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how long top copy / burn in Dvd fab Platinum/ HOW CAN I SPEED UP

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#1
I HAVE AN ATHLON 64 PC . HOWEVER IT TAKES WELL OVER AN HOUR TO BACKUP A DVD ? i ADDED 512 MORE RAM GIVING ME 1 GB TOTAL RAM AND STILL ONLY MARGINAL INCREASE IN SPEED . HOW ELSE CAN I SPEED IT UP ?? I HAVE A FRIEND WITH A ATHLON 64 DUAL CORE WITH 2 GB RAM AND IT COPYS / BURNS AND ALL IN LIKE 15 MINUTES !!MIONES LIKE 1HR AND A HALF .. AND NOT ANY FASTER ON OTHER APPS. ? IVE CHECKED DEVICE MANAGER FOR MY DVD DRIVE AND DMA IS ENABLED ??? BUT WHY UNDER IDE/ATAPI CONTROLLERS DO I HAVE 3 PRIMARY IDE CHANNELS AND 3 SECONDARY ???? ANYWAY ANY INPUT IS WELCOMED ??? BY THE WAY IT USED TO BE MUCH ..MUCHH FASTER ?? EVERYTHING ELSE WORKS FINE ??
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#2
Hi, next time post in caps and lower case, all caps appear that you are shouting to us.

1) try disc defrag on HDD
2)use antivirus and trojan remover on HDD
3) I have a 2.4G P4 and it takes a s about what u say it does to backup
4) My dual core does it inn what u say your friends does it in

"The flimsier the product,the higher the price"
Ferengi 82nd rule of aqusition


#3
plus ALL caps are hard to read so dump them please,I would uninstall the IDE controllers anyway and reboot and see if it works, follow this guide

http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/260038
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#4
Ive removed and reinstalles my primary and secondary Ide channels and my dvd drive , Still about the same ??Like I said I used to do a complete dvd in around 1/2 hour or less ???? ive also run defrag and virus scan . all ok... I even cleaned my dvd drive .. hmmmmmmmm
#5
check and make sure you're burn speed isn't set to low 8x is fine




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#6
On my Dvd drive properties the recording speed is set to FASTEST ? I have other options from 1x - 40X . should i try something else ?
#7
actually I did one today and it took over 2 hours to complete everything !!
#8
Originally posted by realrock:
actually I did one today and it took over 2 hours to complete everything !!
How full is your HDD (in %) ?

BTW ZosoIV, howya doing bro, Merry Christmas!

"The flimsier the product,the higher the price"
Ferengi 82nd rule of aqusition


#9
Quote:
BTW ZosoIV, howya doing bro, Merry Christmas!
doing great ,thanks Merry Christmas to you also

realrock, can you try a different drive in your PC ,something isn't right, no way it should take over 20 to 30 mins.have you cleaned you machine latley? disc cleanup drfragging etc.
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#10
My HDD is 58% full , and yes I try to keep it clean, Ive defragged it a couple days ago and run cleanup , spyware , virus // all of that . I only have one Drive in my PC though. would an expansion drive work ???? like a usb ??? And the thing that puzzles me is other Programs like Sonor a multi track recording program that uses and xfers tons of data runs great! ????????? back when it was fast the pc was brand new and had little data on the HDD. Should I have 3 Primary and 3 secondary IDE channels ? just wondering ?
#11
but.. if i remember correctly in Device manager I have "DMA if available" selected on ALL of the channels and " auto detection .BUT.. "current transfer mode " says "not applicable" ????????
#12
well , I fixed my slow prob , Funny thing ... initially I checked my DMA and it was enabled on all channels .. reinstalled my Primary and secondary channels .. no improvement .. after re checking them I found then that one of my secondary channels was on PIO mode.. Zfunny though before my reinstalling the channels it looked normal.. anyway now it smokes again.. 15 minutes or so for the whole thing ! thanks guys.
#13
great glad its fixed sure sounded like a PIO problem and it was!




