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#126
13 Jul 2008 @ 15:47
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Lol, I live in Florida so I assume everyone has one. My bad.
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#127
13 Jul 2008 @ 16:33
mrk44
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No, I have one...it's just that it takes a lot of energy and our bill runs high...I'm in California so....
But now I set it to about 76F so it's a little lower, but not too much...is that still hot?
I put the fan up to 1200 rpm and my temp dropped to about 48-50C...I ran the FEAR test thing once: went up to 96 fps avg, 366 max...
Ran it again: went all the way down to 35 avg....
It's like my card doesn't cool down after it heats up, even with the fan running high...It doesn't make sense...
In COD2 though, I'm having constant RPM's in the high hundreds (I know I shouldn't compare FEAR with COD2, but just letting you know...).
But now I set it to about 76F so it's a little lower, but not too much...is that still hot?
I put the fan up to 1200 rpm and my temp dropped to about 48-50C...I ran the FEAR test thing once: went up to 96 fps avg, 366 max...
Ran it again: went all the way down to 35 avg....
It's like my card doesn't cool down after it heats up, even with the fan running high...It doesn't make sense...
In COD2 though, I'm having constant RPM's in the high hundreds (I know I shouldn't compare FEAR with COD2, but just letting you know...).
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#128
13 Jul 2008 @ 16:35
Just so you know, 1200rpm for a graphics fan is very low. The maximum speed of most graphics fans is 5000rpm, and even the HD3870 whose fan is notorious for not running fast enough runs between 800 and 1500rpm.
The 8800GTS puts out as much heat as two overclocked dual core processors, so running an 80mm fan at 1200rpm, see the problem? :P
The 8800GTS puts out as much heat as two overclocked dual core processors, so running an 80mm fan at 1200rpm, see the problem? :P
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#129
13 Jul 2008 @ 17:54
mrk44
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Wait, then I'm probably not doing it right...
For increasing the fan speed, do I click customize and then the pic of the graphics card?? That's the only thing I see that can adjust the fan speed, and even in that it says "low-level fan control" that only goes up to 1650 rpm (it gets REALLY loud)...
For increasing the fan speed, do I click customize and then the pic of the graphics card?? That's the only thing I see that can adjust the fan speed, and even in that it says "low-level fan control" that only goes up to 1650 rpm (it gets REALLY loud)...
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#130
13 Jul 2008 @ 19:44
You might just be having heat issues then... I don't know. My 8800GTS sounds like a hairdryer at startup but it goes down to whisper-quiet when the drivers load. I just let it run on its own. Mine idles at 50-55*C and loads at 80-85*C. As far as I know, these are normal operating temps and in line with a stock nVidia card. I never get graphical slowdown or bad performance. The fan is quiet on desktop and revs up to a slightly noticeable *whir* sound in games.
Somehow, "nVidia prototype" rings an alarm for me. Where did you get the card and what makes it an nvidia prototype? Maybe it has a crap fan controller being a prototype?
Somehow, "nVidia prototype" rings an alarm for me. Where did you get the card and what makes it an nvidia prototype? Maybe it has a crap fan controller being a prototype?
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#131
13 Jul 2008 @ 20:29
mrk44
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Well I have a cousin that's a lead designer at nvidia, and the designer of the 8800GTS is in the office next to his. He went and asked him for a prototype, and he gave it to me....
I don't know if that has anything to do with it, but I'll ask...
Mine also sounds like a hairdryer at startup and goes down to whisper quiet later....but it idles at 58-60C for some reason.
I don't know if that has anything to do with it, but I'll ask...
Mine also sounds like a hairdryer at startup and goes down to whisper quiet later....but it idles at 58-60C for some reason.
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#132
13 Jul 2008 @ 20:49
That's pretty warm. Is your case ventilated properly? Wires tucked out of the way so as not to impede airflow?
I don't know if you have the experience for this, but is the cooler making proper contact with the card? Is the TIM sloppy or dried up? Maybe it needs to be cleaned up and re-applied. I recommend Arctic Silver 5 or Arctic Silver Ceramique(my personal fave as it is non-conductive).
Maybe an aftermarket cooler would see an improvement?
