The New AMD Building Thread [page 60/70]

sammorris

Visit user's personal page Send private message to this user

AfterDawn Addict 4 product reviews

Once again, Tom's Hardware not impressing me with their review methods. I tend to disregard cache as an absolute measure of speed and just gaze at some equivalancy benchmarks - that should say enough about what the cache does - otherwise the temptation is to go "look, it's faster AND has more cache!" when it could be faster BECAUSE of the cache, nothing more.
The 620 and 630 really aren't bad CPUs at all, I'm not sure where anyone said they were...

Afterdawn Addict // Silent PC enthusiast // PC Build advisor // LANGamer Alias:Ratmanscoop
http://www.scan.co.uk http://www.ebuyer.com http://www.newegg.com http://www.ncixus.com
My systems: http://my.afterdawn.com/sammorris/blog_entry.cfm/2255 - Last updated 13Feb10

cincyrob

Visit user's personal page Send private message to this user

AfterDawn Addict 4 product reviews

ok guys heres what my buddy here at work has decide to go with for his AMD build next month.

mobo
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128377

cpu
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103674

mem
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231193

he has everything else.nice case. the coolermaster Sniper, but i do question his cooler. he has the coolermaster V8 cooler will it mount up with the AM3 chip? or does he need a different bracket?

You might be a RedNeck if, Your soap on a rope doubles as an air freshener.

sammorris

Visit user's personal page Send private message to this user

AfterDawn Addict 4 product reviews

if he's buying a V8 cooler, he may as well just get the 945 and overclock it, that will serve him better.

Afterdawn Addict // Silent PC enthusiast // PC Build advisor // LANGamer Alias:Ratmanscoop
http://www.scan.co.uk http://www.ebuyer.com http://www.newegg.com http://www.ncixus.com
My systems: http://my.afterdawn.com/sammorris/blog_entry.cfm/2255 - Last updated 13Feb10

cincyrob

Visit user's personal page Send private message to this user

AfterDawn Addict 4 product reviews

THATS just it he allready has the V8 on his phenom 3 now.doesnt have to buy it

You might be a RedNeck if, Your soap on a rope doubles as an air freshener.

sammorris

Visit user's personal page Send private message to this user

AfterDawn Addict 4 product reviews

I don't understand - you asked if the cooler would fit and then say he already has it installed?

Afterdawn Addict // Silent PC enthusiast // PC Build advisor // LANGamer Alias:Ratmanscoop
http://www.scan.co.uk http://www.ebuyer.com http://www.newegg.com http://www.ncixus.com
My systems: http://my.afterdawn.com/sammorris/blog_entry.cfm/2255 - Last updated 13Feb10

cincyrob

Visit user's personal page Send private message to this user

AfterDawn Addict 4 product reviews

he has it now on his current build a phenom 9850/9750 not sure which it is. and is going to use it with the AM3 955 i was just asking if it would fit ok.

the only thing new that he is buying is the mobo,cpu,and mem. he is useing his other parts,hdd,case,hsf ect...

You might be a RedNeck if, Your soap on a rope doubles as an air freshener.

theonejrs

Visit user's personal page Send private message to this user

AfterDawn Addict

Originally posted by cincyrob:
he has it now on his current build a phenom 9850/9750 not sure which it is. and is going to use it with the AM3 955 i was just asking if it would fit ok.

the only thing new that he is buying is the mobo,cpu,and mem. he is useing his other parts,hdd,case,hsf ect...

Rob,
According to Cooler Master, it fits AM3 and the Phenom II x4!

