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Get Datecode from DV, burn with AVI to DVD as subtitle

Discussion in 'Subtitle help' started by statsman, Dec 22, 2006.

  1. statsman

    statsman Guest

    I have read most of the messages here, and have not found one that directly answers my dilema.

    I have ripped DV from camcorder. I would like to
    1. capture the datecode from the avi file
    2. turn datecode into subtitle
    3. remux avi with subtitle
    4. burn to DVD so user can choose caption or subtitle from either TV or DVD remote and turn on/off the datecode from the video.

    This would work the same way the playback on the camcorder allows you to see/hide the datecode information.

    Any ideas?

    Thanks,

    Statsman
     
  2. darkflux

    darkflux Regular member

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    what codec does the .avi file use? if it's one of your usual codecs, i don't think it encodes the datecode into the file.

    if you want to capture the datecode, try using a capture card to connect the camcorder via S-Video cables to the PC. if that's what you've been doing, then there may be an option you need to turn on in one of your camcorder's menus.
     
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    celtic_d Regular member

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    For 1/2 try: http://www.video2dv.com/index.php?lang=en&page=dvsm

    3. Not sure what the point muxing the subtitle to the avi would be. There are tools/players that can only handle external subs, but I can't think of anything that can handle muxed subs, but can't handle external ones.
    4. Also not sure about this. Not sure that any SAP's can handle DV avi's. So that would mean converting, which leads back to my point about 3. Easier to convert with external subs, especially if you are authoring a DVD video with a separate subtitle stream.
     
  4. darkflux

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    if ya wanna do the DVD subtitle thing the easy way, record one file with the timecode, the other without, and just use the other as a "second angle" ;)
     
  5. statsman

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    I guess my number 3 was incorrect. I just want to be able to burn the video, with an external subtitle, to a DVD so I can hit the subtitle button on the remote to see the date/time code.

    What are these programs that can produce/add these external subs?

    Statsman
     
  6. darkflux

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    the only thing that can "read" the dat/timecode (which is hardcoded to the videotape) is the camcorder...
    of course, if you want to add subs to the DVD project yourself, may i recommend:
    http://www.dvdsubber.com/News.asp

    seems to be one of the more popular programs for custom subs.

    unfortunately, there is no automatic way to convert the hardcoded date/time (which i'm guessing is what you were looking for), but the manual way is the next best thing.
     
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  7. statsman

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    I can get the video from the camera into the computer. I can use one of the many programs to get the date stamp into a .sub or .txt or .other file.

    It is the ability to burn the DVD with a soft caption that I am looking for.
     
  8. darkflux

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    well, if you're saying you've already GOT a .sub file, you can use the program i posted a link to to sub your DVD project. you may need this program, but it should work ok. let me know how/if it works for you...
     
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    Convert video to mpeg2, audio to ac3, subtitles to a compatible format (if they aren't already), then just author and burn.

    Easier still, I believe convertxtodvd can handle external subs.
     
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  10. Nilsjan

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    I think I got the answer,
    get VDTS from http://www.dts8888.com/download.htm,
    This program will take the timestamp from your avi file and put it visible on the screen. Pinnacle Studio 7 preserves the timestamp, so you can do this after you have done all your editing. Create one avi with the timestamp visible, and one without.
    Then, like is sugggested above, create a dvd from the two avis with two camera angles.
    (Silly, because it creates twice as much data, but it should work)
    NOW, what DVD software allows for creating two camera angles?
    I have ShowBIZ DVD and i don't think it does.
     
  11. darkflux

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    don't know of any freeware that does this. usually it's a trick reserved for the "pricier" softwares. i just use Sony DVD Architect 3. does this and a WHOLE LOT more :D
     
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    More efficient to have 1 video stream and 1 subtitle stream than 2 video streams anyway. Plenty of authoring apps that support subtitles, including freeware.
     
  13. statsman

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    Can you recommend any? The kicker is authoring the DVD with the subtitle/CC track.
     
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    DVDLab Pro supports subtitles.
    MuxMan supports subtitles.
    ReJig supports subtitles.
    DVD Author supports subtitles.
    ConvertXtoDVD supports subtitles.
     
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    download DV DATECODE here:
    http://www.skydiver.de/stef/datecode_en.htm

    run it on the AVI you want to extract the datecode from. You can import the SRT file that DV DATECODE makes, into DVDLAB PRO. VIOLA!!! done.
     
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    Seems that quite a few of the 'Pro' ($200+) DVD Authoring software can do subtitles.
    The least costly solution I found is this:
    1) Edit and create AVI with Pinnacle Studio DV10 ($99.99). It keeps the datecode in the AVI. I used to use ShowBIZ DVD but the sound volume options are too limited for me on that program.
    2) Use DV Subtitles (http://www.dvdate.ru/en/dvsubtitles.html) to create a subtitle file with the datecodes (20 Euros)
    3) Use ConvertXtoDVD to burn the DVD (http://www.vso-software.fr/products/convert_x_to_dvd/) ($39.99)
     
  17. darkflux

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    wow, i've learned quite abit myself here!
    ok, try this one...it's FREEWARE, and it takes your DV AVI and separates (or hardcodes) your datacode, into a DVD in one step:
    http://www.free-codecs.com/download/The_FilmMachine.htm
    The Film Machine 1.5.4
    all you should need is Nero, and the small list of freeware progs on that page. i don't have a DV camera (yet), so i can't try it myself, so if anyone tries it let me know, ok?
     

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