Looking for a new Desktop computer..

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  1. shwaggy

    shwaggy Member

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    Ok so I was looking to buy a new desktop since mine is really old and all I use now is my laptop. I have about 1900 dollars saved up and was thinking about getting this desktop/monitor and was wondering how well would they work together.

    Computer-
    http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=2156277&body=QA#tabs

    Monitor-
    http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3187754&body=REVIEWS#tabs

    Also I would like to hear any other Ideas you guys have for a good desktop for around the same price range.

    I want the computer to be really fast and let me run photoshop quickly and be able to run movies smoothly dont need great graphics I do console gaming not computer gaming..
     
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  2. abuzar1

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    I don't know about the monitor but that computer sucks ass for a grand. Hell you could build a GAMING PC(means you could have a great computer AND be able to spend money on a great graphics card) for less.

    I don't know about the monitor, I'm still using a CRT lol.

    If you're willing to build your own PC you can DO much better for that kind of money.
     
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    Newegg doesn't work for me for some reason. But I saw the parts you listed. Pretty good except I would go with the GA-P35-DS3R, an HD 3870, and maybe not the Antec 900? Also the 520HX is overpriced, only because it's modular. You can get a 550VX for about 75. As for the RAM go with some Crucial Ballistix PC-8500 RAM. VERY good for overclocking.

    I'm sure it would still come in under a grand after rebates.
     
  5. shwaggy

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    Well the only problem with this is the only thing I have ever done is replace ram or video cards before.. I don't know if I would have the knowhow to build the computer from scratch? Do you suggest I try it? How much work are we talking here? Whats the best pre-assembled thing you can find if I decide I cant do it myself?

    Also I am wondering whats better buying a bigger hard drive for inside the computer or just getting like 250gb and buying a external harddrive later because I would like to have at least 500gb in total for storage..Would that make the computer slower?
     
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  6. sammorris

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    External hard drives are slow. They won't slow the PC down generaly, but opening files or running programs off it will be slower than an internal drive. I'd recommend using TWO internal hard drives. keep one for the OS and critical applications (Office etc.) and the other for games, multimedia etc. That way, if you ever need to reinstall windows, you don't need to lose any data, even if you have to reformat.
    I'd agree with Abuzar on the parts, use the list krj posted, but get an HD3870 instead, and maybe a slightly more interesting case.
     
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  8. dos1986

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    If you dont want to build then something like below is fine for $729,its quad core,2gb ram,perfect for photoshop etc....

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883113042


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    Processor Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600(2.4GHz)  
    Processor Main Features 64 bit Quad-Core Processor  
    Cache Per Processor 2 x 4MB  
    Memory 2GB DDR2 667  
    Hard Drive 400GB SATA 7200rpm  
    Optical Drive 1 18X DVD±R/RW Multi-Format Dual Layer Optical Drive  
    Graphics Intel GMA X3000, Up to 256MB shared video memory  
    Audio 8-Channel (7.1) High Definition Audio  
    Ethernet Integrated Intel 10/100/1000 Ethernet LAN  
    Speaker Amplified Stereo Speakers (USB Powered)  
    Keyboard Elite multimedia keyboard  
    Mouse USB Optical 2-Button Wheel Mouse  
    Operating System Windows Vista Home Premium  
    Special Features Intel Viiv Technology  
    
    
    Add a HD2400pro silent for $45 and your set

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102100
     
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  9. shwaggy

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    If I build my own computer I have to buy and intsall windows right?
     
  10. dos1986

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    Yes and install the drivers....

    Its not hard,it probably wont boot the first time lol,but its well worth it....

    Just make your schedule free for 3 or 4 hours :D
     
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    Just obviously be advised that as long as you buy proper stuff, you will get a far better quality PC if you build it yourself. Mainstream manufacturers like Gateway use cheap, low quality parts.
     
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    Ok so you pretty much convinced me I am going to build my own computer. I have been looking at cool cases and wonder how to pick the right one.. I mean I can choose which one that looks the best but what am I looking for like lots of room? Does it need certain things other than that?
     
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    Awesome, thanks for the information. That is my favorite case on newegg also. I think I shall get it.
     
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    The Armor case is a huge size, so obviously make sure you have room for it / want a PC that size. However, due to that fact it cools quite well, and isn't exceptionally noisy. Just bear in mind they're incredibly heavy compared to normal PC cases like this one
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811146038&Tpk=lexa+blackline
    The Armor weighs around 3-4x as much as the Lexa Blackline. Of course, if you're not a LAN gamer, it probably doesn't matter how much the thing weighs, but I thought I'd point that out.
     
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    To give you an estimate on how much it weighs. My computer with all the parts in it weings in at about 45 pounds.
     
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    And my PC weighs about 27-28 pounds or so...
     
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    I dont mind it being bigger or heavier because I really wont need to move it much. Thanks for the information though!

    Ok I have put something together from your ideas thats a-bit over my budget but not much. Something I can swing and wanted to hear your ideas and to see if it would all work together(Compatibility wise)

    Monitor-
    http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3187754&body=MAIN

    Computer-

    psu
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139004&Tpk=550VX

    cpu
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115029

    MB
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128048

    Hard Drive
    2x http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822144171

    Video Card
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814241067

    cd dvd drive
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827131056

    Ram
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231145

    Case
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811133021

    I'm not so sure about the dvd drive I want something that will burn dvd/cds fairly quickly and proficient since I am a burning fiend. Will this all work together including monitor? Oh and I was thinking Windows xp for the OS. Sound Good?
     
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    Heh, I see Viewsonic screens are slowly getting bigger. 22 used to be the biggest they made. Then 24, and now 28. They haven't quite reached the 30" holy grail yet though... :)
    Bear in mind that although Viewsonic make good monitors, 28" is quite a large monitor for a resolution of 1920x1200. It's ppi is low so the style of the image will be more akin to an HDTV than a monitor - i.e. you'll have to sit a bit further back to get a crisp picture. Of course for a monitor of that size the only way to get a resolution higher than 1920x1200 is to get a 30", which will set you back well over 1000 dollars, so it's pick and choose really.
    PSU: Excellent
    CPU: Excellent
    Mobo: Excellent
    HDDs: ATA-100? I haven't owned an IDE hard drive for years. Get with the times man! Use these instead http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136113&Tpk=WD2500AAJS
    GPU: HD3870 yes, but not a Gecube. Their cards are suck. Get this one instead http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102713&Tpk=Sapphire+HD3870
    DVD: Sony don't make their own DVD burners, they just rebrand any old tat. Use something like this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827118001
    RAM: Good
    Case: Good
    OS: Wise. XP is a far more pleasant OS to use than Vista, without a doubt.


    Without the OS that sums $1850, with a $15 rebate on the PSU. What's your actual budget?
     
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  20. shwaggy

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    Thanks for the info! Ill check them out right now. My budget is 1900 bucks so far that is what I have saved. But I think I can get a couple extra hundred for OS and keyboard/mouse/speakers.

    Another Question am I going to need a sound card?

    Also, Whats OEM/Retail someone was saying that oem doesn't come with manual and I dont think I would be able to do without manual since its my first time building my own computer.
     
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