Russ

GigaByte MA790X-UD4P MB w/Athlon IIx4 630 OCd to 3.51GHz - Arctic Freezer 64 Pro CPU Cooler - 4 GB Corsair Dominator DDR2/8500 at 5-5-5-15 @1000 MHz - Cooler Master Centurion 534+ Case - Cooler Master 500 watt PSU - Seagate 160GB SATA 3.0 - Hitachi 250GB SATA 3.0 - WD Black 500GB - Optiarc AD7220 20x DVD-Burner - 1 Optiarc AD7240 DVD-Burner - Sceptre X20 Naga III 20.1" Digital LCD "Widescreen" - Sony 425 Watt Digital Audio Control Center 5.1 PL-II Suround,And a little "Alien Expertise"! ...
"With Your Arms around the Future and Your Back up against The Past" The Moody Blues

sammorris

Visit user's personal page Send private message to this user

AfterDawn Addict 4 product reviews

The AM3 socket is the same as Am2 for mounting as far as I can see. It should fit fine, but do at least consider my comment regarding the 945. I doubt he'll be disappointed :)

Afterdawn Addict // Silent PC enthusiast // PC Build advisor // LANGamer Alias:Ratmanscoop
http://www.scan.co.uk http://www.ebuyer.com http://www.newegg.com http://www.ncixus.com
My systems: http://my.afterdawn.com/sammorris/blog_entry.cfm/2255 - Last updated 13Feb10

theonejrs

Visit user's personal page Send private message to this user

AfterDawn Addict

Some more reviews of the new 3 and 4 core AMDs

Ananctech Reviews of the Athlon IIx4 620 and 630
http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx?i=3638&p=2

InsideHW Reviews of the Athlon IIx3 and x4
http://www.insidehw.com/Reviews/CPU/AMD-...lon-II-630.html

Anandtech again Review of Athlon IIx3 435
http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx?i=3663

More from HardwareSecrets
http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/843

Phenom IIx3 435 from NeoSeeker
http://www.neoseeker.com/Articles/Hardware/Reviews/aii_435/

Enjoy,
Russ

GigaByte MA790X-UD4P MB w/Athlon IIx4 630 OCd to 3.51GHz - Arctic Freezer 64 Pro CPU Cooler - 4 GB Corsair Dominator DDR2/8500 at 5-5-5-15 @1000 MHz - Cooler Master Centurion 534+ Case - Cooler Master 500 watt PSU - Seagate 160GB SATA 3.0 - Hitachi 250GB SATA 3.0 - WD Black 500GB - Optiarc AD7220 20x DVD-Burner - 1 Optiarc AD7240 DVD-Burner - Sceptre X20 Naga III 20.1" Digital LCD "Widescreen" - Sony 425 Watt Digital Audio Control Center 5.1 PL-II Suround,And a little "Alien Expertise"! ...
"With Your Arms around the Future and Your Back up against The Past" The Moody Blues

sammorris

Visit user's personal page Send private message to this user

AfterDawn Addict 4 product reviews

I think the X4 630 is priced about right really. It's a little behind the Q8200, and costs a little less, with the bigger difference being the price.
The X3 435 is also priced well as the only chips it has serious competition from are the higher-end Core 2 Duos, which don't start until a price point £10 above it.

Afterdawn Addict // Silent PC enthusiast // PC Build advisor // LANGamer Alias:Ratmanscoop
http://www.scan.co.uk http://www.ebuyer.com http://www.newegg.com http://www.ncixus.com
My systems: http://my.afterdawn.com/sammorris/blog_entry.cfm/2255 - Last updated 13Feb10

theonejrs

Visit user's personal page Send private message to this user

AfterDawn Addict

Originally posted by sammorris:
I think the X4 630 is priced about right really. It's a little behind the Q8200, and costs a little less, with the bigger difference being the price.
The X3 435 is also priced well as the only chips it has serious competition from are the higher-end Core 2 Duos, which don't start until a price point £10 above it.

Sam,
After all the reading and some discussion with my friends, I'm going to stick with the x4 630 as my choice. As you pointed out, it should pretty much double the performance of the Athlon x2 7750, and should be a lot more efficient!

Best Regards,
Russ

GigaByte MA790X-UD4P MB w/Athlon IIx4 630 OCd to 3.51GHz - Arctic Freezer 64 Pro CPU Cooler - 4 GB Corsair Dominator DDR2/8500 at 5-5-5-15 @1000 MHz - Cooler Master Centurion 534+ Case - Cooler Master 500 watt PSU - Seagate 160GB SATA 3.0 - Hitachi 250GB SATA 3.0 - WD Black 500GB - Optiarc AD7220 20x DVD-Burner - 1 Optiarc AD7240 DVD-Burner - Sceptre X20 Naga III 20.1" Digital LCD "Widescreen" - Sony 425 Watt Digital Audio Control Center 5.1 PL-II Suround,And a little "Alien Expertise"! ...
"With Your Arms around the Future and Your Back up against The Past" The Moody Blues

sammorris

Visit user's personal page Send private message to this user

AfterDawn Addict 4 product reviews

I should say. You get the same TDP but for about 90% faster per core, twice as many cores, and twice as much overclocking potential!

