6402

Regarding Ned Kelly

I just ripped the offending VTS_01_3 with a setting of 6X the real speed was more like 4.4-4.8 until it reached 78% and then the speed dropped to 2X on its own, When it went past the 87% point and then it sped up again to around 4X but the rip was a succes and took less than three minutes which is a 3 minute improvement on my previous rip. Again I used the aggressive settings and again I can't say if it helped or not.

Sophocles...you now have me wondering what would happen if you ripped without the agressive setting?

Doc

I'll try it later and report back, I just figured since it didn't hurt it might help.

OK, I removed the agressive settings and left the rip at 6X. It went a little over 5X this time but when it got to about 76% it once again slowed to 2X and and continued to rip and then near the end the rip sped up again. I'm beging to think that a part of the VOB can only be read at 2X. When I rip a full type 9 disc I hit speeds of close to 9X and that might be a problem for it to have to suddenly wind down to 2X. If that's the case then the movie would play smoothly past offending point without revealing any flaws at all.

If that's the case then the movie would play smoothly past offending point without revealing any flaws at all.


Well, it definitely plays without any problems.

it's a good trick but I think that most people should be able to rip the movie at 4X.

Sophocles

When I use DVDdecrypter normal it slows down to .7 then starts to error then stops completely. Set manually it runs the same speed all the way no errors.

I figure the difference noticed between me, you and bigorange is the reading drives. Yours reads better overall, mine is just able to rip at 1x, and bigorange couldn't read the protected disc at all.
Which drive were you using to rip?

64026402

I'm using my Plextor PX-712A. I'd mentioned that once it failed with my dedicatied reader that I used my DVD burner because they are generally better readers.

I tried Ned Kelly last night and couldn't get it to rip either.(with Decrypter, Shrink actually showed a CRC error at the same spot while try to do the original analisys) At the VTS_01_3 (mine was at 78%) it just stopped the drive(burner for more acurate rip) and the errors just kept on coming.

michiga

Read a few post back, there're instructions on how to do it.

Yea I tried that. Didn't work. I'll try it again this weekend and just keep hitting the "try again" button. :) Did BigO ever get his to backup?

and bigorange couldn't read the protected disc at all.

6402...true, how true.lol However at the time you must remember I was the 1st one to try Ned Kelly and discover it's unusual limitations(ie, hard copy read error). I wish I had thought of a slower read(I do have the capability to read at 1x) and at the time beta anydvd wasn't out. :)

michigan, i took my copy back and exchanged it for another and guess what, it doesn't have the read error! This is the 1st time i bet anybody actually wishes they had the intentionally f**ked up disc over a good one!lol

Anyway, so now i can't test it to see if 6402...'s idea would work for me. Also I have DL'd beta anydvd and i would like to see how effective the new setting is.

However, I'm sure it's only a matter of time as I think we'll see more and more of this. As jdobbs said, it's been around in other media for quite some time. ;)

Michigan

Try to rip with your DVD burner at 2X. You can set in DVD Decrypter under device.

bigorange,

I would expect to see more creative ways to stop people from making backup copies of there movies. While this forcast is almost certain, it will only be a short-term problem until it's bypassed..

Gnomex,

Unfortunately for the man, that will always hold true in my humble opinion. lol

It's like radar detectors and radar guns, they come out with a better gun, we come out with a better detector, and on and on and on.

The wild thing is the same companies make both(thereby creating their own market), wonder if that's true in the world of DVD burning? maybe, somewhere behind the scene, in the murky depths? Who knows? ;>)

Michigan

Rip only the VTS_01_3 Vob by itself, its the one that's causing the problem. The rest you should be able to rip at full steam.

Well guys I'm going to be up late again while I watch the passing of yet another storm.

Concerning the number of storms...I'm in a state of disbelief. And I don't even live there. I suspect there are those that are beginning to wonder if Florida is going to see a series of hurricanes like this from now on.

Doc

There's a ten year prediction of worsening storms, it this isn't evidence of the greenhouse effect then I don't know what is.

I've been a believer in the greenhouse effect/global warming since around 1980. Aside from more turbulent weather, many glaciers that had thousands of years of ice pack are now melted. The signs are all around, and it's quite scary. The oceans are also warming, and it is thought that with just a few degrees rise there could be massive releases of frozen methane...which would accellerate the warming...not to mention upsetting ecological balances. The people who predict such things are scoffed at, just as they were when they said back in 1980 that in 20 years we were going to see the loss of a lot of glaciers. The last president we had that was concerned about gloabal warming, and actually put programs into place to deal with it, was Jimmy Carter. Oh well...it's Miller time.

We are also getting an inordinate amount of rain here in the PNW. It has been very dry over the last 3 years, so in some ways it is welcome, as we have a lot of hydropower that needs the water.

Doc,Sophocles

I'm figuring you guys are Democrats. I don't get to much of this kind of talk around here. Most of the people I know are big time republicans.

I'm dismayed by the lack of caring from this segment of the population.

Doc

Jimmy Carter was our last honest president and talking about the greenhouse effect wasn't popular because it costs too much money for the fix.

Donald...yeah, probably best to keep politics and religion off the forum. But...

I always vote a split ticket, though, and have leaned Republican in the past. I'm probably more democrate now, but I don't identify with either party. I tend to look for those who are concerned about the things I believe are important for people's lives and the nation as a whole. In my 30+ years of voting, I've seen both parties get out of touch with the people. Right now there seems to be a lot of that.

Soph...like the old car oil advertisment...you can pay me now, or you can pay me later. The thing is, the cost is going to be much greater later. And later is probably happening now.

Agreed, politics is far too divisive to discuss in a public forum such as this. It should be discussed in speakeasies.