router problem

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  1. batal21

    batal21 Member

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    helo,


    i receive my internet connection wireless from my isp thru a DLINK access point (my isp took its mac adress) there is a straight (i also tried crossed same result) cable plugued into the AP wich i use as internet connection.

    so the wireless part of the AP is to connect me to my ISP the wired part is for me its my internet cable connection.

    my isp gave me static ip settings...

    when i plug the cable into my desktop NIC it functions well, same for the laptop all works fine websites everything but


    i have a problem connecting to websites after i installed a
    router to share my internet connection with all my computers
    at home.

    i have a linksys wireless g router. i configured everything well in the router and the dhcp server of the router did for my computers. but the problem is that i have no acces to websites, only msn messenger worked well on all pc's wired and wireless connections all went ok for msn, and for the LAN i didnt try yet one thing at a time lets resolve the internet first.

    i attached with the thread a print screen of my router configuration
    page.

    http://www.angelfire.com/alt2/batal4/router.html

    for your information the dhcp server of the router gave to one of my computers (all my computers have received the same config only IP differs ) :

    IP (192.168.1.100)

    the subnet mask is (255.255.255.0)

    the gateway is the ip of the router (192.168.1.1)

    the DNS is (172.26.25.1) the same as my ISP's one


    tx in advance for any help
     
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  2. Dunker

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    Quick question - did you reboot your modem after installing the router? Also, if you did, does your ISP require that you manually register the MAC address? Uusually this is automatic, but some networks (mainly corporate though) require you to manually call in the MAC address of your new router as a means of preventing unauthorized access.
     
  3. batal21

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    yes i reboot my modem after configuring the router
    (when i dont reboot the msn messenger dont function when i do it functions but the websites nothing...)

    my isp is a small company owned by a young guy he dont seems to know a lot about networking!!! even so he do all the technical things of his company.

    i called him he came at home he didnt know how to resolve the problem ... :)

    the thing is he took the mac of the Access Point only (like i said its his AP i receive the internet broadband wireless via the AP) so in his network he have the AP mac adress not to alow any one with an AP to enter his network ... but for me with the cable that goes out of the AP i can put it in any of my pc's at home and i have the internet function well no problem. only when i plug it into the router there is this problem of website access.

    and to inform you a little bit more i took the linksys router and my laptop to a friend he have an internet connection that uses DHCP server ( mine is static ip ) i configured the internet part of the router to receive DHCP, i configured the LAN part also to use DHCP server to configure my pc and it worked well i could access websites and everything.

    so i beleive the problem is in the configuration of the STATIC IP on the router and computer.

    (my ISP gave me STATIC IP settings i cannot change that!!! so on the internet configuration of my router it have to be STATIC IP settings) thus i tried to use the LAN part of the router as DHCP server to configure my pc's for the internal network you know but it didnt resolve the problem.

    ill send a small drawing of my connection things to make it clear and tx again for your time trying to help me.

     
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    I know you're trying hard to explain it but some of your writing just isn't coming through. Here's what I think might be a problem, and I think you are one the right track: The Access Point has DHCP running so it'll assign LAN computers such as yours IP addresses, correct? If you are trying to set a static IP on your router, when the AP wants to give out addresses via DHCP, you may have a problem. Your router is no different than any other computer connecting to that Access Point, so if your PC was using DHCP with the AP, then so must the router. Try setting the WAN (internet) side of the router to use DHCP and plug that into the AP and let's see what happens. BTW, if it helps, try connecting everything with cables rather than using wireless if you can, so we can rule out wireless problems.
     
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    Hey, your DNS looks like it's screwed up. Try punching http://198.133.219.25 into your browser's address bar. That's Cisco's website. If it comes up, it's probably a DNS problem.

    If so, try manually entering your ISP's DNS servers into your router's Static DNS 1 and Static DNS 2 fields. Your settings indicate you are using the router as a DNS server as well and that is frequently a problem.
     
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    clone your mac address to your router so that it's the same as the access point

    set the computers to auto get ip

    should work
    BUT.......... if not
    then connect one pc to internet and connect router to that pc that ought to get the rest onto the net
     
  8. batal21

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    @dunker

    i tried this ip websites thing for the DNS it didnt work!!!
    i'll attach a drawing of how i configured the pc's and router it will be easier for you to determine were i made a mistake ;) if i did...

    NB: the pc configuration i show USING THE ROUTER is different tests made on ONE pc. ALL are for ONE pc after the router.

    http://www.angelfire.com/alt2/batal4/configuration.html

    if not i will have to try the proposition of "pcrepair" to put the internet in one pc and go out into the router
    thus i bought the router not to let my pc act as a server !!! :)

    or i will try my isp come at home and change the dlink AP to assign dhcp server we will see if he accepts i think this will resolve the problem.

    @pcrepair

    if i have no choice but to take this issue of connecting one pc to internet then the router to this pc how should i configure the

    1) server pc (the pc connected to internet)

    i know that i must have 2 network cards

    first NIC connected to internet , second NIC to the router

    first NIC i should configure with the STATIC SETTINGS of my isp

    second NIC ???



    2) the router

    internet part of the router how should i configure ???

    LAN part of the router ???


    3) the other pc's at home how should i configure NIC's ???
     
  9. Dunker

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    What PCRepair is suggesting is called Internet Connection Sharing or ICS. XP has a wizard that will set it up automatically if you go into Networking, use Add a Connection, and there is a help or network diagram in there that even diagrams what the connection looks like.

    But, let's try to avoid that if possible.

    Some ideas to try:

    Disable your firewall on your PC. Reconfigure it the connection works without it. Make sure hte Windows firewall is also not running.

    As PCRepair said, try cloning the MAC.

    http://www.linksys.com/servlet/Sate...290855&pagename=Linksys/Common/VisitorWrapper

    Try pinging 67.32.118.46 from DOS. Go into Start->Run enter "CMD" and enter the command:
    ping 67.32.118.46
    If it tells you that none of the pings were lost in transit, your connection is okay and you probably have some kind of filter running.
    Look to see if any HTTP or other filters are enabled in the Firewall portion ot the Linksys router's configuration.
     
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    The tracert with the router connected says it's tracing to 192.168.1.1, your router. Is that what you put in?

    I assuming you had full connectivity without the router. I noticed that WAP seems to filter all ICMP traffic.

    Question - did your ISP have you install some software? I'm wondering if you don't need some oddball connection protocol like PPPoE. Look in the Linksys router's WAN configuration for PPPoE or Enternet. Most likely, it's in the pick list where Static IP is. Try using some of those connection methods.
     
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    192.168.1.1 this is the IP of my router ...

    no my isp did not require me to install any program.

    do you want me to use PPPoE instead of using tcp/ip , i didnt understand what you want me to do ... in the router were i configure the internet there is nothing about PPPoE.

    i entered linksys.com and made a live chat with some assistant there , they told me that i have to put the MTU on the router 1300

    and they made me make an upgrade of the firmware thus nothing changed my connection with the router is the same still have website problem!!!
     
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    Is hostname or domain required by your ISP? I doubt it but I want to be sure this was covered because I see it in your router config. Also, PPPoE is likely in the same drop box as where it says "Static IP" in the Linksys configuration page you showed in your first post. I'd be surprised if Linksys does not support this and other protocol methods.
     

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