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PS3 will win console war say researchers
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article published on 19 August, 2006
Research firm The Yankee Group believe that Sony's highly anticipated Playstation 3 console will hold off stiff competition from Microsoft & Nintendo to dominate the battle of the consoles once more. In a press release this week, it stated it believes that, "Microsoft is off to a fast start, launching the Xbox 360 nearly 12 months before the PlayStation 3. However, by the time third-generation ... [ read the full article ]
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23. August 2006 @ 04:34 |
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your post above mine pretty sums the consoles up really (IMO), the only reason i would ever consider getting a 360 would be if Halo 3 is insanely awesome and even then getting a system for one game isnt really worth it. The Wii definitly has all the clasics though and i know quite a few people who have these as top priority (including me).
"This is how it works. Whatever you sink, we build back up. Whomever you sue, ten new pirates are recruited. Wherever you go, we are already ahead of you. You are the past and the forgotten, we are the internet and the future."-Brokep
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23. August 2006 @ 04:45 |
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Halo 3 better be like a magic wand..... really.It's always been overated yet fun as hell.They better live up to the hype lol I'm freakin serious.I looked at xbox 1 as a console with no good exclusive titles other than halo.So far that's what I've seen from x360.
Me too as stated, I grew up on nintendo so I love their exclusives.I will get one for sure.It's also kinda cool that you can download the old classics from the new virtual console feature.I want mario cart on wii asap hehehe..... always loved droppin that big azz banana.....
I will end up with all of em lol.
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DJfist
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23. August 2006 @ 04:47 |
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Oh for god's sake! You said PC games haven't exceeded 7 GB because that's all a DVD will hold. I'm simply saying that if a PC game truly required more than 7 GB they would just put it on multiple DVD's. Remember when DVD drives weren't standard? Didn't PC games ship with as many as 6 CD-roms? They still do in some cases. Did PC games stop growing in size because the media format at the time (CD-ROM) was maxed out? No, it did not. They simply shipped with multiple discs and that's exactly what they will do now if they need to. DVDs are cheap as all hell. It won't drive the cost up that much. AND Zippy, I agree that bluray has potential for the future. That's not the issue. I'm just trying to convince this guy that the game in question, Resistance:Fall of man, by no means needs 22 GB to run. Look at the pics and watch the videos. It's not even that impressive. Looks like a souped up PS2 game. I realize that the article says it does and blah blah, but I don't believe everything I read and you guys shouldn't either.
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23. August 2006 @ 04:57 |
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Your missing the point DJfist because your only trying to prove something.
Andrew did correct me but it doesn't change the point.My point was developers and publishers are cheap.Bluray is expensive and forces these devs to create games on 25gb discs which means devs will want to fill them because they are not going to spend the money to only put 5gb on the damn thing.
Now that dvd's have come down in price the publishers can afford to put them on dvd's but back then 6 cd's were cheaper than one dvd(well sorta not really)and not everyone had a dvd drive.The whole point was the hdd reads what was installed from the disc which is 8.5gb max for dual layer which is why you don't see them higher and rarely over a single 4.7 gb disc for that matter.
when hd-dvd/bluray media and drives get big on the pc then the games will get huge just like what happened when dvd drives took over cd's drives.
****edit everyone on here including you have made some mistakes from time to time.For that I'm sorry.Doesn't change anything though.
This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 23. August 2006 @ 05:07
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23. August 2006 @ 05:08 |
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DJfist
Ah! thank you for clearfing your "reason" sorry if I went a bit hard on you,much ike me you dout thats a good thing :P
but try and blance your psots a bit more,I try dont always get it right,but if you dont care people to mistake you as a fanboy do want ya want ^^
tycobb
I think hes tryign to prove he has a mouth *L*
Mmmmm I dotn know once the next gen DVD format gets a standard sure I can see 10+ MB games but untill then not alot..I mean look at prey and Q4 1.5GB installed ,Q4 is more 2-3GB,I dont kow what oblivion is I would think with the contrustion kit it gets near 6GB.
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23. August 2006 @ 05:12 |
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damn its getting late, have to read each post like 4 times for it to make any sense, but yea it mostly all comes down to production costs. Why bother making a game that only just over 4.5gb and putting on a DVD9 when they can just compress it more or lower somethings quality to fit a DVD5 saving them money?
"This is how it works. Whatever you sink, we build back up. Whomever you sue, ten new pirates are recruited. Wherever you go, we are already ahead of you. You are the past and the forgotten, we are the internet and the future."-Brokep
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23. August 2006 @ 05:14 |
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I personally am not impressed with any of these new generation systems. Let me tell you why. A new generation console system should be a big step up from the last system that was out. For example the ATARI then came the NINTENDO which was a big jump!! You went from stick figure characters to well rounded color graphics like Super Mario Bros. You could never play a Super Mario Bros game on the Atari to be anywhere near compared to the Nintendo Version. However, with this Xbox 360, you could play the exact same games on the Xbox or PS2. It just has a little sharper images..WOW!! not really a big jump there to make me wanna go out and spend all this money when I can play the same games on the PS2 practically for free with all these mods. Just my opinion.
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23. August 2006 @ 05:18 |
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thats why we've been refering to it as the xbox 1.5, its more of a halfway system thats more of an upgrade than a next gen console. The Wii even though its not really nextgen either, will have lots more goin for it than the 360.
"This is how it works. Whatever you sink, we build back up. Whomever you sue, ten new pirates are recruited. Wherever you go, we are already ahead of you. You are the past and the forgotten, we are the internet and the future."-Brokep
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23. August 2006 @ 05:28 |
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@andrew You might be tired, but you got the point lol.
With bluray they are forced to spend the money already which is why the discs will be filled with goodness(which bluray are $20-$25 per disc).
