To answer the question...NO!

Of course no one in the general population cares.

The article is about the HTSA folks. It's an elite group of custom HT installers and A/V dealers that cater to the rich and ultra rich. Their customers live in multi million dollar homes and have home theater setups that run into the tens to hundreds of thousands. Just look at the list of manufacturers thay have : Arcam, Lexicon, Musical Fidelity, Runco, McIntosh etc.

Definitely not for the faint of heart.

So does J6P care?

Most likely not - because he has never heard of the HTSA and will likely never use their services in his lifetime.

And if HD-DVD makers start offering the profit margin Sony does, it'll switch in a New York minute.

This cycle of a step for Blu-Ray this week, a step for HD DVD next week is driving me insane.

I am really waiting for something to just push the rest of the nails in both formats coffins. There by giving consumers one clear format winner and full High-Definition video at the same time.

Oh well, its gonna be quite a while (I would say at least five years) before something replaces DVD.

Peace

i used to care but,its not the formats that will win themselves.thats only part of the reason.promotions will win this battle.unofrtunately i think that i probably will not give a shit for a long time :P ps i dont even watch blu-ray movies on my ps3 bcuz hd is expensive

This is so ridiculous but utterly indicative of how pathetically desperate to spin any possible 'news' in Blu-ray's favour.

Check out the detail of what story is based on.

62 HT installers.

62 HT installers (that hardly anyone amongst the general buying public uses anyways) gave an opinion.
Wow, that must settle it, huh? *rolls eyes & ROFLMAO*

Whoopey-do.

They really will attempt to clutch at any straw, it's kind of tragic in a totally laughable way.

My email to HTSA

First of all, you guys are bunch of morons. I liked how you made your gay decision for blu-ray. What gets me is that quote about how you carry both formats but most people are buying blu-ray products. But last time I checked your web site, Toshiba was nowhere to be found. So how much of the HD DVD products are you really carrying? Or is your decision strictly because of the price of the products, seeing how you keep more pricier products, and maybe, the "attractive" name Blu-Ray excites your president more? BTW, Integra is also releasing a higher end HD DVD player. Are you going to stop selling Integra products? Hmm
Pass the words along to your co-workers and good luck selling the blu-ray products. By the way, how much did Sony pay? Just curious. Thanks

Jack

and they replied back to me....LOL

Jack, Your persuasive and kind words have made me feel warm and fuzzy all over. Your friend forever, Richard (Dick)

Sub £100. HD player for the win.
They should price the titles the same as DVD to get consumers to buy with the thought of getting more quality for the money.This could also increase the amount of titles sold overall.
They are going to have to take BIGGER RISKS to increase the userbase fast or a better format will replace both lagging HD disk formats.

Good to see the endorsements rolling in this is good for the people on the high end area who want to spend the highest dollar value for the best products & not stuck with cheap inferior hardware...

Nah I don't care either. I will wait until the dust settles. My only question would be how long is this going to take before a clear winner is determined?

Why on earth anyone would shell out mega-bucks for players and a format that isn't even finished yet is the question.

Talk about people with more money than sense.

Originally posted by hughjars:

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Why on earth anyone would shell out mega-bucks for players and a format that isn't even finished yet is the question.

Talk about people with more money than sense.

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That is the idiotic FANBOYS of either format that mostly do that. They are the ones with no sense.

Most people don't even CARE about high definition....and probably won't for a long while until the prices come down.

Originally posted by webe123:

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That is the idiotic FANBOYS of either format that mostly do that. They are the ones with no sense.

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- Not when HD DVD is a complete spec at reasonable and falling prices.

This 'a plague on both your houses' approach is amusing but it is just obscuring the fact that the initial comments were about how a bit of publicity from 68 HT installers was siezed upon by the Blu-ray fanclub as being significant to the mainstream market when it isn't - and could hardly be further from that.

It's also avoiding the point that it is Blu-ray is offering over-priced & obsolescent incomplete spec'd players.

Originally posted by hughjars:

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It's also avoiding the point that it is Blu-ray is offering over-priced & obsolescent incomplete spec'd players.

