The Official PC building thread -3rd Edition

Oman7,
You're welcome. I'm sure that Newegg will replace it and get it to you real fast. Just tell them you are building a new computer and can't do anything more until you get the drive for it! You might even get it overnight! Take heart though. Somewhere in Japan some guy is shaking his head trying to install "yours" in his laptop! LOL!!

Russ

 

I lol'd. Thanks for that LOL!

 

haha i can imagine that aswell.

 

That's what I was thinking... Some poor Japanese fella is cursing up a storm... hehehehee.

 

you know we never fight over CPUs, so because of that, i though id post this by anad might be of some help

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/default.aspx?b=2&c=1

 

Russ: I Agree, a vast number of programs are written with Intel's compiler (Which is why they'll never all end up getting fixed to not include the anti-AMD code), but not all programs show as much of a bias towards Intel as some, in fact most don't. I don't perceive that as an example where AMD CPUs are going to get faster, but more that not every program is affected by this code as much as another.
If every single program that wasn't using Intel's compiler showed a vast lead for AMD CPUs, someone would have noticed by now.
I don't remember anyone busting you for using the Inquirer before, and I've always been sceptical of them, since the very beginning.
The 47.4% argument is for one case. Let's hear a few more examples first. I imagine the worst case scenario was picked to highlight the problem.
Why would overclocking be any different? It's clearly obvious that if the CPUs are overclocked by different amounts then that's skewing the test, they would never overclock them to skew the figures for a lawsuit, and nor would the impact of all this change if either the Intel or AMD CPUs were overclocked.

 

best mouse created?

http://www.yankodesign.com/2010/02/11/you-mouse-around-here-often/

well only if you are single

 

http://www.behardware.com/articles/778-1/giant-roundup-131-intel-and-amd-processors.html

131 CPUs tested.

very impressed by the P2X4 975. then again it has a high clock.

 

Very interesting. The AMDs aren't coming off well in games at all, but there are a couple of workstation tasks they really shine at. The differing role of hyperthreading is interesting to see too.

 

surprised how bad the athalon 2 quads do, intel duals constantly outpacing them.

 

Hehe thought needing two HD5970s to run Bad Company 2 at 1920x1200 was bad? To max Arma 2 smoothly you'll need a 14Ghz i7! Good luck with that...

 

Sam,
I'm assuming that it was benchmarks for the 47.4%. That's what the guy who found the problem said he was doing. Realistically, no one is expecting anywhere near that kind of performance increase. There was another person named Fogg, or something like that who sent emails to Intel about the problems the compiler was creating for AMDs. He specifically said the compiler. The Court Deposed him and took his email correspondence, between him and Intel as evidence. This was in 2007.

I understand fully that there was no overclocking in the testing. Even if you overclocked both brands to the same speed, they scale differently, so the results wouldn't mean very much. When the time comes, we'll all know how well things work or don't work, as the case may be.

The computer I enjoyed using the most was the Q9550 with the new stepping. They also have a Q9550 w/C1 stepping, but it's down waiting on a new PSU. Still, since I already have a modern AMD, I would probably go with the Phenom II 955BE, with the new C3 stepping. It's reported to run cold as ice (FOS), and $100 cheaper than the C1 Q9550! Many reports of 30C idle temps at 4.0GHz, without going broke on a CPU cooler. Some even claimed to be at 4.0GHz with the supplied stock cooler. If it's like the cooler that comes with the Phenom II 940BE, I can believe it, as that's a very nice 4 pipe cooler. Very quiet too and beautiful to look at. It's like a finely crafted work of art!

Right now, this is all theoretical discussion as no one has any idea of what the scope of any improvement will be, once the offending software is turned off. My guess is that Benchmarks should improve the most, or any program that does that sort of number crunching. I would also guess that the better Phenom IIs would benefit the most. We'll all know, when it happens!

Best Regards,
Russ

 

Ha ha! I don't think I mentioned it. The 550W corsair(CMPSU-550VX) has an ample length 8pin cpu connection for the HAF 932! I did not require the extension. I thought that was just lovely LOL! So far, it operates without hitch. I don't expect there to be any problems. I plan on installing GTA IV later.

You should have seen how much dust I blew out of my poor GTX 260. It almost made sick. Brought a tear to me eye The CPU Arctic freezer though, wasn't dusty at all.

 

Rather in awe here. WMP 12 will play my M2TS files(BD rip), and only averages 3% cpu useage(Phenom II 965 @ 3.8Ghz). The only catch is, there's no audio LOL! So with the right audio codec, my brothers athlon 5200 might just play bd rips with ease!

 

It's being GPU rendered, your CPU isn't actually doing anything, the GTX260 is

 

So its employing cuda code? Thats great!

 

No, it's not CUDA, it's DXVA, all modern cards do it, CUDA or no CUDA. The program just has to support it.

 

Apparently I didn't notice it before, but Windows 7 employs one of Nvidia's drivers. I thought that they simply used some universal legacy driver, which is not the case. The driver appears to be 185.93. Unless everest is malfunctioning, playing the BD rip only mad the GPU increase by 1°C. VERY impressed

DXVA eh. Gonna have to read about that LOL!

 

Nah a universal driver couldn't successfully play games on a vast list of ATI, nvidia etc. graphics cards, Win7 contains old specific drivers licensed from the companies themselves I think.