When is it worth the wait?

Hello,
To cut a long story short I am about to backup my 200+ DVD collection.

My problem however is my eyesight isn't that great, so when I was testing various encoders etc it was hard for me to tell the difference, but when my friends come over I don't want them to complain.

From reading I see CCE is the best but my question is basically, is it it worth the time to use CCE if the compression is say above 80%?, 90%?
Also what if I'm copying my Simpsons DVD's, they don't have much details so should shrink be ok or still use CCE?

If you could share some thoughts and ideas it would be appreciated.
I have 2 TV's both 42inch+, one plasma, one LCD if that helps.

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Shrink 80% + Sharp


CCE 80% + 3 Pass


CCE 50% + 3 Pass


Shrink 50% + Sharp

 

If you edit out the extras and the special features, most movies out have almost no compression to them, roughly 85-100% range from my experience mostly with kids movies. Try a few different programs and have some 20 year olds look at them and see if they notice. From my observations, the first effect to show up is in large areas of the same color, you may see square blocks in the area, specifically in the darker colors. Hope that this helps. I can't tell the difference on my 32 inch TV, but you have the bomb when it comes to video,,,

 

I agree that DVD-RB works best for full disc backups or Lord of the Rings length main movies.
For me, my cutoff point is like blivetNC said. Use shrink or Recode from 85-100% with quality settings on. I change to DVD-RB for the rest.

 

Thanks for the help everyone.

So for a general rule if it below 80%-85% I should use CCE.

What about my Simpson's and Family Guy DVD's, do you think they can go lower because there isn't much detail in the picture?

Do you think it will be easier for me too see the difference if I burn them on to DVD and try watching them on my TV?
So far I've only compared on the computer, full screen (23inch widescreen lcd).

 

Definitely give it a real world, worst case scenario test. Copy an entire disk, one whose compression is like 45%, then compare it with just the movie, and then compare it with the original, let your eyes be the deciding factor.

 

To all who may know---Isnt there a general rule about not using CCE for cartoons and other discs with low bitrates? I know its something along those lines, and was about to give information saying use Procoder or Hanks with DVD-RB for those cartoons of gambit01. Could someone correct me/ clarify that general rule please? TIA

 

Never used CCE, but highly recommend Slysoft's ANYDVD and Elby's CloneDVD2 for everything, only takes 35 minutes to process and entire disk, even one with high compression.

 

Thanks Creaky.
gambit01---I wasnt totally off target Let us all know if you have questions or problems.

 

Im going to go with blivetNC on this one, I used to use DVD Shrink when it came out and the quality it rips that at isnt all that great, and then i stumbled accross a guy who did a comparison on DVD transcoders, and
InterVideo DVDCopy5 came out #1 in quality
CloneDVD2 came out #2 or #3

and Shrink was below #7


And with CloneDVD2 you have more hands on the dvd. you can cut/snip sutff you dont want, but with Shrink your only left with Either movie only or Movie with extra. Dont take my word for it downlaod the Trail/Demo of CloneDVD2 and give it a try youll love what it does.

 

I have a 36 inch TV, and i have never seen any difference between RB/encoder and shrink, recode2,dvd2one and intervideo; even at high levels of compression.