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A point that is moot to the HTSA's clientele. These are people who can afford to upgrade every few months. These people probably spend more on their home theater than what regular folk spend on their house and car combined.

I don't care too.Hope both formats sunken in deep waters forever.

What a load of hog wash.

Yes HD DVD is cheaper right now (See you get what you pay for) But try to find something to record HD Movies that come from a HD video camera and the only thing on the market is Blue ray, In order for me to save memories in HD, Blue ray is the way, it is the only way because you cant record on a HD DVD yet (Internal computer drive).Besides that Blue ray has a higher bit-rate than HD DVD thus allowing more detailed info. Is there any HD DVD games out there yet? NO, there isn't. I guess Blue ray wins again, except for a 180.00 USB X-box drive they are about the same price (if you add x-box+ HD DVD drive ..no savings), no record-ability, no games,I guess that would make Blue ray an early winner. (As if the market ever really paid attention to logic). IMO Blue ray wins, But I do own both, to cover my ars..............Just my 2 cents worth. Alphabit

Blu-Ray is the best because Sony is better than everybody else.
I am not a fanboy because it is the truth and you know it.
BELIEVE!

My gran could have your dad too...

My friend and I have been pitching thoughts back and forth. (HD DVD AND BLUE-RAY) Then another friend of mine showed me a DVD that was HD on one side and a normal DVD format on the other. I was telling my first friend that (both formats would be the best way to reach sales markets) no one is just going to dump the DVD movies they have now. Since we had just changed from VHS.
Then the new DVD players came out with up conversion to almost HD DVD so that they can be played on the HiDef TV's everyone is pitching. My point is this the company that put both formats hit a home run!! It allows the little guy ME to buy new dvd's that has both and it wasn't anymore higher in price. Good thinking guy! now when i do buy that HD DVD player later on I won't have to get rid of the movies I am buying.

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Besides that Blue ray has a higher bit-rate than HD DVD thus allowing more detailed info

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Do you just think this stuff up. Blue-ray has not to date produced any better picture than HD-DVD. Even sony will admit to that. Look at screenshots of both formats in the avs forums. As for HD-DVD lacking burnable media and drives I agree fully. I think HD-DVD really needs to get the ball rolling in that aspect. I think we've gone to far now for either format to win.

Perhaps some of you who do not believe there is a difference between HD-DVD and Blu-Ray should find a store who demos both formats along side each other. I have compared them side by side in Circuit City, Best Buy and the Navy Exchange. In each location the quality of picture of the Blu-ray played on the same brand and model HDTV was far superior to the HD-DVD format. When the time comes that the furor settles and the format is finally determined, The prices will fall and I will then buy the my player.

Originally posted by ronlin819:

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Perhaps some of you who do not believe there is a difference between HD-DVD and Blu-Ray should find a store who demos both formats along side each other.

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- You'd be lucky.

The same movie on the same kit but one is the BD version & one the HD DVD version?!

Where does this happen cos I have not heard of any of the stores doing a proper side-by-side demo, anywhere.

Originally posted by ronlin819:

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I have compared them side by side in Circuit City, Best Buy and the Navy Exchange.

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- Please say where and when & perhaps some of our US members nearby can verify this story......cos from speaking to many people in the US about this I just don't believe you.

All the stories I'm hearing are about how Blu-ray has bought large displays, none of which are side-by-side demos.
They wouldn't dare.

Originally posted by ronlin819:

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In each location the quality of picture of the Blu-ray played on the same brand and model HDTV was far superior to the HD-DVD format.

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- .....and I know too many dual format owners who say there is little or no difference to believe that one either.
There are not that many movies out in both formats that are idential to give a sure comparison but I've heard from plenty of dual owners, some prefer one and some the other but almost all say there is very little in it.

HD DVD has the clear advantage of cost and content, that IMO will see it win out in the end.

The stores in which,I saw these demos were located in Ft. Worth and Amarillo, TX. The demos were strictly demo disks using the same content comparing STD to HD-DVD and STD to Blu-ray DVD. They were not production movies.

I cannot verify whether the demos are still being provided, however I would think they should be.