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DVD burner = 2 sheep burner for CDs?

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  1. larisu

    larisu Member

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    Not sure if this is the correct forum for this, but anyway.

    Are any DVD burners 2 sheep CD-R burners as well? I was just wondering since it seems like the clone cd site is no longer updated. Thanks!
     
  2. Shoey

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    Well I'm glad you ask m8. The Plextor PX-708A is confirmed to backup Safedisc 2.9.x. I haven't seen any hardware reviews from CD-Freaks or CDR-Info on the latest LiteOn or Asus 8x dvd burners. Newegg has reasonable pricing for the Plextor PX-708A dvd-rom.

    Shoey :)

     
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  3. larisu

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    Cool thanks for answering. Know of any other DVD burners that can also back up the newest CD protections? Thanks!
     
  4. Praetor

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    For burning protected CDs, the Plexy is the choice.... of course for burning DVDs, Pioneer is the way to go. Then of course, why would you buy a DVD burner just to do CDs? You are prolly better of buying an ASUS 522452A (cdburner) and a Pioneer -something- instead of the Plexy here. Dont get me wrong, the Plexy is nice but it seems kinda pointless to buy a DVD burner if the main requirement is that it can burn CDs. :p
     
  5. Shoey

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    How did you come to this conclusion m8? The "elite" cd burner for backing up cd protection is the Plextor Premium (52\32\52x) and so far the Plextor PX-708A is the only "qualified" 2 sheep burner until further testing with LiteOn and Asus dvd-drives. My opinion about Pioneer dvd drives for backing up pc\audio protection= sucks. Pioneer dvd drives are no match against Plextor dvd drives. [/b]

    Shoey :)

     
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  6. Praetor

    Praetor Moderator Staff Member

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    Yes you are right. But DVD burners are primarily for DVD burning. Not CD burning. Spending the extra money to get a device that can do CD burning really well - when its primary task is to burn DVDs is somewhat a waste of money.

    If you want a DVD burner... get a DVD burner. If you want a CD burner get a CD burner. Specialization. It works.
     
  7. larisu

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    [bold]If you want a DVD burner... get a DVD burner. If you want a CD burner get a CD burner. Specialization. It works.[/bold]

    Praetor, the reason I'm asking is because I already have a CD burner, and it's 1 sheep. If I'm going to get another optical drive (not another CD burner, that's a waste of money), then I'd want one that can burn both DVDs AND CDs w/ 2 sheep ability.

    Of course, if it really came down to it and there aren't any good quality DVD/2 sheep CD burners, then I'd forgo the 2 sheep burn ability and just go for the highest quality DVD burner that I could get. But I want to see if I could get a decent burner that can do both, first.
     
  8. Shoey

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    Plextor PX-708A hardware review (conclusion) at CD-Freaks
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    Fastest DVD recorder on the planet with 8x (!) DVD+R, 4x DVD+RW, 4x DVD-R, 2x DVD-RW, 40x CD-R and 24x CD-RW recording speeds!
    Excellent software package
    Two year warranty with on-site collect & return service (Europe, Norway and Switzerland)
    Supports 'BURN-Proof' technology
    Supports 'PoweRec' and 'VariRec' technology
    Excellent CD and DAE read speeds
    Excellent DVD read speeds
    Excellent performance with copy-protected data
    Good performance with copy-protected audio
    Supports overburning up to 99 minutes and can read 'GigaRec' discs
    Supports Mount Rainier (CD-MRW/DVD+MRW) format
    Supports DAO-RAW writing
    Supports reading and writing of 8cm discs
    Supports reading and writing of CD-Text information
    Supports reading and writing of full SubChannel Data
    Could back-up all SafeDisc 2 versions without weak sectors amplification [/i]
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    Supports 'PoweRec' and 'VariRec' technology <--- Simply awesome as no other drive on the market can do this.[/b] The PowerRec is for overburning and the VariRec is a "write" method designed for backing up SecuROM 4.8.3& up. In short, this write method eliminates the creation of a "install" disc for the backup of the SecuROM 4.8.3& up protected cd.

    http://www.cdfreaks.com/article/121/7

    Shoey :)

     
  9. larisu

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    I guess that works for me. Sounds like a good drive; I currently have a Plextor 40/12/40a and it's been good to me, so I'm inclined to believe that Plextor drives are among the very best.

    Now that I have some idea of where to look and what to look for, I'll try doing some research on my own also.

    Thanks, Shoey!
     
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    Ahhh so that's why :) Still though (i dont know prices since I havnt bought a drive in awhile), wouldnt it be cheaper to get something like an ASUS52252 and a PioneerA04/A05? Dunno, just a shot.
     
  11. Shoey

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    It's absolutly pointless to own a "2 sheep" dvd-burner and a cd burner. I agree if one owned a "1 sheep dvd burner" to search out a "2 sheep" burner". Counts sheep....(Zzzzzzzz)

    Shoey :)
     
  12. Shoey

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    larisu,
    Check out these 3 LiteOn dvd drives as both are confirmed to backup Safedisc 2.9.x but no "VariRec" technology for backing up SecuROM 4.8.3& up. These LiteOn dvd drives can easliy backup SecuROM 4.8.3& up, one needs to create an additional "install disc". The prices on these 3 drives are less than the Plextor PX-708A dvd-rom.


    LiteOn LDW-411S(4x\dual)
    LiteOn LDW401S (4x)
    LiteOn LDW-811S (8x\dual)

    http://www.cdrinfo.com/Sections/Art...leHeadline=LiteOn+LDW-401S+DVD+R/+RW&index=11

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    Shoey :)
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  13. larisu

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    Thanks for the suggestions, guys. I think I'll stick with the Plextor, though. Even though it costs twice as much, it seems to be the better investment overall. I'm sure Plextor's firmware updates will continue to perfect their drive, just as it has for my current CD burner.
     
  14. Shoey

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    Can't go wrong with a purchase of the Plextor PX-708A for sure. About the only negative side for the Plextor PX-708A is the dvd rip speed but a LiteOn LTD 163\165\166 dvd-rom is the solution. Hopefully Plexy engineers will fix this with future firmware updates. I'll admit as far as just backing up pc\audio cd protection, these LiteOn dvd drives will give Plexy a run for the money because they are much cheaper in price!

    Shoey :)
     
  15. nowiser

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    But for someone who has a need to back up their PS1 games, is the Plextor 708A pretty good at reading/writing subchannels? I've got a lot of old PS1 games that I want to preserve, but my old Mitsumi 4804te can't seem to hack it. libcrypt protection has me coastering so many cdrs that I'd be better off buying backups online. I read and write at 1x on my old Mitsumi 4804te, but it doesn't seem to be able to handle libcrypt at all.

     
  16. Praetor

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    Yes I would imagine so :) Most decent modern burners are.
     

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