Yet another example of the infinite greed of the entertainment industry.

Kiss goodbye to the Zune... long live the Chipod!!
Seriously.. do you know anybody who has bought one??? I haven't managed to find a shop that has one so I can take a look.. I might have thought about buying one until today.

hahaha kiss ... nicely linked to another great example of the old, pointless and greedy.

M$ bending over for the entertainment industry again, you'd though that m$ would have learnt from the failure of vista that ppl don't want rampant anti-consumer DRM.

Originally posted by nobrainer:

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M$ bending over for the entertainment industry again, you'd though that m$ would have learnt from the failure of vista that ppl don't want rampant anti-consumer DRM.

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The only thing M$ learned from the failure of Vista was to pull the plug on Xp this June.

The ZUNE wasn't selling too well to began with. This obviously won't be good for it's future.

RIP ZUNEplayer, we barely got to know you.

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The ZUNE wasn't selling too well to began with. This obviously won't be good for it's future

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Does this mean the marketing people were not consulted ??


RIP ZUNEplayer, we barely got to know you.

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ahh what is Zune?

Is that anything like web-tv or vista? Oh, thats right Vista is selling well, except a good chunk of those "Vista" sales are actually XP. With all these great ideas, in 10, 20 years Microsoft will be what Atari is today.

As varnull said, this will be a Zune killer. Greedy media companies strike again.

so what would happen if i ripped video from my legally bought tv dvds? lemme guess, that won't work either. whatever to our right to fair-use?

WTF does MS care what I put on my Zune? Not that I have one, and I certainly wouldn't entertain the idea now! Since when is it the hardware maker's job to enforce some other company's DRM at the cost of the end user of the product? I'll stick with my iPod and Zen vision W that plays everything I throw at it!

You're witnessing history folks.
The Zune just became the LaserDisc of the new century.

Well, if you read the article a little closer it's NBC thats wanting this not Zune. Yes, MS is a money hoarding company but they are not the ones pushing for this. They just want NBC's busness. And the zune is actually a really nice device, I've had mine for 6 months now and love it. I do believe it's start to fall to the way side though. Apple just has to much of a hold on the industry for zune to compete with them. Hell, apple convinced target to pull the zune off their shelves.
Anyway, like I said NBC is the one pushing for this. And right now this is just in the negotion stage, who knows what the true out come will be.

All I have to say is good luck selling this piece of junk. I give MS 6 months before closing shop and I'm sure their Executives will be scratching their heads wondering what went wrong.

MS pushed me to far with thier DRM crap on vista, would not accept vista if you gave it to me for free, MS is gonna do it again with Zune cause they want NBC's bussines, greed with all scrupples out the window.

THIS IS THE KEY STATEMANT "Regardless of the fact that those shows, obtained from cable and satellite companies, have already been purchased by the consumer through their contract with the respective provider. NBC would like its consumers to pay twice for the same show."
This is what they all want, this is what the RIAA say's your doing when you copy one of YOUR cd's to YOUR Ipod

Originally posted by RNR1995:

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THIS IS THE KEY STATEMANT "Regardless of the fact that those shows, obtained from cable and satellite companies, have already been purchased by the consumer through their contract with the respective provider. NBC would like its consumers to pay twice for the same show."
This is what they all want, this is what the RIAA say's your doing when you copy one of YOUR cd's to YOUR Ipod

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it is and thats what they want, to be paid every time you move your own media.

Sony BMG's chief anti-piracy lawyer: "Copying" music you own is "stealing"

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"When an individual makes a copy of a song for himself, I suppose we can say he stole a song." Making "a copy" of a purchased song is just "a nice way of saying 'steals just one copy'," she said.

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iPod tax: UK music biz open to format shifting... for a fee

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Early this year, the BPI again said all the right things about format shifting, but we noted that the Association of Independent Music was making noises; apparently, the group wanted to get paid whenever music was transferred from a CD to a portable device.

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@ FredBun

btw vista DRM was forced onto m$ by the MPAA using the DMCA

Why Microsoft Sold Out Consumers in Vista

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Today, the PC industry needs Hollywood more than Hollywood needs the PC. Most consumers rely on traditional consumer electronics devices to view DVDs and TV content, but companies like Microsoft are betting on the converged digital home and desperately want a bigger piece of the media device market. Because of the DMCA, Microsoft has to get permission to build devices compatible with Hollywood's DRMed content. So when Hollywood demanded that Microsoft lard Vista with restrictions to access high-def DVD and digital cable content, the software giant was in a weak bargaining position.

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the only thing that will stop these anti-consumer pigs is to boycott the RIAA, BPI, IFPI, MPAA ect, well the companies in my sig!

Great info
thank you

And I actually was considering getting a Zune, I definately wont be getting one now. Screw you Microsoft, take your DRM infested Zune and shove it up your arse!!

nobrainer, btw vista DRM was forced onto m$ by the MPAA using the DMCA.

I cannot argue about this because I do not know all the specifics, I also am no where near tech savvy, not even close, I read a lot and try to understand things best I can, many times it's still very difficult to interpet computer language, e.g. many people complain about vista, from what I read in many sites and forums excluding AD, at AD members protest more than most cause AD personel know more than most, but I would say that from what I read 98% that complain of vista complain about all the other issues other than the drm issue of vista, sure I hate most things about vista but to me the number one complaint is the drm issue.

I do not consider myself a pirate, even though the law would call me one cause I will not let anybody stop me from making a copy of something I already bought as a back up,I do not sell it, nor lend it outside my household, some that have kids might understand, I got tired having my kids ruin my store bought dvd's and cd's, got smart and made back-up's, so kids if you want to play I dont give a damn how I handle Dad's stuff do it with my copy.

So than I learned that with vista you cant make a copy anymore, oh I'm sure all the geeks out there know how to bypass it no matter what they are using, except I'm not a geek, I don't know how, so it's xp for me till the end.

And as far as M$ bieng forced, were they forced to accept drm by law, or were they afraid of the big guns of the music and movie moguls, because if it's the ladder, than I say again, greed, no scrupples, and most of all, NO BALLS.