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Wouldn't that only be the case in the synthetic tests...with programs optimized for 4 cores...
I know in synthetic test that can use the multiple cores...it can rip it apart...
Isn't the E8400 in Real World...normal everyday use...basically...equal to the Q9450 in performance?..

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That would be true with any quad threaded application. There are of course far more single and dual thread applications which places the E8400 at a an advantage for both, because of its going to have a higher clock speed. When a quad core attempts to use more cores than the application has threads that actually slows it down.

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Sure, why not...but what makes this not a reputable site.

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Now you know I wasn't implying that AD wasn't reputable.:D

I was speaking of test sites that have a lab and testing facilities, and are product neutral. Unfortunately they are not all equal.

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well, the Q9450 will tear up the E8400 in MIPPS due to it being a quad core and having 12M L2 cache vs 8M with the 8400 even though the clock speed is less. for what it's going in tho the E8400 or E3110 might be the better choice.

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The E8400 will win in with single and dual threaded applications but any thing with more than two threads the win will go to the quad core. Actually the E8400 and E9450 have exactly the same amount of L2 per core except where there is less than 4 threads. Even then the E8400 is probably going to have a 200 MHz advantage in speed and that's more than enough to overcome the L2 difference. These are the reasons why I haven't taken the leap to Quad core yet, but in the long run a Quad core will reign supreme because multithreaded applications are going to increase. Espcially when Nehalem hits the shelves.

shaffaaf,

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sorry for you taking it so personal, but the "haha" was a laugh at the joke, (which it was) i was not being seriuos at all. sorry if i didnt portray that well.

it ws just meant to be a joke because you like GB (which is not a bad thing at all, because if it wernt for u, not many people on AD would have a chance to use such brilliant boards.

i am very sorry if it offended you, as it was just intended as a joke nothing else

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You can say what you want, but I don't believe it!

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russ, once again sorry for adding the extra mobo, its just to ME, it seemed such a waste LOL.

but then i rectified by giving him something RICK wanted (a mobo with enough USB and SATA connections (TEN EACH) )

or was it that you were grumpy he had gone with an ASUS of Gigabyte :P HAHA

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Look at the way you wrote it! The first thing you say is sorry for adding another motherboard. If you were sorry you wouldn't have done it to begin with. You just wanted Rick's build to be an Asus! It's that simple. What is that Rick said about you being a super salesman! Then to come back and tell me "you rectified it"! Rectified what? He'd already made a good decision and then you got him to change his mind like he had made a horrible mistake. Hadn't I just told Rick that he made good choices when he let me know he'd switched? I had already told Rick that any of the 3 boards would be a good choice and given him a lower cost alternative in the DS3R. You just weren't happy with the choice he made, because it wasn't your choice, so you took it upon yourself to sneak around at the last minute, not on the thread, but privately and did your sales number on him.

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or was it that you were grumpy he had gone with an ASUS of Gigabyte :P HAHA

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You say this on the thread with no reason in the world to say it! It's an answer without a question! I was in a pretty good mood until after I read it, yet you want me to believe that it wasn't meant to be an in my face thing! How could it be anything else if it's said without justification or reason and wasn't a response to something said or done!

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im sorry sam, humour will now be a thing of the past then :)

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Humour comes with Honor and Respect always in mind There's no Humour if there's no point to be made from, and there wasn't. I didn't give any indication that I was upset about it in any way, mainly because I wasn't, so there was nothing to make a point from! You said the words without having a reason to say them, therefore I can't in any way, shape or form, accept it as a joke, as it's not the least bit funny, and the HAHA, makes it even more a slap in the face! I also don't like sneaking around, behind the back stuff. That's for stupid kids, not grown men! So grow up!

I'm done!
Russ

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@Mort
You can expect a PM...:)
No one better bid it up...}:)

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To LATE!!!! hehehee.. :P

Morty I thought you were the guy that bought from TankGuys.com but couldn't remember. ;)

@all,
I'm looking at some "inexpensive" RAM for a work computer... I don't need anything fancy or super fast just dependable. ;)

link to RAM

I'm also thinking of buying some "cheapy" DDR2 stuff to have on hand when a mobo won't play nice with some of the higher end RAM that I have... ANY suggestions from the list that I have or others are welcome too. :)

...gm

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Originally posted by Lp531:

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@Mort
You can expect a PM...:)
No one better bid it up...}:)

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To LATE!!!! hehehee.. :P

Morty I thought you were the guy that bought from TankGuys.com but couldn't remember. ;)

@all,
I'm looking at some "inexpensive" RAM for a work computer... I don't need anything fancy or super fast just dependable. ;)

link to RAM

I'm also thinking of buying some "cheapy" DDR2 stuff to have on hand when a mobo won't play nice with some of the higher end RAM that I have... ANY suggestions from the list that I have or others are welcome too. :)

...gm

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i know i said i wouldnt recomend crucial to anyone, But, after haven the ddr2 800 they sent me 16chip double sided this seems to be pretty good stuffi have had mine OC'd up to 900 and was fine and that was only at 2.1v not the 2.2v its rated at. here is a link to them and if you look at its batch/part # it is the same as the stuff they sent me in replace of the 1066.
the only reason im recommending it now is cause of the experience i have had with these and the price is awsome on them with a MIR. plus free shipping

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820146565

RedRob thanks for the recommendation. ;) I'm still "shopping" so the addition is making me head hurt even more... hehehe. :P

@ALL..... come on guys... let's play nice. :D

....gm

You all are too sensitive. Do like me, I dont think anyone other than me is worth anything, so I just dont pay attention to what they say ;)

At russ, time to be childish and just ignore you. if you dont belive me, then why should i bother with anything you have to say. thats the last time i speak to you.

back to on topic.

seeing as this is PC building ill put up pics of my build with new PSU:

well i got a new PSU (Be Quiet! Dark Power Pro 650W), so i tidied up my case. IMO i think it still looks messy.

there is nothing clean in my room, but atleast my case is haha. its the onyl thing i vacuum EVER week.

any help on hiding more cables w.o modding the case?

Oh and no i cant close the right hand panel :(

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Next time maybe you guys can take your petty BS arguements to PM instead of all the nonstop bickering off the site that no one gives two $hits about.

thread re-opened. look at the title.

ddp might as well refresh the thread also since the first post is 2005 which would be way outdated as far as PC parts etc.

started a new thread that is now stickied. this is now unstickied & closed.

edit by creaky in case any stragglers can't find it - the new thread is here - http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/683586