I don't know if you have the experience for this, but is the cooler making proper contact with the card? Is the TIM sloppy or dried up? Maybe it needs to be cleaned up and re-applied. I recommend Arctic Silver 5 or Arctic Silver Ceramique(my personal fave as it is non-conductive).
Maybe an aftermarket cooler would see an improvement?
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#133
13 Jul 2008 @ 20:57
Estuansis, what is your room temp? MK's temps will always be a bit higher because his room temp is kinda high. That might be the reason.
#134
13 Jul 2008 @ 22:28
That's true. Ambient temps do have a big impact on PC temps. I'm not really sure what my room temp is. We hardly ever use air conditioning and I don't exactly keep a thermometer right by my desk. I'm in the basement and it stays fairly nice down here year-round. My feet are cold right now if that helps at all, lol.
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#135
13 Jul 2008 @ 22:57
mrk44
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Yeah, I don't know about what sammorris said about the fan having a 5000 rpm being the highest in a fan, but the highest I can get it in rivatuner is 1650, which is really loud so I lowered down to about 1140 rpm, which keeps a nice idle temp of about 50 (still loud though).
And what exactly are your guys' room temps anyway? Because I'm sweating like hell....there's somewhat of a heatwave in LA right now....
And what exactly are your guys' room temps anyway? Because I'm sweating like hell....there's somewhat of a heatwave in LA right now....
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#136
13 Jul 2008 @ 23:15
I've been getting unrealistic temps ever since I built my first PC. I guess my room is just that cold. My X2 4400+ OC'd to 2.6GHz saw 26*C idle 42*C load with an AC Freezer 64 Pro. My E6750 OC'd to 3.4GHz has seen 35*C idle 55*C load with my AC Freezer 7 Pro. The Tuniq Tower could beat that with 32*C idle 50*C load.
Mind you all these temps are in the winter. In the summer they are about 3 degrees higher.
I love the winter. It's like having a mid-range liquid cooling setup :P
Mind you all these temps are in the winter. In the summer they are about 3 degrees higher.
I love the winter. It's like having a mid-range liquid cooling setup :P
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#137
13 Jul 2008 @ 23:27
mrk44
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Originally posted by Estuansis:Only?! Wow, you're either rich, or you live somewhere that has very low energy costs because from what you're saying, your room is REALLY cold. My room right now is probably at maybe 77F-79F? And it's nighttime right now, and we have the AC on...I guess I don't know how to use that thing the right way...
In the summer they are about 3 degrees higher.
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#138
13 Jul 2008 @ 23:39
Nope. We hardly ever use AC. My room is in the basement and I'm on a cement floor(the room is finished but the carpeting was ratty). Cold air sinks and warm air rises. It's cold down here year round. I was born in Wisconsin so the cold doesn't bother me, lol.
And are we rich? ...LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!
And are we rich? ...LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!
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#139
14 Jul 2008 @ 1:25
mrk44
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Then I guess you're not rich! lol. I wish I had a basement...
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#140
14 Jul 2008 @ 6:33
No 80mm fan is loud at 1650rpm, and no graphics fan would max out at 1650rpm either. I think the RPM readings are bull, personally.
Mrk: You didn't see the post Estuansis made a little while back, I'll let him tell you about that if he so chooses.
Mrk: You didn't see the post Estuansis made a little while back, I'll let him tell you about that if he so chooses.
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#141
14 Jul 2008 @ 7:11
My room temp right now is 72F. The AC is of right now because it's morning. But I live in Florida, so I will have to turn it on soon.
Maybe you should invest in Solar cells lol.
Maybe you should invest in Solar cells lol.
#142
14 Jul 2008 @ 8:09
shaffaaf
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ok R700 PREVIEW results, (EXTREMELY EARLY DRIVERS/BIOS, AND ITS AN ENGINEERING SAMPLE)
sorry for shouting, just wanted to emphasise that:
seems do be doing brillaintly, but that GRID reuslts is weired to say the least with sli/xfire.
sorry for shouting, just wanted to emphasise that:
seems do be doing brillaintly, but that GRID reuslts is weired to say the least with sli/xfire.
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#143
14 Jul 2008 @ 8:15
GRiD doesn't officially support dual graphics of any kind, HD3870 crossfire doesn't work with it, and never has, so dual graphics results will always be a bit sketchy with it.
