Despite reports that a Blu-ray Xbox 360 is in the works from an ASUS subsidiary, Microsoft has once again moved to deny the rumors. Microsoft had no comment when the reports hit last week, but now an official has sent an email to the popular gaming website GamePro denying the reports. "As we have stated, we have no plans to introduce a Blu-ray drive for Xbox 360. Games are what drive ...
Read full articleOriginally posted by susieqbbb:I take it you don't have a ps3 do you? No overheating issue w my first gen PS3. I guess when i spend my $$ for a first gen system, I have received what i have paid for. My blu-ray drive is still good. I even have a wii too...first gen too. No problems either.
I hate to burst your bubble but the wii and the ps3 are not as sturdy as the xbox 360 all though first edition xbox 360 consoles had the red ring of death look at sony and nintendo bad graphic processors processors fail do to overheat issues on the ps3 bad blu-ray drives on the ps3 and even the wii has had the same issues so what is different nothing all consoles will fail at some point and time.
Originally posted by susieqbbb:
I hate to burst your bubble but the wii and the ps3 are not as sturdy as the xbox 360 all though first edition xbox 360 consoles had the red ring of death look at sony and nintendo bad graphic processors processors fail do to overheat issues on the ps3 bad blu-ray drives on the ps3 and even the wii has had the same issues so what is different nothing all consoles will fail at some point and time.
Quote:Haha... speaking of "bursting bubbles".
Check this one http://www.afterdawn.com/news/archive/13770.cfm, look at the comments section-it explains a lot.
Originally posted by viny1313:No kidding! Considering the largest 360 title: Halo 3, is beaten in less than 10 hours on average. Many players report under 8. I beat it in co-op online (with 1 other friend) back in November in under 6 hours. Blu-Ray would have opened much more space for that title and added SOOO much more.
Largest library of the shortest games ;)
Originally posted by hulud86:
Who is making these rumors? There is no way the 360 could handle a Blu Ray drive. Just like Microsoft said, it's not going to happen anytime soon.
Quote:Well with all the problems i've had with the Xbox 360 (red ring of death + overheating incidents). I don't think it could handle Blu Ray.Originally posted by hulud86:
Who is making these rumors? There is no way the 360 could handle a Blu Ray drive. Just like Microsoft said, it's not going to happen anytime soon.
wut?
the 360is more than capable enough to handle it nooby*lick*. :P
susieqbbb
how uu compare 30% fail rate which has not gone down much to a brealy 5% fail rate each for the PS3/WII?
the 360 is overly locked and needs new hardware thats not broken out of the box, the BR drive IMO is what it needs to get over itself, will see if they cock it up or not.
Originally posted by Ryu77:remember ff7 on the ps1 that was shipped on 4 cd's? it didn't spoil my enjoyment that i had to change the disc every 4 or 5 days.
I was speaking to someone at work the other day and he mentioned a 3 disc game for the Xbox 360 like it was a good thing. The tonality of his statement was that of making it sound like it's such a big game, to which I couldn't help but laugh.
He then wondered why I was laughing, I then said imagine when the next Final Fantasy installment is released for the 360! Are we looking at 6 DVD-9's?
I finished off the conversation saying that at least the PS3 wont have that problem, to which he looked confused. I then said Blu-ray, thinking this should provide an answer to all of his confusion but the light of sudden understanding failed to shine upon him. He still looked confused, so I said 50GB Blu-ray dual layer (PS3) vs. 8.5GB DVD dual layer (XBox 360). He still looked confused! So I left the poor guy alone... LOL!
Originally posted by link:
In public relations, spin is a sometimes pejorative term signifying a heavily biased portrayal in one's own favor of an event or situation. While traditional public relations may also rely on creative presentation of the facts, "spin" often, though not always, implies disingenuous, deceptive and/or highly manipulative tactics. Politicians are often accused of spin by commentators and political opponents, when they produce a counter argument or position. In the modern world, most PR practitioners are discouraged to use spin because it is fundamentally counterproductive to the industry's ultimate goal of building relationships with constituents.
The techniques of "spin" include Selectively presenting facts and quotes that support one's position (cherry picking), the so-called "non-denial denial," Phrasing in a way that assumes unproven truths, euphemisms for drawing attention away from items considered distasteful, and ambiguity in public statements. Another spin technique involves careful choice of timing in the release of certain news so it can take advantage of prominent events in the news. A famous reference to this practice occurred when British Government press officer Jo Moore used the phrase It's now a very good day to get out anything we want to bury, (widely paraphrased or misquoted as "It's a good day to bury bad news"), in an email sent on September 11, 2001. The furor caused when this email was reported in the press eventually caused her to resign.