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#14
hi zoso, and a happy new year to you also. it doesn't take me long to back up, and burn a dvd w/dvdfab platinum, but i noticed that no matter what i set the write speed to it won't reach it all the way. my burner's a sammy sata sh-s203b. never seen this when taking my file set to imgburn and burning there. is the burn engine in dvdfab platinum not calculating the correct speed? also does this have anything to do w/how large you set the output size in the dvd-5 setting? right now it's at 4472, it was at 4300. it's also set to packet writing on the write type setting. don't have a clue what that is, or if sao would show, or make things better. thnx.
#15
dr_ml422, the burn speed will vary from program to program a bit. I've noticed that also using different burning engines so its typical. Most programs don't reach max speed or they may for a min or two then slow down. So its theres not a problem with dvdfab platinum,. The size of the output file wouldn't matter either. I'm not sure what the packet writing is either lol.

a few things you can do to keep you're burn speed constant is don't multi task while burning and keep you're machine clean using ccleaner etc. doing a disc cleanup and defragging often (at least once a week) on a note about the burn speed, since you have a sata drive i wouldn't burn above 12x max. I use sata optical drives and burn at 8x max. Hope this helps you out
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#16
thnx zoso. i figured it had nothing to do w/my pc, or burner. i also burn at 8x. just once tried at 12x to see what would happen. if you find out anything about the packet writing, or sao, plse let me know. i'm pretty sure some others could benefit from the info as well.

i started lol myself when i read your reply. some of these proggies have so much features, and i guess lil time 4 myself, and maybe others to learn all the goodies they have to offer. i surrendered last week, and snatched platinum. i got tired of using 3 apps. to do a backup.
#17
Can't believe nobody's asked this before what bloody programs are you guys using?

If your burning at the highest quality settings, and it's a full-length feature film then backing up can take up to an hour or an hour and a half. Hell an hours around the norm for me, I used Nero Recode 2+AnyDVD at the highest settings and with my decent specs I average around an hour.

Be patient, 15-20 minutes to back up an entire DVD is still quite rare, and usually only applies to those with Quadcores and such. It also could mean people aren't taking the care or time to back up their movies at decent quality settings and are burning at unnecessarily high speeds, it's not a race people...



#18
amir 15 to 20 minutes is the norm, especially w/a 1 click tool like dvdfab platinum. i don't have a quad-core. i just have a dell e310, 80gb hd, w/a pent4. my burners are the lg that came w/my dell, and the sata samsung sh-s203b. you're either too full on your hd w/out too much storage, or some of your proggies are resource hogs, like nero. try unloading as much stuff as you can, and do a good clean up + defrag. at 8x burning w/a dvd-r 16x that's about all it should take is about 20 minutes. go here, http://forum.digital-digest.com/. there's a power user thread, and also a free up system resources thread that'll tune up your pc and make it more suitable 4 video work. of course you also have to check out how many proggies you have on your comp, and the space they're taking up, along w/how much stuff you have stored as well.
#19
I find that DVDFab Platinum's burning engine, which is VSO, will give you slower burn times. Try changing the burning engine to Nero, if you have it, in the settings of DVDFab. Nero will burn at a truer speed than the VSO burning engine.


#20
in dvdfab it takes about 20 minutes to rip the "Movie Only" and another 15 minutes to burn the movie onto a blank dvd r. (Depending on movie size)
I have dvdfab set on "Slowest" for burn speed. It shows a burn speed of between 4X to 5X during the burn.
I have a HP 20X dvd burner but i try to keep the burn speed down to around 4X.
#21
Rustbucket 4x burning speed- Good Man! I like the way u burn (I burn at 4x also)

Remember only good media as Taiyo Yudens or Verbs from MIJ if possible.

"The flimsier the product,the higher the price"
Ferengi 82nd rule of aqusition


#22
@rustbucket

20 min. 4 ripping only? dvdfab platinum rips, and burns my dvds in about 20 min. flat @ 8x. yes the vso is slower, but i'm thinking it might b showing slower speeds than the actual set speed. this i'm not sure about, but the 20 min. i am. i do have my pc set 4 burning. most behind the scenes apps. are disabled as other ones not needed period. also just use the proggies that consume the least space. dvdfab platinum, shrink, and imgburn.
#23
Originally posted by dr_ml422:
@rustbucket

20 min. 4 ripping only? dvdfab platinum rips, and burns my dvds in about 20 min. flat @ 8x....

Yeah, 20 minutes or so. Rip speed is faster than the burn speed the way i have it setup. (if i could slow down the rip to about 4X i'd do it.) Rip speed goes at between 6X to almost 8X on some discs.
I could reset my speeds and make it faster but why? I don't want it to burn faster than that.
iluvendo knows what i'm talking about.. I'm not an expert but i've always believed in the slower the burn the less chance for errors-skips.
#24
your set up is great. i was trying to give amir more to go w/as he's definitely taking way too long to back up, and burn. rule of thumb has always been 1/2 the speed of your blank media, and 4x, as well as 8x is usually the recommended course of action. slower is better.
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