That performance result is absolutely immense with the 4870X2, if it's true that is. Beating the GTX280 SLI combination is certainly an impressive achievement.
I'm primarily interested in the Age of Conan result, as with those settings I get about 5fps with my HD3870 - did they say where they tested? That game is incredibly variable in performance between areas...
The 4870X2's TDP is ugly though, about 260W I'd guess from those tests, that's going to be a pain to cool...
That performance result is absolutely immense with the 4870X2, if it's true that is. Beating the GTX280 SLI combination is certainly an impressive achievement.
I'm primarily interested in the Age of Conan result, as with those settings I get about 5fps with my HD3870 - did they say where they tested? That game is incredibly variable in performance between areas...
The 4870X2's TDP is ugly though, about 260W I'd guess from those tests, that's going to be a pain to cool...
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#144
14 Jul 2008 @ 8:21
shaffaaf
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you still got crossfire? or did you RMA the broken board?
if so i have heard in alot of fourms, that replacing the name of grid.exe to fear.exe makes xfire work.
if so i have heard in alot of fourms, that replacing the name of grid.exe to fear.exe makes xfire work.
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#145
14 Jul 2008 @ 8:23
You can't do that with the retail game because then Starforce blacklists the exe as a 'modification'. Perhaps you can do it with the cracked or Steam copy.
As I said, I sold the broken card on ebay.
As I said, I sold the broken card on ebay.
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#146
14 Jul 2008 @ 12:13
I hope to see further improvements with 4870X2 performance as new drivers are released. I'd choose Steam over Starforce any day. Easily the lesser of two evils seeing as Steam is usually working 100% of the time :P
Stardock/starforce owe me a new DVD-RW :(
@mrk44, I'm not going into specifics, but my family is relatively poor. I buy all my own PC hardware.
Stardock/starforce owe me a new DVD-RW :(
@mrk44, I'm not going into specifics, but my family is relatively poor. I buy all my own PC hardware.
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#147
14 Jul 2008 @ 12:17
Agreed, Steam is certainly a far preferable way to own the game, even if it is usually significantly more expensive (Call of Duty 4 was £24 in shops, £42 on Steam)
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#148
14 Jul 2008 @ 12:20
I like Steam because it never requires a disk. That makes my life a bit easier as I usually get cracked exe's for all my games. I hate using disks.
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#149
14 Jul 2008 @ 12:25
Indeed - so much so there's no DVD drive in my PC any more... hasn't been for months.
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#150
14 Jul 2008 @ 15:47
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Hey fellas. ;)
I didn't think that I would come here but here I am.. lol.
I have a PNY 8800GTS 320MB gpu and I'm wanting to make sure it's running within parameters. I just upped the fan speed to %75 so that has helped a bit but NOT to the extent I thought it would. It seems the Mobo temps and GPU temps are a bit high.. I need to do a heatsink mod but I'm gonna wait for a bit.. I wanna see what's going on with the Striker Extreme.. I may have to order another mobo... NO jumping to conclusions. :P
link to Everest for temps
The PNY 8800 is installed on a Gigabyte P35-DS3P and it ran very cool before the installation of the 8800.. I'm just unaccustomed to the 8800 video card so I may be a little paranoid for now about the temps. :P I'm gonna do the "heat sink" mod sooner than later but I wanted to get some "other" expert advice on possibility of other avenues for 'modding' the gpu for now.. tia..
.....gm
I didn't think that I would come here but here I am.. lol.
I have a PNY 8800GTS 320MB gpu and I'm wanting to make sure it's running within parameters. I just upped the fan speed to %75 so that has helped a bit but NOT to the extent I thought it would. It seems the Mobo temps and GPU temps are a bit high.. I need to do a heatsink mod but I'm gonna wait for a bit.. I wanna see what's going on with the Striker Extreme.. I may have to order another mobo... NO jumping to conclusions. :P
link to Everest for temps
The PNY 8800 is installed on a Gigabyte P35-DS3P and it ran very cool before the installation of the 8800.. I'm just unaccustomed to the 8800 video card so I may be a little paranoid for now about the temps. :P I'm gonna do the "heat sink" mod sooner than later but I wanted to get some "other" expert advice on possibility of other avenues for 'modding' the gpu for now.. tia..
.....gm
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