Afterdawn Addict // Silent PC enthusiast // PC Build advisor // LANGamer Alias:Ratmanscoop
http://www.scan.co.uk http://www.ebuyer.com http://www.newegg.com http://www.ncixus.com
My systems: http://my.afterdawn.com/sammorris/blog_entry.cfm/2255 - Last updated 13Feb10

theonejrs

Visit user's personal page Send private message to this user

AfterDawn Addict

Originally posted by sammorris:
I should say. You get the same TDP but for about 90% faster per core, twice as many cores, and twice as much overclocking potential!

Sam,
All right, you've convinced me! LOL!!

Russ

GigaByte MA790X-UD4P MB w/Athlon IIx4 630 OCd to 3.51GHz - Arctic Freezer 64 Pro CPU Cooler - 4 GB Corsair Dominator DDR2/8500 at 5-5-5-15 @1000 MHz - Cooler Master Centurion 534+ Case - Cooler Master 500 watt PSU - Seagate 160GB SATA 3.0 - Hitachi 250GB SATA 3.0 - WD Black 500GB - Optiarc AD7220 20x DVD-Burner - 1 Optiarc AD7240 DVD-Burner - Sceptre X20 Naga III 20.1" Digital LCD "Widescreen" - Sony 425 Watt Digital Audio Control Center 5.1 PL-II Suround,And a little "Alien Expertise"! ...
"With Your Arms around the Future and Your Back up against The Past" The Moody Blues

theonejrs

Visit user's personal page Send private message to this user

AfterDawn Addict

Looks like I'm going to be a busy guy over the next week or two. Lots of changes coming. Oxi is being sold, minus the PSU, Freezer 64 and the HDD for $150. I'm installing the buyers PSU, HDD & CPU cooler in it and it's done. I've got another identical eMachines case and I bought a Foxconn MB to install in it, along with my Athlon x2 7750. Russell's PSU, Freezer 64 and HDD are going into it and then I'll put an Athlon II x4 630 in mine. Selling Oxi financed all the upgrades, so cost was my time! Not too bad! I'm going to repair the original ECS motherboard by replacing the 5 blown caps in the power circuit and install it in the case I got as part of the original deal, plop a 3800+ Athlon in it and sell it as well. Should be a fun and profitable 2 weeks! LOL!!

Russ

GigaByte MA790X-UD4P MB w/Athlon IIx4 630 OCd to 3.51GHz - Arctic Freezer 64 Pro CPU Cooler - 4 GB Corsair Dominator DDR2/8500 at 5-5-5-15 @1000 MHz - Cooler Master Centurion 534+ Case - Cooler Master 500 watt PSU - Seagate 160GB SATA 3.0 - Hitachi 250GB SATA 3.0 - WD Black 500GB - Optiarc AD7220 20x DVD-Burner - 1 Optiarc AD7240 DVD-Burner - Sceptre X20 Naga III 20.1" Digital LCD "Widescreen" - Sony 425 Watt Digital Audio Control Center 5.1 PL-II Suround,And a little "Alien Expertise"! ...
"With Your Arms around the Future and Your Back up against The Past" The Moody Blues

omegaman7

Visit user's personal page Send private message to this user

AfterDawn Addict 6 product reviews

Originally posted by theonejrs:
Should be a fun and profitable 2 weeks! LOL!!

