This might help someone...

http://meritline.stores.yahoo.net/taiyo-...er-thermal.html

SMS has pretty much the same deal also

im gonna go ahead and buy those markers from amazon.com i'll let you guys know how they work out

hello guys,
hows the new liteon LH-20A1H-186?? are these anygood??
$37 for a retailed version good deal or no??

Originally posted by Yujenh:

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hello guys,
hows the new liteon LH-20A1H-186?? are these anygood??
$37 for a retailed version good deal or no??

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Hello Yujenh!!

I don't have the LightScribe version but I have the LH-20A1S and I'm liking it better than the LH-18A1P. The thing is the LH-18A1P is a good burner, scanner, and ripper so that's saying something. I've only burned about 60-80 discs so far but it does well enough. :)

I think that hobbitt112 has the SAME model you do so hopefully he'll add his 2 cents too. :)

....gm

btw I got mine delivered for $28.99, Newegg.com had some crazy sale going on at the time. :D

OK, I'll throw my 2¢ in.

I've got 2 of the LH-20A1Hs, 1 internal & 1 external.

The only negatives I've heard is some people consider it noisy and I've also heard that the Lite-On 18X drives burn better.

There is some noise when it winds up but my internal is in a case with 6 fans so to me it's not too noticable. And when I'm burning, I'm just burning and that computer is in a separate room. The external seems quieter and is in it's own case which deadens most noise.

Quality burn-wise I'm satisfied. I haven't achieved a 98 burn score like some folks I know, but I routinely achieve 93-95s.

I've gone away from Lightscribe but on CDs the images are/were crisp but DVDs are/were kind of fuzzy (the Lightscribe layer is deeper in the DVDs, harder to burn?). They do fade.

That price seems good, I counldn't find it cheaper. If you need the lightscribe software & Nero Essentials, get the retail version, if you don't need it, get the OEM version and save about $7.00.

98 scores are exciting, but in time they fade to lower scores as the pit marks degrade. (Bo Derek was a "10" once, but lately she's slipped to an 8. The ravages of time.)

As for Lightscribe, the CD-Rs look better because the reflective layer is just below the photoreactive dye. DVDs have the reflective layer 0.6 mm (the thickness of the disc half) below the dye, giving a slightly fuzzy 3D effect. HP says some customers prefer the look of the DVD. I haven't met one yet.

Originally posted by JoeRyan:

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Bo Derek was a "10" once, but lately she's slipped to an 8. The ravages of time.

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excellent, nice one Joe :)

hey guys,
thanks for the response. the only reason I want to ask you guys is becasue some people left some bad feedback about it saying its the
coster machines and stuff like that.
I knew you guys going to have more reasonable comment then those.

greensman
@28.99 you got to be kidding me man. thats an awesome deal.
does it have free shipping too. i guess i'll get one if its
close to $30.

I forgot to mention that my LH-20A1S doesn't like the RITEK R05's very well. I've burned a few and it refuses to burn at 16X with the RITEK's, well it burns but it ain't pretty. LOL. 12X is slightly better and I can live with the 8X burns but they suck too. :)

I ordered the OEM version and received Nero 7 Essentials which I thought was cool. :) Anyway the Ritek R05's are the only discs that seem to be "difficult" with the LH-20A1S as the RITEK R03's perform NICELY!! Yep a 98 score with one of those so far. :D

I should be talking about TY's since this is the TY thread but HEY we all know they perform, WELL!!!! If your reading docTY I plugged your favorite media. hehehe. I'll do some burns later and see how those TY perform, like I don't already know. :D

.....gm

Mine didn't really like the 8x media, but that stuff is being fazed out. My drives love the 16x stuff though.

hello guys,
i guess i sort of got into little trouble deciding now. i saw
the pioneer 112 at the same price so should i get the 112 or the lite
on 20x??

Originally posted by Yujenh:

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hello guys,
i guess i sort of got into little trouble deciding now. i saw
the pioneer 112 at the same price so should i get the 112 or the lite
on 20x??

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Yujenh,
I would get which ever drive you trust. LOL. Forget the reviews at Newegg for a moment and look around at the other forums. :) VideoHelp, CDFreaks, CDRinfo, and some of the others to determine which is better suited for you. I think both drives are great BUT I have both. LOL. Of course I have the LH-20A1S and NOT the LH-20A1H, so take that with a grain of salt. :D

JUST remember that there is the chance of getting something that your system might not be compatible with or like for that matter. hehehe. Ask cincyrob about the LH-18A1P and his experiences with it. He had some trouble until the GLOH f/w update on a few media MID's but now loves the performance and burning abilities.

As always it's the compatibility of a system not the actual drive in my opinion. I've been VERY lucky in the drives that I've purchased and NEVER had any serious issues with any optical drives. I've had 2 Pioneers, 5 Lite-ons, 1 Samsung, and an Iomagic or something like that. It's in the work computer but I can't stand it. It burns but not so good. LOL.

Am I helping here or not?? LOL To tell you the truth I'm thinking about the new Pioneer 212D but I want to make sure the f/w is keeping up with the media technology. :D

...gm

thanks greenman,you have help tremendously.
i guess i might just end up with one of each
to test them out since they are relatively cheap.
the reason i want to get new burners is because
i dont want to put to much wear and tear on my
beloved benq dw1640 and 1650s.

Originally posted by greensman:

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JUST remember that there is the chance of getting something that your system might not be compatible with or like for that matter. hehehe. Ask cincyrob about the LH-18A1P and his experiences with it. He had some trouble until the GLOH f/w update on a few media MID's but now loves the performance and burning abilities.

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Yep got the newest Firmware updates and that bad boy will and has burnd everything i have put in it.(oh thats only been TY's& verbs)lmao jokeing

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As always it's the compatibility of a system not the actual drive in my opinion. I've been VERY lucky in the drives that I've purchased and NEVER had any serious issues with any optical drives. I've had 2 Pioneers, 5 Lite-ons, 1