@dsmooth I agree so far I'm not impressed with 360.I have chrome hounds and another game that looks worse then xbox 1 frankly.Although I also have cod2 and graw which show descent but not incredible visual boosts.
I hope ps3 can do better....
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23. August 2006 @ 05:28 |
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I guess that's true. I'll just have to wait and see. I guess Im just waiting for real life human graphics with 3-D objects jumping out at me before I say WOW!!! This is next GENERATION!!
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23. August 2006 @ 05:31 |
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the has some potinal stil but MS is not inerested in "potinal" the 360 is dead to me,mainly becssue of the lack of foresight for ful BWC if it had full BWC then it would be alot more intresting to me..but as its stands now its a crippled Xbox upgrade that will msot likely be "reaplaced" in 2-4 years 0-o
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23. August 2006 @ 05:37 |
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I thought the BWC was actually getting updates through live for more games to work, anyone know where theres a list of supported BWC games?, would find it interesting to see which games they've bothered to support.
"This is how it works. Whatever you sink, we build back up. Whomever you sue, ten new pirates are recruited. Wherever you go, we are already ahead of you. You are the past and the forgotten, we are the internet and the future."-Brokep
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23. August 2006 @ 05:39 |
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23. August 2006 @ 05:41 |
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I have about 75 xbox games but only about 10 are supported:(
I found this list helpful when I first got my 360 but now I realize my games will probably never be supported by the bwc.
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23. August 2006 @ 05:49 |
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geez theres actualy quite a few games there, to bad i havent heard of half of them. woah only 10 out of 75 that really bites, dunno why microsft couldnt have waited like another month to actually test the 360 before releasing it maybe then it wouldnt have had such a bad launch.
"This is how it works. Whatever you sink, we build back up. Whomever you sue, ten new pirates are recruited. Wherever you go, we are already ahead of you. You are the past and the forgotten, we are the internet and the future."-Brokep
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23. August 2006 @ 06:11 |
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@andrew LOL tell me about it.I thought they were all backwards compatible when I purchased the system.The thing is my 75 were mostly good games but alot of the games on the list are crappy games that I nor anyone else bought!
I only have 4 360 games so far(only 2 were any good) but I guess I could always get some free demos from live....:(
I'm pressed for cash after $400 for the system, $100 for the wifi adapter,$50 for 1 year of xbox live, then about $240 for 4 games($60 a pop).
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23. August 2006 @ 07:34 |
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@Andrew
True. It would have also left Microsoft some time to launch it without the overheating and hardware failure problems that still plauge the console today(I've seen it with my own eyes last month).
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23. August 2006 @ 16:16 |
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Damn right!!! PS3 will rule because of Final Fantasy XXX.....(that's final fantasy 30!!!! not porn....you sick perverts.)
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24. August 2006 @ 02:57 |
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The only reason the PS3 has as much popularity as it does and fan base is because the PS1 and PS2 whre the most popular of their generate and so have loads of people who dont have a clue about the other systems proclaiming PS3 is the best because they read it in some PlayStation "propaganda" magazine. (seriously they sound like its coming from Sony themselves its like "PS3 has this, this and this. More powerful than all the others, which obviously means its gonna have the best games ever!" its really sad that they can't accept competition. Also probably at the end of this generate i dare say PS3 might have sold the most, when its come down in price so much even i will buy one
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24. August 2006 @ 03:07 |
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yea thats about right, but all sytems have huge hype with the developers spraying crap in every direction, granted Sony has been known to this more than its competition but the end result is generally still good.
Offtopic: looks like microsoft are giving away FREE domain names and webhosting http://www.officelive.com
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24. August 2006 @ 17:27 |
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PS3
the PS3 has the potinal to to bring console gameing to match PC gameing if not go beyond it at least in trems of "avarage" non rich Gameing rigs go.
Wii
has enough potinal in its innvoation to keep things intresting.
360
I cant realy find anythign to like about the systm,as it stands now its bearly a "next gen" system on the other hand there hasnt been alot of games to use every bit of its hardware so it can blossom from being 3 feet in the round but I just dont see it doing much,its bascily like the 32X only rich gamers and MS die hards will love it.
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24. August 2006 @ 19:51 |
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Hopefuly Sony focus on getting the bluray player working good, ive seen Dell and Sony Vaio laptops have had a huge battery recall. The batterys in these where made by sony so on top of finilizing the console there busy recalling batterys and trying to find the fault that caused the probs. http://www.engadget.com/2006/08/23/sony-gets-theirs-flaming-vaio-brings-the-firefighters/
After 16 versions of ps2 being released only the last v13-v16 have actually had stable lasers, that IMO is really stupid of Sony, 16 revisions and only just getting rid of the problem, that was found in luanch consoles.
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24. August 2006 @ 21:46 |
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Just to go back to the Blu-ray issue.. the games are going to work out at 5-7gb..the rest is going to be empty sectors and duff checksummed data to attempt to stop us backing up the disks.
I don't even care which one wins.. It isn't important.. If you like the games buy one. Personally I'd rather buy a gun and shoot sad people who think that discussions about "which toy will sell more" are a relevant waste of server space on a tech forum...Me... I can't wait to get a master system..they are supposed to be the dogs!!
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25. August 2006 @ 09:57 |
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to tycobb: Wtf happened to the models looking like real humans?
bungie said something about this when halo 2 lanched something known as the gulf of realism, probably still on bungie.net the more realist they made the models the more freakish they became,even the human models. can't really remember all of it but thats why halo 2 was more cartoony than halo 1
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25. August 2006 @ 12:04 |
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Oh....what the heck?.....Where are the flying cars? Aren't we in the 21st Century? I was told in the early 90's that we would have flying cars in real life by now...but I don't see any.........
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