Russ

Well...im jealous :P One day, One day and I'll be building others machines and making a slight profit, and saving people money at the same time :)

Mobo Gigabyte 790XTA-UD4 CPU Phenom II 965BE C3 step @ (...) RAM Ripjaws F3-12800CL7D-4GBRM @ 8/8/8/24 1600Mhz 1.6V Cpu Cooler Tuniq 120 tower BD Ripper iHES108-29
Music is Vital to the soul AND mind

theonejrs

Visit user's personal page Send private message to this user

AfterDawn Addict

Originally posted by omegaman7:

Originally posted by theonejrs:
Should be a fun and profitable 2 weeks! LOL!!

Russ

Well...im jealous :P One day, One day and I'll be building others machines and making a slight profit, and saving people money at the same time :)

Oman7,
I figure that if I can keep what I have upgraded and still make money doing it, while keeping my customers happy, I'm still way ahead of the game! LOL!!

Russ

GigaByte MA790X-UD4P MB w/Athlon IIx4 630 OCd to 3.51GHz - Arctic Freezer 64 Pro CPU Cooler - 4 GB Corsair Dominator DDR2/8500 at 5-5-5-15 @1000 MHz - Cooler Master Centurion 534+ Case - Cooler Master 500 watt PSU - Seagate 160GB SATA 3.0 - Hitachi 250GB SATA 3.0 - WD Black 500GB - Optiarc AD7220 20x DVD-Burner - 1 Optiarc AD7240 DVD-Burner - Sceptre X20 Naga III 20.1" Digital LCD "Widescreen" - Sony 425 Watt Digital Audio Control Center 5.1 PL-II Suround,And a little "Alien Expertise"! ...
"With Your Arms around the Future and Your Back up against The Past" The Moody Blues

sammorris

Visit user's personal page Send private message to this user

AfterDawn Addict 4 product reviews

Heh, not sure I'd have the heart to sell something with an ECS board in it, even if I did replace the caps - what would go wrong next?

Afterdawn Addict // Silent PC enthusiast // PC Build advisor // LANGamer Alias:Ratmanscoop
http://www.scan.co.uk http://www.ebuyer.com http://www.newegg.com http://www.ncixus.com
My systems: http://my.afterdawn.com/sammorris/blog_entry.cfm/2255 - Last updated 13Feb10

Estuansis

Visit user's personal page Send private message to this user

AfterDawn Addict 15 product reviews

Having worked in an electronics repair shop, I'll tell you now that selling cheap crap is not unheard of. Already had to resolve some bullcrap the day after I started because my boss replaced a blown Apevia PSU with a 620 watt KinWin or WolfPower or some random generic brand. The guys brings it back and we basically had to lie and tell him he got the wrong unit. Promptly set him up with an Antec Earthwatts 380W and he was a happy camper.

Also mind that I quit working there after a month due to that exact reason. Boss basically told me to use the cheapest parts possible and then make up fake bench hours to milk the customer for money. I couldn't do it.

This message has been edited since its posting. Latest edit was made on 25 Oct 2009 @ 10:05

AMD Phenom II 940 BE @ 3.7GHz 18.5 x 200MHz 1.45v 2200MHz NB w/ Tuniq Tower 120(lapped), DFI LanParty DK 790FX-M2RS, 2 x 2GB Mushkin XP Ascent PC2 6400 @ DDR2 800 CL 4-4-4-12 w/ 2.1v, 2 x Sapphire HD4870 512MB Crossfire @ (750/1800), Creative X-Fi Xtreme Music, 2 x Seagate Barracuda 500GB 32MB Cache SATA, Cooler Master HAF 932 Case, Corsair 620HX PSU, Dell UltraSharp 2407WFP 1920 x 1200 LCD Monitor
My Other Systems: http://my.afterdawn.com/estuansis/ Computers are sexual.

sammorris

Visit user's personal page Send private message to this user

AfterDawn Addict 4 product reviews

Do you remember the documentary on TV where they sent a PC round to a dozen or so repair shops, where they'd deliberately unplugged the IDE cable from the HDD from an otherwise working PC?
One of the stores wanted $400 or so for replacing the motherboard and the hard drive...