Originally posted by nobrainer:Actually, FF VII consisted of 3 CD's. It was VIII and IX that were a 4 CD compilation.
remember ff7 on the ps1 that was shipped on 4 cd's? it didn't spoil my enjoyment that i had to change the disc every 4 or 5 days.
Originally posted by nobrainer:Lot's of things in this World aren't needed. In fact video gaming in general is nowhere near considered a necessity. It is a luxury and Blu-ray is also a luxury, one that some of us can afford and those that can't afford it just keep on whinging about it!
blu-ray is kinda MEH and is not needed, this news story feels just like sony fud to keep blu-ray in the media radar because of poor sales that are flagging even more with every week that passes, with some free advertising while pointing out that the ps3 is the future because it has blu-ray, and the 360 does not, don't make me laugh its pure sony Public Relations SPIN
why does a game console require an install and patches exactly omg.......
Originally posted by nobrainer:I can assure you that the people that I have demonstrated Blu-ray to are far from brainless. In actual fact many of them are quite successful and intelligent people.
Sorry Ryu77 but that just sounds the same as the sony sales patter/rhetoric, the "oh if you dis the ps3 you obviously cant afford one" or "blu-ray is the future, don't live in the stone age" or "because its more expensive it has to be better" its just like the hard sales tactics that time share sales use, its pathetic and condescending and will only sway the brainless "keeping up with the joneses" types and kids/teenagers! They are trying to sell a lifestyle, a "wow i must be rich" as i own blu-ray. lmfao
Originally posted by nobrainer:Again, I will ask if given the choice to have media delivered on one disc or on multiple... Which would you chose? Please think of this without considering the Blu-ray format into your answer. I say that as it's already clear how you feel about Sony and the Blu-ray format. All I am after is an answer from a practicality perspective.
Hi-Def is better & i agree, as any pc gamer can tell you as we have had Hi-Def visuals for a very, very long time, its NOT a new phenomenon, and it matters little to me what media is delivered on, as long as its consumer friendly, read speeds are fast and efficient, and as cheap as possible. *edit* and durable, solid state will be the format of choice once prices drop, imho!
Originally posted by nobrainer:Nobody is stating that you will need to change discs every five minutes without Blu-ray. However, there will be more discs required. This equals more packaging and more discs that need to be pressed. Once Blu-ray manufacturing costs drop, I am confident to say that it will cost less to manufacture one Blu-ray disc vs. 6 DVD-9's. Think about today, what costs more 6 blank CD's or 1 blank DVD? Also, it is common sense that if a newer, higher capacity format is readily available... Wouldn't it make more sense to utilise it?
changing discs do not bother me as you don't have to change them every five minuets, which is what the sony bloggers are trying to make out, i care little that i have to maybe change a disc once every few days if its cheaper, faster and less controlled by DRM.
Originally posted by nobrainer:That is because piracy is higher than ever. You can not blame the production studios for wanting to protect their content. If you lived in a high crime area, would you want contents insurance for your home? I know that this scenario isn't directly comparable but you do need to consider the position of these production studios. Let's think about this for a minute and imagine a future where piracy continued to rise and studios kept losing money. Eventually will come a time where no money can be made from this industry at all. So either we will see advertisement ridden media or there will be almost nothing of quality on offer.
blu-ray is an over priced, anti-consumer, DRM loaded storage medium, that has more DRM than ANY previous media EVER.
Originally posted by nobrainer:As I said earlier... I am working in a large Audio/Visual appliance store and the reaction I am getting from customers is that Blu-ray is far from useless. So I can say with solid proof that people do care about the extra quality that Blu-ray provides.
recent sales figures show ppl don't care and unless you have a huge screen blu-ray is of no benefit over up-scaling dvd's to the average consumer because its just a few extra pixels and an extortionate price
Originally posted by nobrainer:Connecting Blu-ray is as simple as a HDMI connection. Please don't over complicate this nobrainer.
in the home blu-ray is especially pointless seems that current dvd hardware and software works with all equipment and you don't need to balance your equipment dictated to by HDCP HDMI DRM that blocks any none trusted connections forcing you to (up)downgrade all your equipment to DRM malware units.
Originally posted by link:A Cost Analysis of Windows Vista Content Protection
Device manufacturers, who are apparently building their fortunes on the back of the music industry's content without paying for the privilege (err, but didn't the consumers already pay for the discs?), would have to pay a license fee to the music business that would be split among all the involved parties according to a formula that makes the Schrodinger equation look like a bit of first-term algebra.
Originally posted by link:
This is by design: as Jack Valenti, former head of the MPAA, put it, “If you buy a DVD you have a copy. If you want a backup copy you buy another one”). It's obvious why this type of business model makes the pain of pushing content protection onto consumers so worthwhile since it practically constitutes a license to print money.
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