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KJM37
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12. January 2007 @ 11:37 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
guy who lives downstairs just got a warning from ISP to stop downloading movies basically, he was using emule and direct connect which I know are traceable. While I know newsgroups are untraceable, is mIRC also? Or am I better off staying clear of it?
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12. January 2007 @ 20:48 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
IRC (or, really, the FTP Fservs which are what you actually download from) aren't tracked at all, AFAIK, because they can use a variety of ports, and their traffic is indistinguishable from normal FTP.

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13. January 2007 @ 10:44 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Yes mIRC can be tracked. The MPAA/RIAA can get your IP by tracing connections made to the XDCC/Fserver you connected to. Since many XDCC/Fservers are hacked boxes anyway, its alot less likely to get caught but doesnt make it impossible.

pssst, FTP traffic isnt indistinguishable : FTP traffic especially really unusually high amounts of FTP traffic tends to set off a red flag with your ISP. Since some ISP have a limit on how much you can download per month, their watching FTP,HTTP etc traffic
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13. January 2007 @ 10:58 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
In theory anything can be tracked but the question is whether it's done or not. Relatively few people even know about IRC, let alone Fservs. And Fservs are indistinguishable from regular FTP traffic aside for (usually) using oddball port numbers. Tracking is done with automated IDS', not by people manually combing through every byte sent back and forth. Try building a Snort IDS box that can flag Fservs versus legitimate FTP: you can't. However, it's quite easy (and there are already pre-written rulesets available, some from snort.org or bleedingsnort) to flag various P2P applications.

You're right about ISPs flagging people who use too much bandwidth, but that can happen with anything, and does not indicate the traffic types and contents. You can (and are more likely to be) flagged for overusing P2P or Usenet. Note that the latter is really the way to go though.

-Do you believe you own your computer and shouldn't be told what you can run and do? Then say *NO* to Microsoft Vista!
-Since half the questions here involve media problems, here ya go: Only use Verbatim or Taiyo-Yuden discs (get your TYs from Rima.com, not Supermediastore or meritline). Forget the rest, no matter what "brand" they sell under. Always burn at 4x speed regardless of the speed rating of this discs or your drive. If you have burn problems with these then you have to update your drive's firmware. For double-layer discs, only use Verbatim DVD+R DL and burn them at 2.4x speed.

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SadJoker
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20. January 2007 @ 07:31 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Dunker, you are right - anything can be traced given the right tools. I was just saying mIRC isnt impossible to trace , just more difficult. Im no expert on security,countermeasures etc, just know what I was taught in my networking class
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