Afterdawn Addict // Silent PC enthusiast // PC Build advisor // LANGamer Alias:Ratmanscoop
http://www.scan.co.uk http://www.ebuyer.com http://www.newegg.com http://www.ncixus.com
My systems: http://my.afterdawn.com/sammorris/blog_entry.cfm/2255 - Last updated 13Feb10

keith1993

Visit user's personal page Send private message to this user

Member

I remember the watchdog episode where they disconnected the graphics card and a call-out business put epically crap second hand components in the old case, Overcharged the people for a brand new set of components of the same spec as the old one and then sold the 'broken' components on Ebay as new but out of box...

This message has been edited since its posting. Latest edit was made on 25 Oct 2009 @ 10:42

I could put something funny here but I cant be arsed. Now GO AWAY!

Estuansis

Visit user's personal page Send private message to this user

AfterDawn Addict 15 product reviews

Wow never saw it. Is there a copy on P2P or another way to watch it? It sounds very interesting. Do you remember the name of the program? Did any shops actually do the job right?

This is one of the main reasons I got into PC building to begin with. I wanted a gaming PC and I didn't want to pay someone's entire paycheck to get one :P

EDIT:

Wow now Keith is in on it. Is this a UK program? Anyone with a TV tuner feel like sending me a clip via Rapidshare? Better yet is there a youtube clip on it?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8DsAwt8vf6Q

Is this along the same lines? Seems to be the like one Keith mentioned if not the same one...

This message has been edited since its posting. Latest edit was made on 25 Oct 2009 @ 11:30

AMD Phenom II 940 BE @ 3.7GHz 18.5 x 200MHz 1.45v 2200MHz NB w/ Tuniq Tower 120(lapped), DFI LanParty DK 790FX-M2RS, 2 x 2GB Mushkin XP Ascent PC2 6400 @ DDR2 800 CL 4-4-4-12 w/ 2.1v, 2 x Sapphire HD4870 512MB Crossfire @ (750/1800), Creative X-Fi Xtreme Music, 2 x Seagate Barracuda 500GB 32MB Cache SATA, Cooler Master HAF 932 Case, Corsair 620HX PSU, Dell UltraSharp 2407WFP 1920 x 1200 LCD Monitor
My Other Systems: http://my.afterdawn.com/estuansis/ Computers are sexual.

sammorris

Visit user's personal page Send private message to this user

AfterDawn Addict 4 product reviews

Watchdog is a UK program.

Afterdawn Addict // Silent PC enthusiast // PC Build advisor // LANGamer Alias:Ratmanscoop
http://www.scan.co.uk http://www.ebuyer.com http://www.newegg.com http://www.ncixus.com
My systems: http://my.afterdawn.com/sammorris/blog_entry.cfm/2255 - Last updated 13Feb10

keith1993

Visit user's personal page Send private message to this user

Member

Actually I do remember seeing that. Although I must have got it mixed up with something else at the same time.... - the youtube clip that is.

This message has been edited since its posting. Latest edit was made on 25 Oct 2009 @ 13:43

I could put something funny here but I cant be arsed. Now GO AWAY!

omegaman7

Visit user's personal page Send private message to this user

AfterDawn Addict 6 product reviews

Originally posted by Estuansis:

Also mind that I quit working there after a month due to that exact reason. Boss basically told me to use the cheapest parts possible and then make up fake bench hours to milk the customer for money. I couldn't do it.

Wow. I couldn't do that either. I mean I understand the business standpoint, but that's just wrong! I made an oath to myself after the last time taking my computer to the shop. They charged too much for a simple job. It WON'T happen again LOL! Auto parts stores in my area have the right idea. Good-better-best. I generally go for better, for all my automotive needs. My computer is another story ;)

Mobo Gigabyte 790XTA-UD4 CPU Phenom II 965BE C3 step @ (...) RAM Ripjaws F3-12800CL7D-4GBRM @ 8/8/8/24 1600Mhz 1.6V Cpu Cooler Tuniq 120 tower BD Ripper iHES108-29
Music is Vital to the soul AND mind

keith1993

Visit user's personal page Send private message to this user

Member

I know someone who basically takes the PCs, servers, etc. companies don't want and 'recycles' them. Lets just say he has a pretty impressive home network and isn't helping the polar bears much.

I could put something funny here but I cant be arsed. Now GO AWAY!