wait a year or two when they improve on the backward capability, till then I'll be playin Wii
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19. August 2006 @ 13:40 |
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$600=the next 3DO.
I think that after a year when the price goes down a bit the system will take off significantly. If it doesnt, than it can join the 3DO club. :)
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19. August 2006 @ 14:04 |
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I knew when I read the thread title this would get ugly....yes its great to think about what is going to happen, but untill there are numbers to support your thoughts, its just talk.
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19. August 2006 @ 15:00 |
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Personally, I disagree, 600$ plus tax for a console really doesn't compute well with me. For the same price, you get a new computer tower, that has more advantages and less limitations than the PS3.
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19. August 2006 @ 16:03 |
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Omg plz sony obviously paid to have researchers say that ps3 is going to lose
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novicebb
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19. August 2006 @ 16:08 |
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I am not trying to be funny but I just think that too many people are PS junkies and just think that because PS1 and PS2 ruled then PS3 will dominate once again. Maybe within 2-4 years it will but I truly think that I will not initially.
Seriously the cost will be a hard sell. I don't care how many people really will want this game system, how many people can afford a game system at $500-600 dollars and that doesnt even include accessories and games. Games is what sells a system. PS2 dominated because if its libary and how can some take advantage of the library when the system is more than $500 and then games may range from $60-75 each?
If Microsoft can improve its library and develop some killer apps then I think that it has a strong chance of closing the gap. If this Microsoft "Ipod killer" really does have desirable design and features and have a reasonable price then this may also help with the Xbox 360 because you know Microsoft will tout the features you can take advantage of with this and a microsoft personal media player device.
Plus I keep hearing people tout that Blu ray on PS3 is the cheapest available but so what if games and movies don't really take advantage of what blu ray may have to offer. Most of the games I bet will not even be on Blu-ray format since the PS3 also plays dvd and audio cd's. Have you guys seen a blu ray movie? Nothing special than the special addition dvd's. Definitely not worth the cost right now. Also can you play the PS3 on a analog tv set? I don't know but everything I read seems to be for the digital age with its HDMI inputs and all I was just wondering.
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19. August 2006 @ 16:43 |
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I seriously dont think so, the price is too high and if blueray fails the ps3 will have a major set back. I dont plan on buying it until around 2009 when it will be nice an cheap and all the games I want will be too. I dont think Snowny will dominate this time and I do think the Wii will sell a hell of a lot more than 11 million units; most likely they will sell 11M in the first year. Of course this is my opinion and I do not like Snowny anyway, they make JUNK.
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19. August 2006 @ 16:51 |
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Also keep in mind that games on the 360 and PS3 will look the same as developers already stated that they wont invest in the higher output for ps3. Games are going to be made for the 360 and then ported over to the PS3; of course this is only for games that will come out on both systems. In order for anyone to notice the difference HD DVD and Bluebetamaxray will offer you will need a new HD tv with 1080i at least. Almost NO GAMES WILL BE REALEASED IN 1080p. Even MGS4 wont be released that way and Kojima usually has the most advanced tech in his games. Dont be fooled people, the PS3 is very difficult to develope for and there WILL NOT be many exclusive games this time around, to expensive for publishers to pick just one system. I think the 360 is the way to go with nextgen and the Wii is the best innovation around.
again just my 2 cents
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19. August 2006 @ 17:28 |
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I don't care how many people really will want this game system, how many people can afford a game system at $500-600 dollars and that doesnt even include accessories and games.
A lot of people. To a lot a people $600 really isn't that much especially if they want it. Even for the people who can't really afford it a lot of them will still get one.
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Omg plz sony obviously paid to have researchers say that ps3 is going to lose
You might want to re-read that.
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XdjxedxdX
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19. August 2006 @ 18:27 |
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Here it tis boi's straight up this game system is gonna make record achievments just like ps1 and ps2. Sonys got the backing to do it ,there the biggest maker of electronic shit out there.Which means they have the money to play with whatever they want . Why do you think a company would go ahead and make a game system that they arent even gonna make much money on individually ,"they said they would only make like 50 bucks off each one cause of all the technoligy that went in to it" they know this will be the next new thing .
And yes novicebb
{I am not trying to be funny but I just think that too many people are PS junkies and just think that because PS1 and PS2 ruled then PS3 will dominate once again. Maybe within 2-4 years it will but I truly think that I will not initially.}
THIS WILL BE A BIG FACTOR what does sony have that nintendo lost somehow A HUGE FOLLOWING!!!!
lol im already lined up to get first dibs on these bad boys when they start selling i mean what do you think they will sell for this time on the streets .Ya know when stores run out and have waiting lists??? $1000 $2000 maybe? we'll find out soon.
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19. August 2006 @ 19:06 |
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>.> the analysts don't know crap about videogames... these guys were saying Wii will win (http://www.afterdawn.com/news/archive/7756.cfm) now these people are talking Sony. I wonder how Sony feels about being included as a console system...
-side note, I've been seeing commercials for blue-ray discs. Can't say the same for HD-DVD...
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19. August 2006 @ 20:08 |
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Man PS3 Sucks w/ it’s Spiderman font.
Na Just kidding, I love it.
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19. August 2006 @ 20:11 |
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Why do we even give a shit though?? We aren't making any money from any of this so we shouldn't really care who wins or loses or ties. If I was top dog at Sony, Microsoft, or Nintendo then I would probably care but I'm not.
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19. August 2006 @ 20:12 |
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MS is coming out with HD-DVD at about 200 to 250 as the cheapest HD player around. For watching movies vs. storing files HD DVD is pretty much equal (better?) than BluRay. Of course, just a few early models of either are actually out. Given that there still is no advantage with Sony as being the HD content provider (assuming they share their video/film archives). You also have to remember that by 2011 (or even 2008) the stand alone players will be about 300 USD, hardly a compelling reason to run off and get either game console, if you weren't a gamer.
Even if Sony does have a larger market share in 2011, they already have lost much of it. This is good for the consumer. If not a superior product, why would/should any one player be dominant?
Look beyond today as tomorrow might just be a little different. The article was talking about 2011.
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Ankoku
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19. August 2006 @ 21:50 |
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C'mon now, MS is offering the very least of all 3 systems, it doesnt fully commit to the "format war" and it doesnt really offer any "new" style of gaming (I put new in quotes because I was at a Gameworks in Vegas and saw the same motion sensor technology from nintendo in like the 80's...it was like a glove you used to play mike tyson boxing) And BostonC, you should just hand in your gamer card now, the article is going on the idea that the MATURITY of the console reaches its max roughly 5 years after its release, meaning that after the dust has cleared, Sony will be on top. In order for that to happen, it needs to dominate for at least 3 of the 5 years, which it undoubtedly will. You can't lose market share when you haven't gotten into the market yet. Everybody is assuming that this war goes the way of the format war, the reality is MS has already thrown in the towel as far as the format war is concerned, by not going whole hog behind HD-DVD, it has basically said "Hey we can always just release an external bluray player"... 360 will sell, but a half hearted effort from Microsoft will lead to weak market share
P.S. Lethal_B- I don't mean to be a prude but I think the phrase you were looking for in the article was "clear sailing"
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akkuma
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19. August 2006 @ 23:09 |
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blue ray wont be in most homes for YEARS to come, too many sony junkies are speaking on tech. that they have not done research on. ps3 as a cheap blue ray player... so what??? regular dvd's will STILL be around for a good while longer. most people will not upgrade thier entire home theatre system just for the sake of blue ray.
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Zygfryd
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20. August 2006 @ 01:16 |
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MrToast, 19 August 2006 20:51
Also keep in mind that games on the 360 and PS3 will look the same as developers already stated that they wont invest in the higher output for ps3. Games are going to be made for the 360 and then ported over to the PS3; of course this is only for games that will come out on both systems. In order for anyone to notice the difference HD DVD and Bluebetamaxray will offer you will need a new HD tv with 1080i at least. Almost NO GAMES WILL BE REALEASED IN 1080p. Even MGS4 wont be released that way and Kojima usually has the most advanced tech in his games. Dont be fooled people, the PS3 is very difficult to develope for and there WILL NOT be many exclusive games this time around, to expensive for publishers to pick just one system. I think the 360 is the way to go with nextgen and the Wii is the best innovation around.
again just my 2 cents
Have you done some research before posting this bullshit ? Do you know why there will be no games in 1080p ? Because its limited to 30 fps, do you realy want to play next gen games in 30 frames per second ?
I would rather play in 1280x720 60p, instead of 1920x1080 30p.
Image is from http://www.howstuffworks.com/hdtv.htm
For the part "How hard is to write on PS3" i remember they said the same about ps2 and look how big is library of ps2 games.
Remember also that xbox360 will have HD-DVD drive, but there won't be any games for it, maybe it won't matter now but later more space will be useful for game developers. I'm not sure but does blue-ray have move capacity ?
Sorry for my english its not my native language.
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Lethal_B
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20. August 2006 @ 01:57 |
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P.S. Lethal_B- I don't mean to be a prude but I think the phrase you were looking for in the article was "clear sailing"
Noun 1. plain sailing - easy unobstructed progress; "after we solved that problem the rest was plain sailing"
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/plain+sailing
Noun 1. clear sailing - easy unobstructed progress; "after we solved that problem the rest was plain sailing"
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/clear+sailing
I guess both mean the same thing ;)
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